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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 21:11:17
December 29 2012 21:11 GMT
#4041
On December 30 2012 05:15 Roffles wrote:
I know the true definition of toxic.

Is this where we star talking about Pokemon again?

Toxic OP.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 29 2012 21:11 GMT
#4042
On December 30 2012 06:01 AsnSensation wrote:
scarra such a pussy, gives up on the 24 stream after only 15hours


Did he fail at wards?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 29 2012 21:11 GMT
#4043
He also felt his play and commentary weren't up to his usual standards. Guess he doesn't have that Froggen stamina.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 29 2012 21:11 GMT
#4044
On December 30 2012 06:11 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 05:15 Roffles wrote:
I know the true definition of toxic.

Is this where we star talking about Pokemon again?

Toxic OP.


Toxic is toxic. Mind=blown.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 29 2012 21:19 GMT
#4045
if some1 is willing to do so, I would like to have some advice on how to improve, since atm i've dropped abt 200 elo, and am pretty confident it's because i'm playing significantly worse for some reason. I want to try to improve, but I can't figure out what I need to do to get better.

here's a link to a bunch of my recent replays:
http://www54.zippyshare.com/v/40407973/file.html
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 21:40:01
December 29 2012 21:38 GMT
#4046
On December 30 2012 06:11 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 05:15 Roffles wrote:
I know the true definition of toxic.

Is this where we star talking about Pokemon again?

Toxic OP.

toxic not op, l2counter with steel
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
December 29 2012 21:44 GMT
#4047
On December 30 2012 06:11 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 06:11 Gahlo wrote:
On December 30 2012 05:15 Roffles wrote:
I know the true definition of toxic.

Is this where we star talking about Pokemon again?

Toxic OP.


Toxic is toxic. Mind=blown.


I take it you haven't met Namedrop
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 21:47:02
December 29 2012 21:44 GMT
#4048
this better not be a keylogger barbsq

any reccomended games?
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 21:52:50
December 29 2012 21:49 GMT
#4049
On December 30 2012 06:38 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 06:11 Gahlo wrote:
On December 30 2012 05:15 Roffles wrote:
I know the true definition of toxic.

Is this where we star talking about Pokemon again?

Toxic OP.

toxic not op, l2counter with steel

Yeah, not counting NFE, all 12 of them.

EDIT: # is wrong, looked at a crappy list.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 22:05:04
December 29 2012 21:49 GMT
#4050
I told Scarra that always warding enemy wraith brush as mid is very easily exploited, he tells me he literally only warded mid side brushes yesterday and he puts thought into where wards should go. Then I watch his VOD of the fiddle game where he places wards over the top side mid ramp on blue side where fiddle never stood on once.

From a jungler's perspective, if I see where you ward, that ward is pretty much useless. I will never come through there to gank unless there's a fight where both sides have committed. If there are multiple wards that make it so that it's impossible for me to gank unless seen, for example if warding purple wraith and top tri brush as blue side, then I will immediately back and get as many pinks as I need to give you enough vision so that you think you're safe, or no vision at all. This is something a surprising % of junglers at high elo do not pay enough attention to, and pretty much no solos have awareness of. But in 5s even bad teams will communicate effectively so that you can rarely play mind games vs. decent teams.

What I mean by mind games is basically using the information that they don't know you know where their wards are in order to gank deceptively. This should be pretty much half the focus in laning game for any jungler. The other half is using the knowledge of where the enemy jungler is to create favorable situations for your team, as in good countergank opportunities, 2v1s, 3v2s, 2v2s you can win, etc. Knowing where the enemy jungler is entirely dependent on experience.

To add to that, there are basically three mistakes a jungler can make when ganking:

1, That you don't have perfect information of wards, which occurs at all elos, and is dependent on map awareness and communication.

2. That you misjudge an unfavorable fight to be favorable. For example ganking an enemy top 2 lvls higher than your top and you, and getting killed or double killed. This occurs less the higher the elo. There are also other unforeseeable factors such as mechanical errors during the fight.

3. That you get counterganked. I'd like to say this actually occurs more at high elo because junglers are smarter, but a good jungler will never get counterganked effectively. This is also the most complicated mistake, and requires both junglers to have a basic knowledge of routes and timers.

TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 29 2012 21:52 GMT
#4051
On December 30 2012 06:38 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 06:11 Gahlo wrote:
On December 30 2012 05:15 Roffles wrote:
I know the true definition of toxic.

Is this where we star talking about Pokemon again?

Toxic OP.

toxic not op, l2counter with steel

which leads us to the fact that ferrothorn is bullshit
Cackle™
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 29 2012 21:53 GMT
#4052
On December 30 2012 06:52 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 06:38 101toss wrote:
On December 30 2012 06:11 Gahlo wrote:
On December 30 2012 05:15 Roffles wrote:
I know the true definition of toxic.

Is this where we star talking about Pokemon again?

Toxic OP.

toxic not op, l2counter with steel

which leads us to the fact that ferrothorn is bullshit

KEEL IT WITH FAHR!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 29 2012 21:54 GMT
#4053
If only it was that simple zz
Cackle™
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 29 2012 22:22 GMT
#4054
On December 30 2012 05:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
Man, Ali could use a new model haha.

I dont wanna see 10ft tall skinny as fuck preteen Alistar.
His model is fine
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
December 29 2012 22:46 GMT
#4055
I think what a lot of people don't get is that warding your lane doesn't just keep you safe, it helps your entire team.

Say you're blue team top lane, and you ward tri-bush. The moment the enemy jungler appears there, your bot lane knows he isn't anywhere bot and they can go aggressive without fear. I hate being forced to play passive because I never know where the jungler is because no one else is warding.
3.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 22:57:41
December 29 2012 22:57 GMT
#4056
On December 30 2012 07:22 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 05:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
Man, Ali could use a new model haha.

I dont wanna see 10ft tall skinny as fuck preteen Alistar.
His model is fine

It's fine but it's starting to show its age, it will happen eventually whether you want it to or not haha.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 29 2012 22:59 GMT
#4057
On December 30 2012 07:46 Inschato wrote:
I think what a lot of people don't get is that warding your lane doesn't just keep you safe, it helps your entire team.

Say you're blue team top lane, and you ward tri-bush. The moment the enemy jungler appears there, your bot lane knows he isn't anywhere bot and they can go aggressive without fear. I hate being forced to play passive because I never know where the jungler is because no one else is warding.


I know that feel
Carrilord has arrived.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 29 2012 23:08 GMT
#4058
On December 30 2012 06:01 AsnSensation wrote:
scarra such a pussy, gives up on the 24 stream after only 15hours

Watch Cyanide instead. He pledged to play until he drops (dead).
Off-season = best season
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 23:16:06
December 29 2012 23:15 GMT
#4059
On December 30 2012 07:59 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 07:46 Inschato wrote:
I think what a lot of people don't get is that warding your lane doesn't just keep you safe, it helps your entire team.

Say you're blue team top lane, and you ward tri-bush. The moment the enemy jungler appears there, your bot lane knows he isn't anywhere bot and they can go aggressive without fear. I hate being forced to play passive because I never know where the jungler is because no one else is warding.


I know that feel


And then they tell me I'm too tryhard since im asking them to ward ._.

Edit: btw, since we have no topic, what builds have you guys been trying out on vi? vi burst is so retarded lol.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
December 29 2012 23:20 GMT
#4060
On December 30 2012 06:19 barbsq wrote:
if some1 is willing to do so, I would like to have some advice on how to improve, since atm i've dropped abt 200 elo, and am pretty confident it's because i'm playing significantly worse for some reason. I want to try to improve, but I can't figure out what I need to do to get better.

here's a link to a bunch of my recent replays:
http://www54.zippyshare.com/v/40407973/file.html

Admitting you lost elo because of your own play and asking for help.... You are already 10 times better than me.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
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