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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 07 2012 02:36 GMT
#1641
Riven time. BT/BC Riven raping errythin in the house.
It's your boy Guzma!
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
December 07 2012 02:37 GMT
#1642
Are ASPD marks the new gold standard for junglers in the new jungle?
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 07 2012 02:37 GMT
#1643
On December 07 2012 11:33 Requizen wrote:
BAN THAT LITTLE FUCKING RAT

Pretty sure lmaqtpie wasn't a big problem that game, all he did was feed early and got carried lol
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 07 2012 02:38 GMT
#1644
Muramana toggle can't only work for physical spells, because a lot of bruiser champs and such have skills that do magic damage.

It would screw over Yorick like crazy, for example.

The +mana on Muramana and Seraphs Embrace just shouldn't stack.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 07 2012 02:38 GMT
#1645
Ooooooo Annie lets see how this works out.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 07 2012 02:38 GMT
#1646
These champs from Dig, it's like S2 didn't even exist lol.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 07 2012 02:38 GMT
#1647
On December 07 2012 11:37 upperbound wrote:
Are ASPD marks the new gold standard for junglers in the new jungle?

Most junglers used attack speed marks even before rework.
Cackle™
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 07 2012 02:39 GMT
#1648
Navi says great things about Rhux. Let's see if he can carry with Riven.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 07 2012 02:40 GMT
#1649
On December 07 2012 11:38 Ketara wrote:
Muramana toggle can't only work for physical spells, because a lot of bruiser champs and such have skills that do magic damage.

It would screw over Yorick like crazy, for example.

The +mana on Muramana and Seraphs Embrace just shouldn't stack.

It's a fringe case, I wouldn't say it screws him, just makes the toggle less effective for his spells. Still get's the stronger autoattacks. Not like Muramana is required to make him viable. But I understand your point. Maybe just some number tweaks is all is needs.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 07 2012 02:41 GMT
#1650
On December 07 2012 11:34 onlywonderboy wrote:
I don't think Ryze is the issue, it's the items. If you nerfed Ryze to the point where stacking mana wasn't the way to play him it would change to champ fundamentally. Someone suggested that changing Muramana so the toggle only works on spells that do physical damage, that would help a lot ha.
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 11:33 Sufficiency wrote:
Does anyone know if Muramana works with Karthus's Q if it hits only one target?

I would assume so, it procs single target spell vamp if it hits one person.


Only on physical damage would help a lot. Or just remove the spell part altogether and make it only work with autoattacks.

It is possible to build Muramana on other AP champions.... Cassiopeia, for example, should work well with this item's active on paper (trololol Twin Fang spams). Unfortunately she doesn't scale directly with AD or mana otherwise, making this almost exclusively a Ryze item who can also benefit the other aspects of this item.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
December 07 2012 02:42 GMT
#1651
No one's said anything about AD Jayce? Did I miss some recent development???
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 02:45:46
December 07 2012 02:43 GMT
#1652
twin fang (for some reason) counts as AoE for spellvamp and Rylai purposes, so no, doubt it works

honestly people are overreacting, the problem 100% is tear stacking which I guarantee is unintended and nerfing it will ONLY nerf Ryze aka it's a fix
Carrilord has arrived.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 07 2012 02:44 GMT
#1653
On December 07 2012 11:41 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 11:34 onlywonderboy wrote:
I don't think Ryze is the issue, it's the items. If you nerfed Ryze to the point where stacking mana wasn't the way to play him it would change to champ fundamentally. Someone suggested that changing Muramana so the toggle only works on spells that do physical damage, that would help a lot ha.
On December 07 2012 11:33 Sufficiency wrote:
Does anyone know if Muramana works with Karthus's Q if it hits only one target?

I would assume so, it procs single target spell vamp if it hits one person.


Only on physical damage would help a lot. Or just remove the spell part altogether and make it only work with autoattacks.

It is possible to build Muramana on other AP champions.... Cassiopeia, for example, should work well with this item's active on paper (trololol Twin Fang spams). Unfortunately she doesn't scale directly with AD or mana otherwise, making this almost exclusively a Ryze item who can also benefit the other aspects of this item.

I prefer if they didn't remove it, it's a really interesting ability. Although interesting is harder to balance.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 02:47:45
December 07 2012 02:47 GMT
#1654
LOL WHAT urgot and soraka just triple kill olaf + blitz + jayce 2v3..
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
December 07 2012 02:47 GMT
#1655
Ryze is so god damn good with new items omg.

Srsly rush tears and muramune. That single item will make your autos do ~400dmg and your Q and W gain an extra ~200 magic dmg jsut from the items special ability.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
December 07 2012 02:47 GMT
#1656
Barrier OP lol
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 07 2012 02:47 GMT
#1657
Holy shit Urgot.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 07 2012 02:47 GMT
#1658
URGOT OP!!!!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
December 07 2012 02:47 GMT
#1659
time to start playing urgot again
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 07 2012 02:48 GMT
#1660
Can't tell if I'm excited or terrified about the possible return of Urgot.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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