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Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
November 15 2012 21:15 GMT
#1121
With the improved Tiamat and Ravenous Hydra I think we're going to see more lane swaps.

1v2 lanes would be better (I'm looking at you Olaf) and more champions could go bot in a 1v2 (Health regen + Life steal + Active AOE Ability => Sustained Waveclearing anybody?)

Then with early towers down in your 2v1 lane (if you don't get countered / you don't screw up), the support can buy the promote item => promote your botlane => you group and take objectives.

This would counter people trying play lategame heros in the new jungle
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 15 2012 21:15 GMT
#1122
I think the only problem with lux is that her passive requires her to move into a far closer range than all the rest of her skills. Kind of contrary ideas
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 21:17:25
November 15 2012 21:17 GMT
#1123
I hate lux players so much,I don't know why but I just do.(ares you don't count)
Cackle™
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
November 15 2012 21:18 GMT
#1124
On November 16 2012 05:35 AwayFromLife wrote:
New HUD and Store look pretty cool.

Apparently you can also type TONS OF DAMAGE into the new search bar and Triforce will be listed. Well played.


Really like most of the changes, especially the search bar. The new look looks more sharp and smart, however while its nice to see the skill leveling when someone is streaming more easily, I actually dont like the skill level icons, looks weird to me for some reason. I feel like there should be an option to toggle item hotkey display and skill level indicator, I can see it getting a bit too cluttered, I get the same feeling when I play dota regarding the item skill level. It's a minor thing though.

Overall liking the changes.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 15 2012 21:20 GMT
#1125
On November 16 2012 06:12 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 05:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
She has a surprisingly high skill cap to be played to her full potential. I've seen some pros make Lux look pretty overpowered. I think being able to hit skills shots consistently might have something to do with that.

surprisingly? all of her spells are skillshots
the key to lux really is just hitting your q, everything depends on it

People suck at branching out her spells, too. They mindlessly spam and AA once at the end instead of using at least two charges of your EQR.

Also, I doubt an underpowered champion would be picked up during the world finals.
currently rooting for myself.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
November 15 2012 21:20 GMT
#1126
On November 16 2012 04:20 Koenig99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 04:16 Praetorial wrote:
On November 16 2012 04:10 Koenig99 wrote:
lol wtf, HSGG Udyr true raidboss status.


Link?

It was on his stream, he was literally 1v4 the other team and stole baron from them without smite. But then he got ddosed and they lost....



DDoSing pros? What is this, 2003 CAL-I?
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 15 2012 21:22 GMT
#1127
On November 16 2012 06:20 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 04:20 Koenig99 wrote:
On November 16 2012 04:16 Praetorial wrote:
On November 16 2012 04:10 Koenig99 wrote:
lol wtf, HSGG Udyr true raidboss status.


Link?

It was on his stream, he was literally 1v4 the other team and stole baron from them without smite. But then he got ddosed and they lost....



DDoSing pros? What is this, 2003 CAL-I?

Welcome to the "professional" NA scene of League.
currently rooting for myself.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 15 2012 21:34 GMT
#1128
Okay, maybe not that surprising, I guess I just meant her kit is pretty straightforward.

Also slightly off-topic, whats a good, relatively cheap gaming mouse for LoL?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 15 2012 21:37 GMT
#1129
On November 16 2012 06:20 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:12 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 16 2012 05:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
She has a surprisingly high skill cap to be played to her full potential. I've seen some pros make Lux look pretty overpowered. I think being able to hit skills shots consistently might have something to do with that.

surprisingly? all of her spells are skillshots
the key to lux really is just hitting your q, everything depends on it

People suck at branching out her spells, too. They mindlessly spam and AA once at the end instead of using at least two charges of your EQR.

Also, I doubt an underpowered champion would be picked up during the world finals.

the champion pool for pro tourney plays and solo queue are starting to differentiate quite a bit. Zilean can be quite powerful in coordinated plays, but very underwhelming in solo queue. I think a lot of Lux's strength are amplified in a very clean kite comp, and poke comp play, but it's pretty hard to abuse these strengths in uncoordinated solo queue play. There quite a few champs that aren't great in solo queue, but significantly better in coordinated plays
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 15 2012 21:37 GMT
#1130
Isn't gaming mouse a scam? The increased precision won't help you for LoL.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Lunek
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland164 Posts
November 15 2012 21:41 GMT
#1131
Most of it is a scam, IMO. Even fps players tend to play on low sensitivity to keep precision
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 15 2012 21:50 GMT
#1132
On November 16 2012 06:37 Sufficiency wrote:
Isn't gaming mouse a scam? The increased precision won't help you for LoL.


Precision in what sense? When I think of gaming mice I think of mice like the N-52 which have lots of easy reach buttons so you can have easier access to more hotkeys. Are gaming mice supposedly more precise in how they read mouse movements?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 15 2012 21:52 GMT
#1133
LMO forever
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 15 2012 21:52 GMT
#1134
On November 16 2012 06:41 Lunek wrote:
Most of it is a scam, IMO. Even fps players tend to play on low sensitivity to keep precision


IIRC the way a lot of pros do it is max the sensitivity on the mouse, and then lower sensitivity in menu's to the desired level. Gaming mice aren't scams, however I purchase mice based more on ergonomics than specs. Still using MX-518(3rd one, probably the last one I will go through).
Porouscloud - NA LoL
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
November 15 2012 21:52 GMT
#1135
man didn't they just redo the HUD and people complained because they couldn't resize it like the old one?
still looks nice though. i had also thought they were gonna add summoner spells to the side icons but i guess not.

i love how you can finally search for items though. one of the things i got super used to in dota, along with shift click for shortcut buys. too bad those aren't in there yet.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
November 15 2012 21:53 GMT
#1136
On November 16 2012 05:20 OutlaW- wrote:
i used to build mejai on soraka back in the day, was pretty legit



"Hey someone is getting a kill on top lane, better use my ult". God i miss it..
hi
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 15 2012 21:57 GMT
#1137
Yeah, you go 0/0/35 on soraka and you're like, man, if only I got mejais...

The next game you get mejais, but then people actually start focusing you, and you're soraka
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 22:06:39
November 15 2012 21:58 GMT
#1138
The new HUD screenshot shows some interesting stuff about the new Zeal:
-20g
-5% Attack Speed
-1% Movement Speed

The cost reduction is because Dagger now costs 400 instead of 420.

Also new Catalyst and DFG Active. Also RoA 225g cheaper.
Catalyst:
-125g
-90 Health
-25 Mana
Passive Health restoration reduced to 150 (currently 250).
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
November 15 2012 22:00 GMT
#1139
I was hoping they'd make bigger changes than that, to be honest
:3
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 22:07:20
November 15 2012 22:05 GMT
#1140
Looks like catalyst is getting a nerf along with a 150 g price decrease (sorry if old). Also Dcap nerf.
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