• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:45
CEST 02:45
KST 09:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?129Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!46
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism SC4ALL: II Winner will earn a spot at HSC 30! SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 7/8
Tourneys
KSL Week #92 IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly 2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This
Brood War
General
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Broodwar Prediction Market Terran or Protoss
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion!
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9780 users

[Patch 1.0.0.153: Preseason Balance Update 1] GD - Page 126

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 124 125 126 127 128 451 Next
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
December 23 2012 05:59 GMT
#2501
Longshot but... would any NA diamond rated players here be willing to queue unranked draft games with me? I really want to just improve by playing people much better than myself. if so, just let me know here, PM, or add me on bigdongstudios. i'd appreciate it so much, really.
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 06:01:47
December 23 2012 06:00 GMT
#2502
The idea of Guise on supports as a "laning" item is flawed not because of the item being bad for supports, but because of the idea that a support will get to 1500 gold during a relevant part of laning phase without skimping on something else critical. It takes you 13 minutes to get to Guise on passive gp10+runes+masteries (longer if you ditch either) and don't buy anything else. That's much later if you get boots, potions, and wards like you normally have to do. Even if laning phase isn't over by 15-20 minutes (it should be), the outcome of the lane will typically already be decided.

"Laning" items for a support are things in the 500-1k range. Obviously you will get the Guise faster if your lane gets a kill or an objective--but by and large you should be able to leverage an advantage with a kill lead regardless, irrespective of whether you buy Guise.
Moderator
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 23 2012 06:02 GMT
#2503
Anyone notice Panth's ult dealing dmg a little bit late this patch? Feels like there's a delay from when I fall down and do damage.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 23 2012 06:04 GMT
#2504
On December 23 2012 15:02 HazMat wrote:
Anyone notice Panth's ult dealing dmg a little bit late this patch? Feels like there's a delay from when I fall down and do damage.


Hasn't it always been like that?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 23 2012 06:09 GMT
#2505
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 23 2012 06:11 GMT
#2506
Panth's animation has always felt badly timed. He like appears, the explosion happens a bit later, then your health goes down.

As for riot tracking accounts, I've heard them say that if they permaban you and they link your new account to your old one (via IP, friends, etc), they put your new account on the "fast track" to getting perma'd again (so it normally takes ~8 bans to get a perma, the "fast track" means it takes ~3)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 23 2012 06:12 GMT
#2507
On December 23 2012 15:09 Kenpachi wrote:
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?


Pretty sure the real problem is that he has almost 0 ganking potential pre-6.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
December 23 2012 06:12 GMT
#2508
On December 23 2012 15:09 Kenpachi wrote:
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?


Nope. Not especially anyways. He basically needs level 6, a sunfire and he's pretty much good til LW's start coming out.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
December 23 2012 06:15 GMT
#2509
On December 23 2012 15:12 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:09 Kenpachi wrote:
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?


Nope. Not especially anyways. He basically needs level 6, a sunfire and he's pretty much good til LW's start coming out.


Malphite jungle sucks at ganking pre-6, is very ult dependent post 6, and is pretty slow.

All of this is offset by the fact that good malphite ults are one of the best engages in the game and malphite can single handedly win teamfights by ulting well.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 23 2012 06:16 GMT
#2510
On December 23 2012 15:12 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:09 Kenpachi wrote:
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?


Pretty sure the real problem is that he has almost 0 ganking potential pre-6.

Q is actually better than what a lot of junglers have.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 23 2012 06:18 GMT
#2511
Malph's always relevant if he manages to ult key people then E the AD carry.

On December 23 2012 15:02 HazMat wrote:
Anyone notice Panth's ult dealing dmg a little bit late this patch? Feels like there's a delay from when I fall down and do damage.

I dunno, I always queue up W when ulting so I never do damage anyway. No idea if that's intended though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 23 2012 06:23 GMT
#2512
On December 23 2012 15:16 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:12 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:09 Kenpachi wrote:
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?


Pretty sure the real problem is that he has almost 0 ganking potential pre-6.

Q is actually better than what a lot of junglers have.


Better than Master Yi probably.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 23 2012 06:36 GMT
#2513
On December 23 2012 15:02 HazMat wrote:
Anyone notice Panth's ult dealing dmg a little bit late this patch? Feels like there's a delay from when I fall down and do damage.

Thats been the case for me ever since I have played pantheon. It was supposed to happen right when he landed?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 06:40:28
December 23 2012 06:39 GMT
#2514
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15a9pu/getting_nicki_singer_of_the_vi_theme_and_her_band/

called it

EDIT: Three days EXACTLY.
:3
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 23 2012 06:59 GMT
#2515
<style>body { background: url('http://i.imgur.com/ZSY3u.gif') repeat; }</style> hey yall any thoughts on kass he is still really storng vsing some popular picks like tf
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
December 23 2012 07:02 GMT
#2516
On December 23 2012 15:59 jaybrundage wrote:
<style>body { background: url('http://i.imgur.com/ZSY3u.gif') repeat; }</style> hey yall any thoughts on kass he is still really storng vsing some popular picks like tf

Nice try at the spinning tank gif. No cigar though.

Kassadin still strong as an assassin, just his laning phase is a problem. Silence is nice to stop TF ports, and your ult is good for chasing and executing. Can always go Uta build too.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 23 2012 07:02 GMT
#2517
Situational. Probably higher effectiveness in solo queue because people don't pick very cognizant of him and you can sneak in a good matchup. In competitive play, lane arrangements are too flexible at the moment--even if you have a good matchup vs. their AP, it's too easy to get matched into a lane swap (e.g. AD mid) or 1v2, and just get crushed because of how badly Kassadin fairs in either situation.
Moderator
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
December 23 2012 07:04 GMT
#2518
scarra losing lane to 1goal and 1dream; the high elo only kassadin player as morde l0l
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 07:37:47
December 23 2012 07:36 GMT
#2519
On December 23 2012 14:59 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 14:48 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 23 2012 14:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
we were just having a discussion in LP: why would someone lie about their elo? this happens 100% and it just baffles me, why would you ever do it. even if it weren't visible I wouldn't really get it


Bigger e-penis ofc. I was unfortunate enough to play with a guy twice who claimed to be 2k elo smurfing in ranked.... let's just say I can tell he is nowherer near 2k elo.

in my experience, the vast majority of times when someone tells you they're a high elo smurf, they're not. if the person really is a high elo smurf chances are they'll just wreck face w/out having to tell everyone about it.

I'll usually only say something to get people to stop whining at CS / early game.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 07:47:52
December 23 2012 07:45 GMT
#2520
God why is this game so hard.....

+ Show Spoiler +
But np Mordekaiser and Poppy OP. Carried our 1-10 Ezreal and 0-7 Sona.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Prev 1 124 125 126 127 128 451 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
22:30
Best Games of GSTL
PiGStarcraft560
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft560
ViBE152
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 42
Dota 2
monkeys_forever688
NeuroSwarm143
canceldota111
League of Legends
Doublelift4603
Counter-Strike
fl0m2281
taco 278
minikerr37
Other Games
summit1g7804
shahzam496
JimRising 389
XaKoH 151
C9.Mang0128
PPMD32
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV20
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 105
• EnkiAlexander 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22336
Other Games
• imaqtpie834
• Shiphtur132
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
9h 15m
WardiTV Invitational
10h 15m
Cure vs Zoun
SHIN vs Classic
ByuN vs MaxPax
Percival vs YoungYakov
AI Arena Tournament
16h 15m
OSC
19h 45m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 9h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 10h
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
1d 14h
Spirit vs Mixu
Clem vs TBD
RSL Revival
1d 15h
Serral vs Rogue
BlizzCon
1d 17h
IdrA vs MC
Replay Cast
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.