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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 17 2013 20:09 GMT
#621
The StarsWar League cast is coming up soon, SKT1 vs. AG, WE vs. iG!

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16rp7p/in_3_hours_the_gigabyte_starswar_resumes_skt1_vs/
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 20:14:53
January 17 2013 20:12 GMT
#622
On January 18 2013 05:08 OutlaW- wrote:
It's easy to win lanes (and games) if you're better than your opponents. Like, he rewards skill. People who can't play him eventually gave up and people who could rock big win rates. I don't think Riot should be balancing around soloq winrates unless something is inherently broken (like Eve)


eve is actually remarkably similar to ezrael in that respect, tons of people that abused huge winrates on her that are strikingly similar to ezrael. You may just have a champion bias. Eve boasts about 5% higher winrates across the boards and got nerfed way way way harder than ezrael so I dont see anything out of line
I come in for the scraps
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 17 2013 20:12 GMT
#623
When did Orb switch to LoL, Diamond?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
January 17 2013 20:12 GMT
#624
On January 18 2013 05:12 AsnSensation wrote:
When did Orb switch to LoL, Diamond?

Not long after the sc2 community pitchforked him out of it lol.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 17 2013 20:15 GMT
#625
On January 18 2013 05:12 AsnSensation wrote:
When did Orb switch to LoL, Diamond?


Isn't it just a combination of him playing LoL for a long time and having worked with ESV rather than a complete switch?
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 17 2013 20:18 GMT
#626
I don't know, I always assumed he still continued with sc2 evena fter the n*word incident but I stop following the sc2 scene over a year ago xD, just glanced over the reddit thread and was surprised if that's the same guy.

also have my upvote!
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
January 17 2013 20:18 GMT
#627
On January 18 2013 05:15 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 05:12 AsnSensation wrote:
When did Orb switch to LoL, Diamond?


Isn't it just a combination of him playing LoL for a long time and having worked with ESV rather than a complete switch?

Pretty much, similar situation for DoA and OGN.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 17 2013 20:20 GMT
#628
On January 18 2013 05:15 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 05:12 AsnSensation wrote:
When did Orb switch to LoL, Diamond?


Isn't it just a combination of him playing LoL for a long time and having worked with ESV rather than a complete switch?


^ this. We just haven't had much for SC2 recently until tournament season gets rolling again. From my understanding he will be doing both now.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
January 17 2013 20:22 GMT
#629
Remember Ezreal's position early last year was "good poke + escape but terrible late-game." Doublelift was the only Ezreal player, he liked him because he believed Ez passive actually made his late-game strong and everyone overlooked it. It's good to see them trying to make him fit the "good poke and escape but lower team-fight damage" niche instead of having straight up everything.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 17 2013 20:25 GMT
#630
Ezreal remains exhibit A in the "don't assume pros know what they're talking about" case.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
January 17 2013 20:29 GMT
#631
Progamers play things they feel comfortable with/know how to play, not necessarily what is the best to play.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 17 2013 20:32 GMT
#632
On January 18 2013 05:25 Seuss wrote:
Ezreal remains exhibit A in the "don't assume pros know what they're talking about" case.

Him being one of the worst ADs was also a highly popular opinion on this board as well for some time. Though I can be hipster and say that I was playing Ez before the wave of popularity.

He'll never be a truly bad champion, and he never was. Even with the lower auto damage, the mechanics of his Q alone, alongside having E, make him at least workable. Hell, nowadays he can just not auto at all, build IBG, and completely remove a melee champ from a fight through straight kiting.
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 17 2013 20:34 GMT
#633
On January 18 2013 05:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 05:08 OutlaW- wrote:
It's easy to win lanes (and games) if you're better than your opponents. Like, he rewards skill. People who can't play him eventually gave up and people who could rock big win rates. I don't think Riot should be balancing around soloq winrates unless something is inherently broken (like Eve)


eve is actually remarkably similar to ezrael in that respect, tons of people that abused huge winrates on her that are strikingly similar to ezrael. You may just have a champion bias. Eve boasts about 5% higher winrates across the boards and got nerfed way way way harder than ezrael so I dont see anything out of line


A champion that forces every lane to get pink wards unless they want to die to ganks 24/7.How is that similar to an ad carry with good escape?

And your only counter to her roaming can be easily killed by the enemy with their own pinks.She needed the nerfs for sure.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 17 2013 20:34 GMT
#634
he got his mana costs fixed, which can easily make a champion go from shit to good
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 17 2013 20:35 GMT
#635
On January 18 2013 05:34 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 05:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On January 18 2013 05:08 OutlaW- wrote:
It's easy to win lanes (and games) if you're better than your opponents. Like, he rewards skill. People who can't play him eventually gave up and people who could rock big win rates. I don't think Riot should be balancing around soloq winrates unless something is inherently broken (like Eve)


eve is actually remarkably similar to ezrael in that respect, tons of people that abused huge winrates on her that are strikingly similar to ezrael. You may just have a champion bias. Eve boasts about 5% higher winrates across the boards and got nerfed way way way harder than ezrael so I dont see anything out of line


A champion that forces every lane to get pink wards unless they want to die to ganks 24/7.How is that similar to an ad carry with good escape?

And your only counter to her roaming can be easily killed by the enemy with their own pinks.She needed the nerfs for sure.


you're living in your own little world, no one said anything even close to that. I said in terms of players abusing 1 champ to high elo, ezrael and evelynn are a few that top the list as having many players that play them with absurd winrates.
I come in for the scraps
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 17 2013 20:37 GMT
#636
On January 18 2013 05:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
he got his mana costs fixed, which can easily make a champion go from shit to good

W down by 10 and R down by 50 helps, but it doesn't change that much. People realizing how strong W's AS debuff was got them playing him, and then suddenly they noticed that he can poke and never get caught and here we are.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 20:43:05
January 17 2013 20:39 GMT
#637
On January 18 2013 05:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
he got his mana costs fixed, which can easily make a champion go from shit to good

Ezreal was a staple in Asian play long before the mana cost buff.

Ezreal was popular among Chinese ADs at the time of IEM Guangzhou. Western viewers thought they were crazy.

As it turns out, Chinese AD play is more or less unmatched anywhere else in the world at this point.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 17 2013 20:41 GMT
#638
On January 18 2013 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 05:34 nafta wrote:
On January 18 2013 05:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On January 18 2013 05:08 OutlaW- wrote:
It's easy to win lanes (and games) if you're better than your opponents. Like, he rewards skill. People who can't play him eventually gave up and people who could rock big win rates. I don't think Riot should be balancing around soloq winrates unless something is inherently broken (like Eve)


eve is actually remarkably similar to ezrael in that respect, tons of people that abused huge winrates on her that are strikingly similar to ezrael. You may just have a champion bias. Eve boasts about 5% higher winrates across the boards and got nerfed way way way harder than ezrael so I dont see anything out of line


A champion that forces every lane to get pink wards unless they want to die to ganks 24/7.How is that similar to an ad carry with good escape?

And your only counter to her roaming can be easily killed by the enemy with their own pinks.She needed the nerfs for sure.


you're living in your own little world, no one said anything even close to that. I said in terms of players abusing 1 champ to high elo, ezrael and evelynn are a few that top the list as having many players that play them with absurd winrates.


Yes,yes my bad thar.English skills too poor QQQQQQQQQQ.

VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 17 2013 20:42 GMT
#639
On January 18 2013 05:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 05:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
he got his mana costs fixed, which can easily make a champion go from shit to good

Ezreal was a staple in Asian play long before the mana cost buff.


asian play wasnt very good at that time, so doesnt mean much. A combination of the mana costs and aggressive supports becoming much stronger, namely taric, brought ezrael into the spotlight. You guys can deny it and be hipsters or whatever, but the fact is that ezrael/sona was the only "okish" lane before, and he became much better once taric/leona became good picks.

The synergy on ez's ult and taric's new ult is stupidly efficient and will always be a good combo
I come in for the scraps
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 17 2013 20:43 GMT
#640
On January 18 2013 05:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
he got his mana costs fixed, which can easily make a champion go from shit to good


likewise, gragas mana costs made him god -> shit tier
and mana is the reason rumble and riven will always be too good
HMMMMM
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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