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Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
December 23 2012 05:59 GMT
#2501
Longshot but... would any NA diamond rated players here be willing to queue unranked draft games with me? I really want to just improve by playing people much better than myself. if so, just let me know here, PM, or add me on bigdongstudios. i'd appreciate it so much, really.
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 06:01:47
December 23 2012 06:00 GMT
#2502
The idea of Guise on supports as a "laning" item is flawed not because of the item being bad for supports, but because of the idea that a support will get to 1500 gold during a relevant part of laning phase without skimping on something else critical. It takes you 13 minutes to get to Guise on passive gp10+runes+masteries (longer if you ditch either) and don't buy anything else. That's much later if you get boots, potions, and wards like you normally have to do. Even if laning phase isn't over by 15-20 minutes (it should be), the outcome of the lane will typically already be decided.

"Laning" items for a support are things in the 500-1k range. Obviously you will get the Guise faster if your lane gets a kill or an objective--but by and large you should be able to leverage an advantage with a kill lead regardless, irrespective of whether you buy Guise.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 23 2012 06:02 GMT
#2503
Anyone notice Panth's ult dealing dmg a little bit late this patch? Feels like there's a delay from when I fall down and do damage.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 23 2012 06:04 GMT
#2504
On December 23 2012 15:02 HazMat wrote:
Anyone notice Panth's ult dealing dmg a little bit late this patch? Feels like there's a delay from when I fall down and do damage.


Hasn't it always been like that?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 23 2012 06:09 GMT
#2505
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 23 2012 06:11 GMT
#2506
Panth's animation has always felt badly timed. He like appears, the explosion happens a bit later, then your health goes down.

As for riot tracking accounts, I've heard them say that if they permaban you and they link your new account to your old one (via IP, friends, etc), they put your new account on the "fast track" to getting perma'd again (so it normally takes ~8 bans to get a perma, the "fast track" means it takes ~3)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 23 2012 06:12 GMT
#2507
On December 23 2012 15:09 Kenpachi wrote:
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?


Pretty sure the real problem is that he has almost 0 ganking potential pre-6.
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
December 23 2012 06:12 GMT
#2508
On December 23 2012 15:09 Kenpachi wrote:
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?


Nope. Not especially anyways. He basically needs level 6, a sunfire and he's pretty much good til LW's start coming out.
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dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
December 23 2012 06:15 GMT
#2509
On December 23 2012 15:12 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:09 Kenpachi wrote:
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?


Nope. Not especially anyways. He basically needs level 6, a sunfire and he's pretty much good til LW's start coming out.


Malphite jungle sucks at ganking pre-6, is very ult dependent post 6, and is pretty slow.

All of this is offset by the fact that good malphite ults are one of the best engages in the game and malphite can single handedly win teamfights by ulting well.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 23 2012 06:16 GMT
#2510
On December 23 2012 15:12 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:09 Kenpachi wrote:
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?


Pretty sure the real problem is that he has almost 0 ganking potential pre-6.

Q is actually better than what a lot of junglers have.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 23 2012 06:18 GMT
#2511
Malph's always relevant if he manages to ult key people then E the AD carry.

On December 23 2012 15:02 HazMat wrote:
Anyone notice Panth's ult dealing dmg a little bit late this patch? Feels like there's a delay from when I fall down and do damage.

I dunno, I always queue up W when ulting so I never do damage anyway. No idea if that's intended though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 23 2012 06:23 GMT
#2512
On December 23 2012 15:16 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:12 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:09 Kenpachi wrote:
i dont understand why people like Malphite jungle.. isnt he item and mana dependent heavily?


Pretty sure the real problem is that he has almost 0 ganking potential pre-6.

Q is actually better than what a lot of junglers have.


Better than Master Yi probably.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 23 2012 06:36 GMT
#2513
On December 23 2012 15:02 HazMat wrote:
Anyone notice Panth's ult dealing dmg a little bit late this patch? Feels like there's a delay from when I fall down and do damage.

Thats been the case for me ever since I have played pantheon. It was supposed to happen right when he landed?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 06:40:28
December 23 2012 06:39 GMT
#2514
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15a9pu/getting_nicki_singer_of_the_vi_theme_and_her_band/

called it

EDIT: Three days EXACTLY.
:3
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 23 2012 06:59 GMT
#2515
<style>body { background: url('http://i.imgur.com/ZSY3u.gif') repeat; }</style> hey yall any thoughts on kass he is still really storng vsing some popular picks like tf
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
December 23 2012 07:02 GMT
#2516
On December 23 2012 15:59 jaybrundage wrote:
<style>body { background: url('http://i.imgur.com/ZSY3u.gif') repeat; }</style> hey yall any thoughts on kass he is still really storng vsing some popular picks like tf

Nice try at the spinning tank gif. No cigar though.

Kassadin still strong as an assassin, just his laning phase is a problem. Silence is nice to stop TF ports, and your ult is good for chasing and executing. Can always go Uta build too.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 23 2012 07:02 GMT
#2517
Situational. Probably higher effectiveness in solo queue because people don't pick very cognizant of him and you can sneak in a good matchup. In competitive play, lane arrangements are too flexible at the moment--even if you have a good matchup vs. their AP, it's too easy to get matched into a lane swap (e.g. AD mid) or 1v2, and just get crushed because of how badly Kassadin fairs in either situation.
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Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
December 23 2012 07:04 GMT
#2518
scarra losing lane to 1goal and 1dream; the high elo only kassadin player as morde l0l
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 07:37:47
December 23 2012 07:36 GMT
#2519
On December 23 2012 14:59 Ryuu314 wrote:
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On December 23 2012 14:48 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 23 2012 14:43 UniversalSnip wrote:
we were just having a discussion in LP: why would someone lie about their elo? this happens 100% and it just baffles me, why would you ever do it. even if it weren't visible I wouldn't really get it


Bigger e-penis ofc. I was unfortunate enough to play with a guy twice who claimed to be 2k elo smurfing in ranked.... let's just say I can tell he is nowherer near 2k elo.

in my experience, the vast majority of times when someone tells you they're a high elo smurf, they're not. if the person really is a high elo smurf chances are they'll just wreck face w/out having to tell everyone about it.

I'll usually only say something to get people to stop whining at CS / early game.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 07:47:52
December 23 2012 07:45 GMT
#2520
God why is this game so hard.....

+ Show Spoiler +
But np Mordekaiser and Poppy OP. Carried our 1-10 Ezreal and 0-7 Sona.
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