EPTJust because he got warned repeatedly doesnt mean its justified.
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zulu_nation8
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Just because he got warned repeatedly doesnt mean its justified. | ||
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Gorsameth
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On December 06 2012 04:04 zulu_nation8 wrote: this is like a soccer player being mean to people constantly in sunday park games and getting banned from the premier league as a result. I'm saying no one HERE has been affected. Just because he got warned repeatedly doesnt mean its justified. 8 tribunal cases all found to be punish by riot after carefull review. Stop spouting BS. | ||
IntoTheWow
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IntoTheWow
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On December 06 2012 04:04 zulu_nation8 wrote: this is like a soccer player being mean to people constantly in sunday park games and getting banned from the premier league as a result. I'm saying no one HERE has been affected. Just because he got warned repeatedly doesnt mean its justified. You know players get banned for their actions outside the match too right? Like what they say on TV. And yes, people have been affected. People that played with him in solo Q. | ||
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zulu_nation8
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IntoTheWow
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All I said is that "justified" is subjective, and in this case, the rules are set by riot. Please quote the post where I say "keep your opinions to yourself". | ||
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zulu_nation8
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koreasilver
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zulu_nation8
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On December 06 2012 04:17 IntoTheWow wrote: You should take more than two seconds before regurgitating the first thing that comes into your mind. All I said is that "justified" is subjective, and in this case, the rules are set by riot. Please quote the post where I say "keep your opinions to yourself". I'm saying justified ethically, which is what we're arguing about yes? If we can't argue whether the decision is justified because Riot has the final say then why do we have this thread? Can you come up with real opinions now besides he rager he bad me angry? | ||
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thenexusp
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EDIT: and honestly we've had real opinions this whole time but you keep writing them off as 'angry mob' as if any opinion that doesn't agree with yours isn't valid | ||
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Numy
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Femari
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On December 06 2012 04:18 zulu_nation8 wrote: yes professional athletes get banned from their sport for something outside of professional sports when they do stuff like commit murder. In football/soccer, when have people ever been globally banned except for doping? Hence my first argument. How am I sprouting BS? I obviously know people have been affected when he got reported, I'm saying no one HERE has been affected yet people are too quick to be as unsympathetic as possible. This isn't soccer, this is LoL. You cannot compare things that have completely different rule set. And I have no sympathy for a person who harasses others for making mistakes in an online game. | ||
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koreasilver
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because solo queue is where riot markets progamers Hence why they promote it through... featured streamers? It should have been obvious for months and months that Riot does put some weight in the image of pub games. If they didn't, they wouldn't have put resources into their tribunal system, punish players for their streaming conduct, reward players for their streaming conduct, etc. | ||
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IntoTheWow
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On December 06 2012 04:18 zulu_nation8 wrote: yes professional athletes get banned from their sport for something outside of professional sports when they do stuff like commit murder. In football/soccer, when have people ever been globally banned except for doping? Hence my first argument. How am I sprouting BS? I obviously know people have been affected when he got reported, I'm saying no one HERE has been affected yet people are too quick to be as unsympathetic as possible. Because we can relate to the action of being harrassed or insulted in a game. So when a person mugs someone on the street we should be sympathetic because he didn't mug us in particular? Are you trying to be annoying now? Of course you don't get global bans on football, cause they are not necessary. Players have binding contracts that prohibit them from playing for other teams, so while a player is banned from X league is not like he can play in Y league while his banned. | ||
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zulu_nation8
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IntoTheWow
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On December 06 2012 04:20 zulu_nation8 wrote: I'm saying justified ethically, which is what we're arguing about yes? If we can't argue whether the decision is justified because Riot has the final say then why do we have this thread? Can you come up with real opinions now besides he rager he bad me angry? Ethics are subjective as well, so I don't see how that changes anything. | ||
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zulu_nation8
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On December 06 2012 04:24 koreasilver wrote: Hence why they promote it through... featured streamers? It should have been obvious for months and months that Riot does put some weight in the image of pub games. If they didn't, they wouldn't have put resources into their tribunal system, punish players for their streaming conduct, reward players for their streaming conduct, etc. IWD doesn't even stream, I know he has one but he doesn't use it. So it's better to punish someone who has no fanbase rather than actual ragers who rage on stream because they have fanbases who will provide more of a backlash. | ||
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IntoTheWow
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Note: writing "he bad me angry" "angry mod" does not constitute a proper answer. | ||
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Ryuu314
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On December 06 2012 04:25 zulu_nation8 wrote: would you have known bin laden was a murderer and terrorist if no one told you? I'm just glad you guys don't decide on real death sentences. except some of us actually played with this guy in solo q. And death penalty is a terrible analogy. Rather, think of it this way. If you end up playing in Riot's Championship series, you're getting salaried iirc. In other words, starting S3, progaming is a legit fucking job. Now I don't know if/where you work, but if I run my mouth off to my boss's customers 9 times, I'd get fucking fired. That's basically what happened here. IWD got fired for being a douche, which happens in the real world all the time. While LoL may just be a game for you and me, for IWD and the other pros, it's not "just a game." It's their job. They need to treat it as such and accept the consequences for not doing so. Riot didn't ruin his life; IWD ruined his own goddam life by ignoring 8 warnings. It's not like he didn't know this would happen ahead of time anyways. If you got warned 8 times at your job for harassment, then you were told by your boss that you'd get fired if you keep this up, then you don't actually change your behavior, would you be surprised you got fired? Also, guys like TOO and Dyrus rage plenty, but they don't actually harass their teammates (usually). They just rage on screen and verbally. There's nothing wrong with that since they're not actually harassing their teammates; they're basically just saying what they're thinking and there's nothing wrong with thinking X player is utter trash or Y player is a goddamn cocksucking fag fucker. It's like you yelling at your computer screen when some idiot does somethign stupid in game. However, there is somethign wrong when you actually take the time to say that to them repeatedly and harass them. | ||
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zulu_nation8
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On December 06 2012 04:24 IntoTheWow wrote: Because we can relate to the action of being harrassed or insulted in a game. So when a person mugs someone on the street we should be sympathetic because he didn't mug us in particular? Are you trying to be annoying now? Of course you don't get global bans on football, cause they are not necessary. Players have binding contracts that prohibit them from playing for other teams, so while a player is banned from X league is not like he can play in Y league while his banned. so like I said, IWD has become the scapegoat for every solo queuer who has ever gotten harassed or insulted. The difference is he's not the people who have harassed you and you only know him from progaming, His image as a normal, even professional progamer is destroyed because of something that has nothing to do with anyone aside from like the 1k people at his elo who've queued into or with him, I don't even think he's played that many solo queue games last season. But the public outcry is so strong because apparently he's become the guy who just harassed you in game yesterday. I think this is called mob mentality, without concern for the individual. | ||
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