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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14208 Posts
January 14 2013 23:43 GMT
#8501
On January 15 2013 08:19 GettingIt wrote:
So like I started playing adc a lot as graves and MF. However I have no idea when to get blade of the ruined king, or should I not get it at all. what do u guys think?

You shouldn't get it on either. Bortk is best when its your only damage item anything more then that and a thirster is better.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
January 14 2013 23:44 GMT
#8502
Getting better at this is game feels so hard. I've try harding at 1200 ELO and i'm still stuck after 180 games.

In starcraft i could analyze my mistakes and see the improvement in my games and my ranking really fast. But in League feels like the edge you get for thinking about the game is really really small against people who is just smashing buttons and doing random stuff.

Maybe league is not the best game for the try hard aproach and i should just play it for fun with my friends or maybe i just suck at non-rts games lol.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
January 14 2013 23:45 GMT
#8503
On January 15 2013 08:44 Yagami wrote:
Getting better at this is game feels so hard. I've try harding at 1200 ELO and i'm still stuck after 180 games.

In starcraft i could analyze my mistakes and see the improvement in my games and my ranking really fast. But in League feels like the edge you get for thinking about the game is really really small against people who is just smashing buttons and doing random stuff.

Maybe league is not the best game for the try hard aproach and i should just play it for fun with my friends or maybe i just suck at non-rts games lol.

its just something you have to work at a ton, don't focus on trying to do everything better at the same time but rather pick one area of your gameplay that needs improvement and ground out 50+ games with 1-2 champs focusing on just that aspect of your play. then move to the next thing and repeat
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
January 14 2013 23:47 GMT
#8504
On January 15 2013 08:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright, here it is, ladies and gentlemen. Do with it as you will.

If it gets downvoted into oblivion or removed by mods, so be it.

Either way, we'll be on later casting up a storm!

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16ky3l/in_5_12_hours_after_hours_gaming_league_ahgl_week/

Gave you a what time is it for me? link, won't be able to watch it myself since I have work tomorrow, but good luck.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 14 2013 23:49 GMT
#8505
On January 15 2013 08:44 Yagami wrote:
Getting better at this is game feels so hard. I've try harding at 1200 ELO and i'm still stuck after 180 games.

In starcraft i could analyze my mistakes and see the improvement in my games and my ranking really fast. But in League feels like the edge you get for thinking about the game is really really small against people who is just smashing buttons and doing random stuff.

Maybe league is not the best game for the try hard aproach and i should just play it for fun with my friends or maybe i just suck at non-rts games lol.


There's plenty of room for try-harding in LoL, it's just more conceptual unless you're at the top or bottom.

The difficulty comes from needing to look at the big picture and understand your place in it, while also obsessing over the small details that make or break plays and decisions. It's not easy, but if thinking is your thing you can improve.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 14 2013 23:51 GMT
#8506
On January 15 2013 08:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright, here it is, ladies and gentlemen. Do with it as you will.

If it gets downvoted into oblivion or removed by mods, so be it.

Either way, we'll be on later casting up a storm!

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16ky3l/in_5_12_hours_after_hours_gaming_league_ahgl_week/


I support our Casting Golems!

Upvote away GD friends!
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 14 2013 23:52 GMT
#8507
9PM is 6 am for me so I cant watch but have my upvote!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 15 2013 00:06 GMT
#8508
bottom of the front page, nawt bad.

Hope you Golems do a superb job. :>
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 15 2013 00:10 GMT
#8509
On January 15 2013 09:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
bottom of the front page, nawt bad.

Hope you Golems do a superb job. :>

Oh shits, front page!
Thanks guise. Here's hoping we get ALL TEH VIEWARS
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 15 2013 00:18 GMT
#8510
On January 15 2013 08:43 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 08:19 GettingIt wrote:
So like I started playing adc a lot as graves and MF. However I have no idea when to get blade of the ruined king, or should I not get it at all. what do u guys think?

You shouldn't get it on either. Bortk is best when its your only damage item anything more then that and a thirster is better.

I didn't realize until just recently that Botrk only affected a percent of your current life.

On January 15 2013 08:44 Yagami wrote:
Getting better at this is game feels so hard. I've try harding at 1200 ELO and i'm still stuck after 180 games.

In starcraft i could analyze my mistakes and see the improvement in my games and my ranking really fast. But in League feels like the edge you get for thinking about the game is really really small against people who is just smashing buttons and doing random stuff.

Maybe league is not the best game for the try hard aproach and i should just play it for fun with my friends or maybe i just suck at non-rts games lol.

Yeah. I'm not sure you can say the game isn't tryhard. I feel there's a lot of effort to put in the game and room for outplaying. It's just you can tryhard and go 0-0 since the game rewards defensiveness so much but if your bot lane goes 0-9 combined that's 2000 gold in the hands of your enemy AD and Support, and 1000 from dragon, 650 from the tower that go to the enemy team. Now all those little advantages you make every game are undercut by action happening over the rest of the map.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 00:21:35
January 15 2013 00:19 GMT
#8511
On January 15 2013 08:44 Yagami wrote:
Getting better at this is game feels so hard. I've try harding at 1200 ELO and i'm still stuck after 180 games.

In starcraft i could analyze my mistakes and see the improvement in my games and my ranking really fast. But in League feels like the edge you get for thinking about the game is really really small against people who is just smashing buttons and doing random stuff.

Maybe league is not the best game for the try hard aproach and i should just play it for fun with my friends or maybe i just suck at non-rts games lol.

My mechanics suck but "thinking about the game" is how I get an edge in most of my lanes. Playing unpopular champions (Sivir, Viktor, Swain, Wukong) helps, but knowing them well and exploiting whatever edge trick/edge I can think of generally compensate for my bad cs-ing (Wukong doesn't have the best animation ever and spends his mana damn fast if you ever want to "push", I always end up berating myself for my poor cs at the end of a game).
I'm pretty confident letting stuff like Malphite, Kha'Zix, or Riven open when I intend to play him because of my ability to outplay them. It can only work so well until a certain point (when either the mechanic gap is too great or they handle their champ well enough that they don't fall for bad trades or baits/all-ins), but till then it gives you room to improve the rest.

Even when ahead/fed, you can always ask you "What could I have done better?", as in "I can stay here and farm this wave because I'm too strong for this enemy, but what if others come? Could I push x tower if we tried to force it? Am I safe? If not, when could I have gotten more wards, and where could they be placed?". I find it easy to become complacent once you're ahead, and it's dangerous especially if their team scale better than yours, so using those opportunities to get experience in "how to snowball an advantage" or just overall solid play, by identifying and removing greediness/laziness is another way to improve that'll also benefit your play when even or behind. There's also less pressure since you're ahead so you can concentrate more on that.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
January 15 2013 00:25 GMT
#8512
Currently on the stream side bar.
League of Legends
Destiny
itmeJP
-orb-

T.T
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 15 2013 00:25 GMT
#8513
On January 15 2013 08:44 Yagami wrote:
Getting better at this is game feels so hard. I've try harding at 1200 ELO and i'm still stuck after 180 games.

In starcraft i could analyze my mistakes and see the improvement in my games and my ranking really fast. But in League feels like the edge you get for thinking about the game is really really small against people who is just smashing buttons and doing random stuff.

Maybe league is not the best game for the try hard aproach and i should just play it for fun with my friends or maybe i just suck at non-rts games lol.

You just need to be able to outlane people who "just smashes buttons". It's super easy.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 00:26:43
January 15 2013 00:25 GMT
#8514
On January 15 2013 08:44 Yagami wrote:
Getting better at this is game feels so hard. I've try harding at 1200 ELO and i'm still stuck after 180 games.

In starcraft i could analyze my mistakes and see the improvement in my games and my ranking really fast. But in League feels like the edge you get for thinking about the game is really really small against people who is just smashing buttons and doing random stuff.

Maybe league is not the best game for the try hard aproach and i should just play it for fun with my friends or maybe i just suck at non-rts games lol.

I used to be really bad at this game. Like, I'm not even joking. I'm still bad, yet somehow people take what I write seriously. Hm.

Anyway, I think you need to slow down and break up everything in LoL to figure out what you're doing wrong. Remember the Day[9] saying "Probes and Pylons"? I remember in one daily how he said you shouldn't rush and try to suddenly get good at everything. You'll only lose focus and start being bad/mediocre at everything instead.

Take each game/set of games at a time and focus on something specific. Your last hitting. The ability to split attention between the minion wave/harassing/minimap. Understanding your cooldowns (for spell dependant champions). Take one thing at a time.

I remember when my mind was blown when I realised when playing Annie and I Flash-Tibbers-Unload-Everything that I could actually walk away and let the rest of my team tank damage while I waited for my CDs before re-engaging.It sounds so silly now, but I literally didn't realise how to manage my CDs. Or when I realised I could spend the time while waiting for minions to get low to last hit them harassing my opponent. Or realising how to set up easy skillshots by watching how my opponent last hits and timing skillshots for when I auto-last-hit a minion so it's like it came out of no where.

Also, if you have a high elo friend I recommend you 1v1 them. 1v1'ing people and having them tell me what I was doing wrong really helped me. Some of the things they said I didn't even know I was doing wrong.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 15 2013 00:26 GMT
#8515
LoL IS an RTS thou.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
January 15 2013 00:26 GMT
#8516
Let's not have the stream discussion here again
Moderatorgold coin
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 15 2013 00:27 GMT
#8517
On January 15 2013 09:25 Parametric wrote:
Currently on the stream side bar.
League of Legends
Destiny
itmeJP
-orb-

T.T


I'll work on expanding our Live Streamers from TL.

Heartbeattt and ecco are on the top of the list. I'll be working with them when they're home.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 00:31:11
January 15 2013 00:28 GMT
#8518
I need some 3v3 comps that has an easy char to play; one of my friends is not very good. Right now we have Kata, Urgot and Taric / Kennen, Nunu, Lee Sin. What are the best comps for 3v3 right now I hardly play it at all.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 00:36:05
January 15 2013 00:31 GMT
#8519
Hey MoonBear got promoted. congratz. Are you gonna get a volibear icon? :S. Or did you get promoted a while back and I didn't realize cause of your alt? Im confused now.
2809-8732-2116/ Fighting/ Mienfoo, Tyrogue, Sawk
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 15 2013 00:37 GMT
#8520
Banlings don't get custom icons. They get the red hammer. So no Volibear for Moon.
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