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[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 158

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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 22 2012 06:27 GMT
#3141
All Xpecial did was make a remark about Elementz being benched. Elementz wanted him to continue by being sarcastic. It was slightly entertaining. Elementz did an AMA, Xpecial made a blog they both win.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
November 22 2012 06:47 GMT
#3142
Xpecial is just saying the truth. Elementz dont got the brains to become a good support. His laning phase is really bad and not present.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 22 2012 07:18 GMT
#3143
man the lee sin s3 discussion made me sad, hes my favourite and most fun champion to play and riot decides to destroy him like this ......
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
November 22 2012 07:29 GMT
#3144
let's wait for the patch before rushing conclusions kay?
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
November 22 2012 07:38 GMT
#3145
On November 22 2012 16:29 SagaZ wrote:
let's wait for the patch before rushing conclusions kay?

Where's the fun in that?
twitch.tv/cratonz
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 22 2012 07:42 GMT
#3146
On November 22 2012 16:29 SagaZ wrote:
let's wait for the patch before rushing conclusions kay?

This is TeamLiquid.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 07:54:49
November 22 2012 07:50 GMT
#3147
scratch that.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 22 2012 08:00 GMT
#3148
Man i tanked 100 elo duo queueing with my friend the other day, and now its like impossible to get it back.
da fuq
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
November 22 2012 08:02 GMT
#3149
On November 22 2012 15:19 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 15:03 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
These tweets really are a good psychological treat. Who do you think really gives zero fucks in their tweets. Who is the one being passive aggressive and using personal insults. Everything elementz accuses xpecial of being is actually how he's behaving.

Elementz is understandably on edge because he just got benched. Its totally reasonable for him to be somewhat emotional about it.

Xpecial is just being an ass for no ostensible reason other than to be an ass.

What's the problem? Everybody knows that elements is probably the weakest 'pro' support, he probably knows it, even if he won't admit it (why would he, he's got a reputation to uphold). I'd react if this was 'news' but it's just 'olds'.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 22 2012 08:12 GMT
#3150
Man...IEM Singapore is such a joke of a tournament.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 22 2012 08:12 GMT
#3151
On November 22 2012 14:41 Sufficiency wrote:
Oh btw, a very, very, very long time ago I said I took a certain picture with a certain bunch of people. I said I would post it, then I sort of forgot. Now that I remembered I think I will actually do it.

+ Show Spoiler +
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and one more...
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ClosedeyesGG
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which one is you
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 22 2012 08:14 GMT
#3152
I'm pretty sure he's the one on the far left.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 08:25:28
November 22 2012 08:22 GMT
#3153
On November 22 2012 15:19 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 15:03 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
These tweets really are a good psychological treat. Who do you think really gives zero fucks in their tweets. Who is the one being passive aggressive and using personal insults. Everything elementz accuses xpecial of being is actually how he's behaving.

Elementz is understandably on edge because he just got benched. Its totally reasonable for him to be somewhat emotional about it.

Xpecial is just being an ass for no ostensible reason other than to be an ass.

Xpecial and Chaox have been slumping pretty hard imo. I don't think xpecial has any room to talk. Both are pretty mediocre imo. Dick move by xpecial, there's no need to trash talk a pro-player, just because he's not the greatest at his role. Maybe Chauster should start sending tweets talking about how shit Xpecial is as a support player.
On November 22 2012 17:02 Dgiese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 15:19 TheYango wrote:
On November 22 2012 15:03 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
These tweets really are a good psychological treat. Who do you think really gives zero fucks in their tweets. Who is the one being passive aggressive and using personal insults. Everything elementz accuses xpecial of being is actually how he's behaving.

Elementz is understandably on edge because he just got benched. Its totally reasonable for him to be somewhat emotional about it.

Xpecial is just being an ass for no ostensible reason other than to be an ass.

What's the problem? Everybody knows that elements is probably the weakest 'pro' support, he probably knows it, even if he won't admit it (why would he, he's got a reputation to uphold). I'd react if this was 'news' but it's just 'olds'.


Because, sometimes it comes down to respect, and pride. If you start believing the shenanigans that "you're" the worst player, there's no getting out of that mentality. Elementz is a pro-player, like it or not, there's no need for calling one person the "worst". Maybe if Xpecial was like Madlife tier support, he'd have room to talk, but all I see here is the pot calling the kettle black.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 08:29:41
November 22 2012 08:24 GMT
#3154
On November 22 2012 17:14 BlackPaladin wrote:
I'm pretty sure he's the one on the far left.


THAT IS CORRECT. HUE HUE HUE.

On November 22 2012 17:22 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 15:19 TheYango wrote:
On November 22 2012 15:03 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
These tweets really are a good psychological treat. Who do you think really gives zero fucks in their tweets. Who is the one being passive aggressive and using personal insults. Everything elementz accuses xpecial of being is actually how he's behaving.

Elementz is understandably on edge because he just got benched. Its totally reasonable for him to be somewhat emotional about it.

Xpecial is just being an ass for no ostensible reason other than to be an ass.

Xpecial and Chaox have been slumping pretty hard imo. I don't think xpecial has any room to talk. Both are pretty mediocre imo. Dick move by xpecial, there's no need to trash talk a pro-player, just because he's not the greatest at his role. Maybe Chauster should start sending tweets talking about how shit Xpecial is as a support player.
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 17:02 Dgiese wrote:
On November 22 2012 15:19 TheYango wrote:
On November 22 2012 15:03 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
These tweets really are a good psychological treat. Who do you think really gives zero fucks in their tweets. Who is the one being passive aggressive and using personal insults. Everything elementz accuses xpecial of being is actually how he's behaving.

Elementz is understandably on edge because he just got benched. Its totally reasonable for him to be somewhat emotional about it.

Xpecial is just being an ass for no ostensible reason other than to be an ass.

What's the problem? Everybody knows that elements is probably the weakest 'pro' support, he probably knows it, even if he won't admit it (why would he, he's got a reputation to uphold). I'd react if this was 'news' but it's just 'olds'.


Because, sometimes it comes down to respect, and pride. If you start believing the shenanigans that "you're" the worst player, there's no getting out of that mentality. Elementz is a pro-player, like it or not, there's no need for calling one person worse than another. Maybe if Xpecial was like Madlife tier support, he'd have room to talk, but all I see here is the pot calling the kettle black.


I think the Elementz being bad part is pretty true though. I don't think there are any rooms to argue that. It's a dick-move to point it out (e.g. "you are fat and ugly"), but he doesn't have to be great himself to point it out.

Also I still argue that TSM's botlane is the best in NA and is the reason why TSM is so dominate.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 08:32:41
November 22 2012 08:30 GMT
#3155
I seriously, don't get what xpecial is trying to prove with it though. If anything he should've been commenting on Westrice getting benched, that's a much bigger change to CRS's improvement than Rhux w/ Elementz.

Did you just call TSM botlane best botlane NA? O.o
Clg.na, FeaR, out class TSM's botlane, straight up.
Pretty much all other relevant NA botlanes can hold their own, quite easily against TSM's botlane. (even matchup).
liftlift > tsm
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
November 22 2012 08:40 GMT
#3156
I was heavily disappointed after reading you guys comment about the Elementz vs Xpecial case. I had to relog to my twitter after years and years of not being there, and maybe i just don't know how to use the damn webpage, but are these really the tweets you guys were talking about:

Elementz benched on Team Curse in favor of Rhux. Not surprised. I'm curious to see how well Rhux does under pressure during LANs


Oh don't get me wrong, @CrsElementz is good, but his laning presence is a bit lacking. There are just several minor points that add up.


@Celestiatem @CrsElementz It's not being arrogant. Every player can improve on something, I just pointed out where Elementz can improve.


@CrsElementz Well, honestly, I think you're one of the weakest supports in the NA scene. I didn't want to word it like that though.


@CrsElementz No, most competitive players agree with me. You should really look to improve or else Rhux will replace you.


@CrsElementz I said you are good, but your laning presence is lacking. Then you complain that I wasn't blunt enough, so there you go?


@CrsElementz I didn't even want to be mean, but it's clear you're unmotivated. Look at your match history. You have potential, get better.


Or did i just miss all the nasty stuff?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
November 22 2012 08:41 GMT
#3157
you forgot to run it through the internet drama machine
twitch.tv/cratonz
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 22 2012 08:47 GMT
#3158
On November 22 2012 17:30 wei2coolman wrote:
I seriously, don't get what xpecial is trying to prove with it though. If anything he should've been commenting on Westrice getting benched, that's a much bigger change to CRS's improvement than Rhux w/ Elementz.

Did you just call TSM botlane best botlane NA? O.o
Clg.na, FeaR, out class TSM's botlane, straight up.
Pretty much all other relevant NA botlanes can hold their own, quite easily against TSM's botlane. (even matchup).

Elementz is the one that made it a big deal. Xpecial just gave a small tweet mentioning the potential of Rhux. Elementz got upset, and pushed Xpecial. So then it began. It wouldn't make much sense for him to comment on the play of Westrice when his knowledge doesn't fit that role. The attitude of Elementz remains fairly positive even with the bench. Likely wishing Rhux will fail, because as of now nothing for Elementz changes other than not starting this tournament. I wouldn't mind constructive criticism from someone, he just pushed Xpecial to be bm. Whole thing is stupid.

Haha, you can't be serious about Fears botlane. Aphro is good, but when they do it offline... Doubledoco has potential to be the best botlane NA, though until they figure it all out they are below Xpecial/Chaox.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
November 22 2012 08:51 GMT
#3159
Ok, Just read most of the tweets exchanges between Xpecial and Elementz. Who the fuk Xpecial think he is, going around telling people that they are bad. I don't see how people can defend Xpecial, hes just an attention whore imo.
Terran
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
November 22 2012 08:55 GMT
#3160
And this is why people dont take NA-scene serious anywhere outside NA itself. If they spend half the time they are arguing now on scrimming they would actually get better...
KCCO!
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