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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 23 2012 05:58 GMT
#3381
Just finished that Janook thing. Who the hell would ghost Riot_Janook? And why?
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 06:01:32
November 23 2012 06:00 GMT
#3382
Ahri will be ridiculous again with the S3 DFG. The Rylai's buff will also play into her favour.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 23 2012 06:01 GMT
#3383
On November 23 2012 13:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 13:02 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On November 23 2012 12:53 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 23 2012 12:45 OutlaW- wrote:
I don't think anyone would really just blindly go Trundle. Obviously only as a counterpick, and I truly believe that he has some match ups where he just dominates.


Tell me with a straight face ONE matchup he dominates.


Versus Nasus its pretty damn funny. Also versus Yorick he wins hard. But vs Yorick I prefer Cho anyways

Strongly disagree with the Trundle v Yorick comment. Any well played Yorick destroys him through harass despite the measly ~3-4 hp he gets every time a ghoul dies

I dont understand people like, OH MY GOD YORICK CANT HARASS YOU HEALING 3 HP WITH HIS PASSIVE SO BROKEN HE SO STRONG VS YORICK.
I'd rather just jungle trundle, i think people say he's only really good in poke comps?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 23 2012 06:01 GMT
#3384
i have a strong suspicion janook ghosted shake when we played 5s.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 06:07:50
November 23 2012 06:04 GMT
#3385
Trundle is good in a variety of very weird and niche situations. Poke comps are just the ones you most reliably have control over picking.

He's also just generally very good at controlling the movement ability of melees that rely on MS-based gap closers (e.g. they don't have jump/blink-like skills). Practically speaking, teams that don't use him enough for this purpose, but against champs that have hard-engagement abilities and blink-like skills (Malphite, Lee Sin being two common ones) he has a lot lower usefulness.
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 23 2012 06:06 GMT
#3386
On November 23 2012 15:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i have a strong suspicion janook ghosted shake when we played 5s.

wasn't it sneaking suspicion?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 23 2012 06:08 GMT
#3387
On November 23 2012 14:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 14:41 koreasilver wrote:
On November 23 2012 13:18 gtrsrs wrote:
On November 23 2012 13:02 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On November 23 2012 12:53 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 23 2012 12:45 OutlaW- wrote:
I don't think anyone would really just blindly go Trundle. Obviously only as a counterpick, and I truly believe that he has some match ups where he just dominates.


Tell me with a straight face ONE matchup he dominates.


Also versus Yorick he wins hard.


this is like patently not true
trundle has no tools with which to beat yorick
the regen from his passive is nothing for ghouls, yorick can kite him to kingdom come, and if yorick wants to play safe there's no way for trundle to harass him

this is one of those things that comes up all the time that baffles me

It's probably the most severe case of something that that is "popular knowledge" yet completely false when it comes to this game. If you've played the matchup then it because painfully obvious that Trundle does not counter Yorick in any way. If anything, Yorick has the advantage. I've gotten a few free wins as Yorick because someone on the enemy team "counterpicked" with Trundle.

Nasus doesn't beat Yorick either.

i played a game with nasus where i used lifesteal runes and masteries and started with vamp scepter. didn't beat yorick by any means, but eventually he went back to buy items and i took his tower. was kinda just sitting around running up and using syphon then running back withered whenever he tried to run at me.


That sounds really bad for any matchup....
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 23 2012 06:13 GMT
#3388
On November 23 2012 15:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i have a strong suspicion janook ghosted shake when we played 5s.

I don't even want to touch this post with how dumb it is. Reminds me of Durrhurrderp's DDOS accusations.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 23 2012 06:14 GMT
#3389
we all know that was froggen anyway
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 23 2012 06:15 GMT
#3390
On November 23 2012 14:58 cLutZ wrote:
Just finished that Janook thing. Who the hell would ghost Riot_Janook? And why?

I know. There really wasn't any good evidence he was being ghosted. Ez killed him once but he probably had a ward on baron so he'd have seen him backing.

On November 23 2012 15:08 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 14:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
On November 23 2012 14:41 koreasilver wrote:
On November 23 2012 13:18 gtrsrs wrote:
On November 23 2012 13:02 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On November 23 2012 12:53 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 23 2012 12:45 OutlaW- wrote:
I don't think anyone would really just blindly go Trundle. Obviously only as a counterpick, and I truly believe that he has some match ups where he just dominates.


Tell me with a straight face ONE matchup he dominates.


Also versus Yorick he wins hard.


this is like patently not true
trundle has no tools with which to beat yorick
the regen from his passive is nothing for ghouls, yorick can kite him to kingdom come, and if yorick wants to play safe there's no way for trundle to harass him

this is one of those things that comes up all the time that baffles me

It's probably the most severe case of something that that is "popular knowledge" yet completely false when it comes to this game. If you've played the matchup then it because painfully obvious that Trundle does not counter Yorick in any way. If anything, Yorick has the advantage. I've gotten a few free wins as Yorick because someone on the enemy team "counterpicked" with Trundle.

Nasus doesn't beat Yorick either.

i played a game with nasus where i used lifesteal runes and masteries and started with vamp scepter. didn't beat yorick by any means, but eventually he went back to buy items and i took his tower. was kinda just sitting around running up and using syphon then running back withered whenever he tried to run at me.


That sounds really bad for any matchup....

It doesn't sound bad at all. I can understand trundle not countering Yorick but I've seen Nasus play against Yorick and they just freeze lane and farm. That may not be a hard counter but it's not a loss either.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 23 2012 06:16 GMT
#3391
On November 23 2012 15:13 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 15:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i have a strong suspicion janook ghosted shake when we played 5s.

I don't even want to touch this post with how dumb it is. Reminds me of Durrhurrderp's DDOS accusations.


Bly knows his shit man.
Hey! How you doin'?
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
November 23 2012 06:20 GMT
#3392
On November 23 2012 15:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i have a strong suspicion janook ghosted shake when we played 5s.

o was that the tl diamond team you kicked off all the tl people so you could wintrade your way to diamond?

i am laughing so hard right now that you are accusing someone of cheating LOOOL
GANDHISAUCE
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 23 2012 06:25 GMT
#3393
On November 23 2012 15:04 TheYango wrote:
Trundle is good in a variety of very weird and niche situations. Poke comps are just the ones you most reliably have control over picking.

He's also just generally very good at controlling the movement ability of melees that rely on MS-based gap closers (e.g. they don't have jump/blink-like skills). Practically speaking, teams that don't use him enough for this purpose, but against champs that have hard-engagement abilities and blink-like skills (Malphite, Lee Sin being two common ones) he has a lot lower usefulness.


Well, its not like Lee, Malph, Jax, Irelia, Olaf, Jayce, ans Xin are common champions, so picking trundle is pretty safe no?

On November 23 2012 15:15 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 14:58 cLutZ wrote:
Just finished that Janook thing. Who the hell would ghost Riot_Janook? And why?

I know. There really wasn't any good evidence he was being ghosted. Ez killed him once but he probably had a ward on baron so he'd have seen him backing.

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 15:08 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 23 2012 14:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
On November 23 2012 14:41 koreasilver wrote:
On November 23 2012 13:18 gtrsrs wrote:
On November 23 2012 13:02 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On November 23 2012 12:53 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 23 2012 12:45 OutlaW- wrote:
I don't think anyone would really just blindly go Trundle. Obviously only as a counterpick, and I truly believe that he has some match ups where he just dominates.


Tell me with a straight face ONE matchup he dominates.


Also versus Yorick he wins hard.


this is like patently not true
trundle has no tools with which to beat yorick
the regen from his passive is nothing for ghouls, yorick can kite him to kingdom come, and if yorick wants to play safe there's no way for trundle to harass him

this is one of those things that comes up all the time that baffles me

It's probably the most severe case of something that that is "popular knowledge" yet completely false when it comes to this game. If you've played the matchup then it because painfully obvious that Trundle does not counter Yorick in any way. If anything, Yorick has the advantage. I've gotten a few free wins as Yorick because someone on the enemy team "counterpicked" with Trundle.

Nasus doesn't beat Yorick either.

i played a game with nasus where i used lifesteal runes and masteries and started with vamp scepter. didn't beat yorick by any means, but eventually he went back to buy items and i took his tower. was kinda just sitting around running up and using syphon then running back withered whenever he tried to run at me.


That sounds really bad for any matchup....

It doesn't sound bad at all. I can understand trundle not countering Yorick but I've seen Nasus play against Yorick and they just freeze lane and farm. That may not be a hard counter but it's not a loss either.


He was also talking about ghosting after he got "camped" by Hecarim. When I say camped, I mean he died to all 3 Hecarim ganks.
Freeeeeeedom
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 23 2012 06:28 GMT
#3394
On November 23 2012 15:20 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 15:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i have a strong suspicion janook ghosted shake when we played 5s.

o was that the tl diamond team you kicked off all the tl people so you could wintrade your way to diamond?

i am laughing so hard right now that you are accusing someone of cheating LOOOL

Dam, that was sick-nasty.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 23 2012 06:31 GMT
#3395
On November 23 2012 15:00 Sufficiency wrote:
Ahri will be ridiculous again with the S3 DFG. The Rylai's buff will also play into her favour.

Charm -> DFG and it's 15% bonus magic damage -> all of her other abilities sounds pretty damn strong.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 06:37:05
November 23 2012 06:36 GMT
#3396
On November 23 2012 15:20 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 15:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i have a strong suspicion janook ghosted shake when we played 5s.

o was that the tl diamond team you kicked off all the tl people so you could wintrade your way to diamond?

i am laughing so hard right now that you are accusing someone of cheating LOOOL


Shit just got real.

On November 23 2012 15:15 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 14:58 cLutZ wrote:
Just finished that Janook thing. Who the hell would ghost Riot_Janook? And why?

I know. There really wasn't any good evidence he was being ghosted. Ez killed him once but he probably had a ward on baron so he'd have seen him backing.

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 15:08 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 23 2012 14:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
On November 23 2012 14:41 koreasilver wrote:
On November 23 2012 13:18 gtrsrs wrote:
On November 23 2012 13:02 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On November 23 2012 12:53 Feartheguru wrote:
On November 23 2012 12:45 OutlaW- wrote:
I don't think anyone would really just blindly go Trundle. Obviously only as a counterpick, and I truly believe that he has some match ups where he just dominates.


Tell me with a straight face ONE matchup he dominates.


Also versus Yorick he wins hard.


this is like patently not true
trundle has no tools with which to beat yorick
the regen from his passive is nothing for ghouls, yorick can kite him to kingdom come, and if yorick wants to play safe there's no way for trundle to harass him

this is one of those things that comes up all the time that baffles me

It's probably the most severe case of something that that is "popular knowledge" yet completely false when it comes to this game. If you've played the matchup then it because painfully obvious that Trundle does not counter Yorick in any way. If anything, Yorick has the advantage. I've gotten a few free wins as Yorick because someone on the enemy team "counterpicked" with Trundle.

Nasus doesn't beat Yorick either.

i played a game with nasus where i used lifesteal runes and masteries and started with vamp scepter. didn't beat yorick by any means, but eventually he went back to buy items and i took his tower. was kinda just sitting around running up and using syphon then running back withered whenever he tried to run at me.


That sounds really bad for any matchup....

It doesn't sound bad at all. I can understand trundle not countering Yorick but I've seen Nasus play against Yorick and they just freeze lane and farm. That may not be a hard counter but it's not a loss either.


You're kidding me, right?
A VAMP SCEPTER opening. On Nasus.
wtf?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
November 23 2012 06:37 GMT
#3397
Being able to dominate nasus, yi and fiora does NOT make trundle a niche pick. Everyone dominates nasus, yi and fiora..
Being a niche pick means beating one or more of the popular top laners.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 23 2012 06:37 GMT
#3398
Xspecial/Elementz on twitter got nothing on TL drama.
Hey! How you doin'?
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
November 23 2012 06:40 GMT
#3399
On November 23 2012 15:20 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 15:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i have a strong suspicion janook ghosted shake when we played 5s.

o was that the tl diamond team you kicked off all the tl people so you could wintrade your way to diamond?

i am laughing so hard right now that you are accusing someone of cheating LOOOL


lmfao
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 23 2012 06:40 GMT
#3400
hi dna wassup :x
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