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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 02 2012 16:34 GMT
#3661
On November 02 2012 22:31 phyvo wrote:
So Zed is on the PBE. Playing him makes my head explode as I fail to combo everything properly. No wonder I mostly play ADC/support lol

I'd try him (and fail, because his kit seems really fun but not the kind I'm good at) but the 200 ping from EU means he'd always get picked before my click goes through and I'd do as horrific with him as I did the day I tried to jungle Lee Sin and maximize his passive with 200+ ping.

On November 02 2012 20:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
A little late to the party here, but Sufficiency, I find it incredibly stupid that you think Viktor isn't a burst mage. I don't build Rylai's on Viktor anymore (I know my thread isn't updated). 2 DRing, Augment, straight to DCap. No DFG, nothing fancy. Just straight, unadulterated, burst to the face. In the last few days alone I've gotten at least 3 people who say "wtf, nerf Viktor".

People don't play him because he's not easy to play. It took me 50 games to really get confident with all this abilities. 200 games after that, I'm still getting better at him. But with a 60% win rate with 250 ranked games, I can confidently say he's an incredibly strong mid laner with very few weak matchups. A lot of that is attributed to his zone control, and yes, his ridiculous AOE burst.

Even Viktor(s) themselves seem surprised when you tell them their ult has a 0.5s silence upon casting, Blitz style. I'm surprised that you don't like rylai though, sure you'd never rush something like that with such a blatant midgame power peak, but once the fight start to last longer, blue buff (or grail, morello, anything with 15%+ cdr) and rylai makes him a powerful kiter thanks to Q shield+slow to survive a dive, W to ensure you can run, and then with the cdr and mp5 you can continually kite people with W+E. If they're low damage enough (say, Malph, Amumu or a Cho that didn't went for a lot of AP) your Q can be enough to make both of you unkillable and just have to each go his way.

I usually pick up rylai after deathcap for that, never initiating and waiting for my time to come (if they can see me I'll poke with E, if not I'll often try to remain hidden so they don't know where I'll attack from), then if they eat some AoE cc or engage on us I'll ult their squishies/cluster, E them, and use Q and W either to slow a diver then slow him further/stun him to protect my carries, or to burst a squishy harder and keep people in the ult's AoE with gravity field.

I really need to train my Syndra though. But I'm not good enough to play anything more than Viktor/Ryze/Orianna consistently at my Elo, and I want to play ranked games so I can dream and maybe reach gold. :<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
November 02 2012 16:37 GMT
#3662
Hey guys, is it possible to go from level 16 to 30 in 3 days with the Win and Daily XP boost? Normally on average, per win, you get 110~ xp. With both the Win and Daily XP boost you can potentially get 450-590 exp per win. Which means 4500-5900 XP per 10 wins. To go from level 16 to 30 would require 30107 exp. (1-16 cumulative = 9976 exp, to get 1-30 = 40083) Which would mean if I won every game, it would take roughly 60 games to get to 30k exp, winning 500 per game. But realistically it seems impossible, because half of those games you would probably lose, meaning you get only ~200 exp per win. So if you played 60 games, only won half of them, you'd end up with roughly 21k~ exp. Then if I played 30 more games, won half of them, i'd end up with around ~10.5k exp.

I guess what i'm trying to say is this: is it possible to play 90 games of league in 3 days?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 02 2012 16:38 GMT
#3663
On November 03 2012 01:34 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 22:31 phyvo wrote:
So Zed is on the PBE. Playing him makes my head explode as I fail to combo everything properly. No wonder I mostly play ADC/support lol

I'd try him (and fail, because his kit seems really fun but not the kind I'm good at) but the 200 ping from EU means he'd always get picked before my click goes through and I'd do as horrific with him as I did the day I tried to jungle Lee Sin and maximize his passive with 200+ ping.

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 20:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
A little late to the party here, but Sufficiency, I find it incredibly stupid that you think Viktor isn't a burst mage. I don't build Rylai's on Viktor anymore (I know my thread isn't updated). 2 DRing, Augment, straight to DCap. No DFG, nothing fancy. Just straight, unadulterated, burst to the face. In the last few days alone I've gotten at least 3 people who say "wtf, nerf Viktor".

People don't play him because he's not easy to play. It took me 50 games to really get confident with all this abilities. 200 games after that, I'm still getting better at him. But with a 60% win rate with 250 ranked games, I can confidently say he's an incredibly strong mid laner with very few weak matchups. A lot of that is attributed to his zone control, and yes, his ridiculous AOE burst.

Even Viktor(s) themselves seem surprised when you tell them their ult has a 0.5s silence upon casting, Blitz style. I'm surprised that you don't like rylai though, sure you'd never rush something like that with such a blatant midgame power peak, but once the fight start to last longer, blue buff (or grail, morello, anything with 15%+ cdr) and rylai makes him a powerful kiter thanks to Q shield+slow to survive a dive, W to ensure you can run, and then with the cdr and mp5 you can continually kite people with W+E. If they're low damage enough (say, Malph, Amumu or a Cho that didn't went for a lot of AP) your Q can be enough to make both of you unkillable and just have to each go his way.

I usually pick up rylai after deathcap for that, never initiating and waiting for my time to come (if they can see me I'll poke with E, if not I'll often try to remain hidden so they don't know where I'll attack from), then if they eat some AoE cc or engage on us I'll ult their squishies/cluster, E them, and use Q and W either to slow a diver then slow him further/stun him to protect my carries, or to burst a squishy harder and keep people in the ult's AoE with gravity field.

I really need to train my Syndra though. But I'm not good enough to play anything more than Viktor/Ryze/Orianna consistently at my Elo, and I want to play ranked games so I can dream and maybe reach gold. :<


It's really a matter of what you want. I love Rylai's as an item. It's expensive though, and gives you less burst but more tankiness than Void Staff. If I get it, I get it late to give me more utility in late game fights. Depends on how the game goes.
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Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
November 02 2012 16:38 GMT
#3664
On November 03 2012 01:03 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 00:50 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:26 pschiu wrote:
So... I have a question. What is Elise rappelling from? Does SR have a ceiling or something?

yeah i will never get used to the lack of realism in rappel (aka spider climbing up a sky with no object to cling onto). They should have made elise go underground instead of up high, now that makes much more sense.

You know how every summoner has a camera rig floating in the sky to watch the combat? Elise grabs onto one of those.

no i think summoners see combat through crystal balls, as was shown in the lol cinematic.

I know complaining about rappel seems trivial or maybe even nonsensical since 'it's just a video game, not supposed to be real', but there is has to be some standards to make it seem alittle more believable.

I mean how would you feel if brand has a water-type skill? Or if anivia had fire-type skill?
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 02 2012 16:39 GMT
#3665
On November 03 2012 01:19 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:16 GeneralStan wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:15 sylverfyre wrote:
While we're at it, why does fizz balancing on top of his spear make him untargettable? He's right there. On top of the pole. My shit is ranged. Can't I just hit him?


That's what bothers you about fizz? Where the heck does the shark come from?

*knock knock*
"Who is it?"
"...plumber ma'am..."
"I'm not falling for that, you're that sneaky land shark, aren't you?"


"...candy gram."

+ Show Spoiler +
Hasn't this joke already happened in a GD way early this year? =D
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
November 02 2012 16:39 GMT
#3666
jungle zyra works if you get your blue.

if you don't, you're really screwed. it is really bad. like, you have to use smite on wraiths/wolves because you can't clear anything else bad.

she also had really good clears before her hotfix nerf because the plant cannons could tank and did a ton of damage and now they don't do that much damage. but they can still tank and her clears are good, just not as good as before.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 02 2012 16:39 GMT
#3667
On November 03 2012 01:38 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:03 thenexusp wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:50 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:26 pschiu wrote:
So... I have a question. What is Elise rappelling from? Does SR have a ceiling or something?

yeah i will never get used to the lack of realism in rappel (aka spider climbing up a sky with no object to cling onto). They should have made elise go underground instead of up high, now that makes much more sense.

You know how every summoner has a camera rig floating in the sky to watch the combat? Elise grabs onto one of those.

no i think summoners see combat through crystal balls, as was shown in the lol cinematic.

I know complaining about rappel seems trivial or maybe even nonsensical since 'it's just a video game, not supposed to be real', but there is has to be some standards to make it seem alittle more believable.

I mean how would you feel if brand has a water-type skill? Or if anivia had fire-type skill?


Ok, ok guys.

Fire shooting out of this dude's hands is ok.

The flying bird made entirely out of ice is ok.

But water magic? A bird that uses fire?

COME ON.
It's your boy Guzma!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 16:43:13
November 02 2012 16:41 GMT
#3668
On November 03 2012 01:39 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:38 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:03 thenexusp wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:50 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:26 pschiu wrote:
So... I have a question. What is Elise rappelling from? Does SR have a ceiling or something?

yeah i will never get used to the lack of realism in rappel (aka spider climbing up a sky with no object to cling onto). They should have made elise go underground instead of up high, now that makes much more sense.

You know how every summoner has a camera rig floating in the sky to watch the combat? Elise grabs onto one of those.

no i think summoners see combat through crystal balls, as was shown in the lol cinematic.

I know complaining about rappel seems trivial or maybe even nonsensical since 'it's just a video game, not supposed to be real', but there is has to be some standards to make it seem alittle more believable.

I mean how would you feel if brand has a water-type skill? Or if anivia had fire-type skill?


Ok, ok guys.

Fire shooting out of this dude's hands is ok.

The flying bird made entirely out of ice is ok.

But water magic? A bird that uses fire?

COME ON.


Lol. In other news, you 5000th post was an old SNL skit joke. 'Gratz.

Also, the least believable thing in LoL is that any of the female characters can move without falling over.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 16:43:50
November 02 2012 16:42 GMT
#3669
On November 03 2012 01:39 kainzero wrote:
jungle zyra works if you get your blue.

if you don't, you're really screwed. it is really bad. like, you have to use smite on wraiths/wolves because you can't clear anything else bad.

she also had really good clears before her hotfix nerf because the plant cannons could tank and did a ton of damage and now they don't do that much damage. but they can still tank and her clears are good, just not as good as before.

Someone (I think Stonewall) said that if you get past her shit first clear or two, it's stronger than Fiddle jungle as the best pure AP jungler in the game right now. But I don't play AP champs and never played Zyra in particular, just what I heard.


On November 03 2012 01:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:39 Requizen wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:38 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:03 thenexusp wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:50 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:26 pschiu wrote:
So... I have a question. What is Elise rappelling from? Does SR have a ceiling or something?

yeah i will never get used to the lack of realism in rappel (aka spider climbing up a sky with no object to cling onto). They should have made elise go underground instead of up high, now that makes much more sense.

You know how every summoner has a camera rig floating in the sky to watch the combat? Elise grabs onto one of those.

no i think summoners see combat through crystal balls, as was shown in the lol cinematic.

I know complaining about rappel seems trivial or maybe even nonsensical since 'it's just a video game, not supposed to be real', but there is has to be some standards to make it seem alittle more believable.

I mean how would you feel if brand has a water-type skill? Or if anivia had fire-type skill?


Ok, ok guys.

Fire shooting out of this dude's hands is ok.

The flying bird made entirely out of ice is ok.

But water magic? A bird that uses fire?

COME ON.


Lol. In other news, you 5000th post was an old SNL skit joke. 'Gratz.

Oh darn, how ever shall I live with myself. That is for sure the worst thing that's happened to me this week.

/s
It's your boy Guzma!
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
November 02 2012 16:44 GMT
#3670
On November 03 2012 01:39 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:38 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:03 thenexusp wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:50 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:26 pschiu wrote:
So... I have a question. What is Elise rappelling from? Does SR have a ceiling or something?

yeah i will never get used to the lack of realism in rappel (aka spider climbing up a sky with no object to cling onto). They should have made elise go underground instead of up high, now that makes much more sense.

You know how every summoner has a camera rig floating in the sky to watch the combat? Elise grabs onto one of those.

no i think summoners see combat through crystal balls, as was shown in the lol cinematic.

I know complaining about rappel seems trivial or maybe even nonsensical since 'it's just a video game, not supposed to be real', but there is has to be some standards to make it seem alittle more believable.

I mean how would you feel if brand has a water-type skill? Or if anivia had fire-type skill?


Ok, ok guys.

Fire shooting out of this dude's hands is ok.

The flying bird made entirely out of ice is ok.

But water magic? A bird that uses fire?

COME ON.


no im saying that a firey man using water magic and an icy bird using fire magic is absurd.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
November 02 2012 16:46 GMT
#3671
Come on guys the most absurd thing about league of legends is that twitch can be squatting right next to you and you won't smell him.
boomer hands
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 02 2012 16:47 GMT
#3672
On November 03 2012 01:42 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:39 kainzero wrote:
jungle zyra works if you get your blue.

if you don't, you're really screwed. it is really bad. like, you have to use smite on wraiths/wolves because you can't clear anything else bad.

she also had really good clears before her hotfix nerf because the plant cannons could tank and did a ton of damage and now they don't do that much damage. but they can still tank and her clears are good, just not as good as before.

Someone (I think Stonewall) said that if you get past her shit first clear or two, it's stronger than Fiddle jungle as the best pure AP jungler in the game right now. But I don't play AP champs and never played Zyra in particular, just what I heard.


Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:39 Requizen wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:38 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:03 thenexusp wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:50 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:26 pschiu wrote:
So... I have a question. What is Elise rappelling from? Does SR have a ceiling or something?

yeah i will never get used to the lack of realism in rappel (aka spider climbing up a sky with no object to cling onto). They should have made elise go underground instead of up high, now that makes much more sense.

You know how every summoner has a camera rig floating in the sky to watch the combat? Elise grabs onto one of those.

no i think summoners see combat through crystal balls, as was shown in the lol cinematic.

I know complaining about rappel seems trivial or maybe even nonsensical since 'it's just a video game, not supposed to be real', but there is has to be some standards to make it seem alittle more believable.

I mean how would you feel if brand has a water-type skill? Or if anivia had fire-type skill?


Ok, ok guys.

Fire shooting out of this dude's hands is ok.

The flying bird made entirely out of ice is ok.

But water magic? A bird that uses fire?

COME ON.


Lol. In other news, you 5000th post was an old SNL skit joke. 'Gratz.

Oh darn, how ever shall I live with myself. That is for sure the worst thing that's happened to me this week.

/s


It's only amusing in the context of this GD, where the long-time posters get to 4999/9999 and go "WHAT SHUD I DEW FOR 5000?! TOP GUIDE, RUNE BUYING GUIDE, WHAT?!" (at least, I remember that happening a few times)

'Gratz were honest tho. 5000 = milestone, even in the context of an online forum.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 02 2012 16:47 GMT
#3673
On November 03 2012 01:44 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:39 Requizen wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:38 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:03 thenexusp wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:50 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:26 pschiu wrote:
So... I have a question. What is Elise rappelling from? Does SR have a ceiling or something?

yeah i will never get used to the lack of realism in rappel (aka spider climbing up a sky with no object to cling onto). They should have made elise go underground instead of up high, now that makes much more sense.

You know how every summoner has a camera rig floating in the sky to watch the combat? Elise grabs onto one of those.

no i think summoners see combat through crystal balls, as was shown in the lol cinematic.

I know complaining about rappel seems trivial or maybe even nonsensical since 'it's just a video game, not supposed to be real', but there is has to be some standards to make it seem alittle more believable.

I mean how would you feel if brand has a water-type skill? Or if anivia had fire-type skill?


Ok, ok guys.

Fire shooting out of this dude's hands is ok.

The flying bird made entirely out of ice is ok.

But water magic? A bird that uses fire?

COME ON.


no im saying that a firey man using water magic and an icy bird using fire magic is absurd.

But a spider that uses webs to pull herself up isn't? Maybe she pegs passing birds with it or something.

It's fantasy. A wizard did it.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 16:49:05
November 02 2012 16:47 GMT
#3674
On November 03 2012 01:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:34 Alaric wrote:
On November 02 2012 22:31 phyvo wrote:
So Zed is on the PBE. Playing him makes my head explode as I fail to combo everything properly. No wonder I mostly play ADC/support lol

I'd try him (and fail, because his kit seems really fun but not the kind I'm good at) but the 200 ping from EU means he'd always get picked before my click goes through and I'd do as horrific with him as I did the day I tried to jungle Lee Sin and maximize his passive with 200+ ping.

On November 02 2012 20:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
A little late to the party here, but Sufficiency, I find it incredibly stupid that you think Viktor isn't a burst mage. I don't build Rylai's on Viktor anymore (I know my thread isn't updated). 2 DRing, Augment, straight to DCap. No DFG, nothing fancy. Just straight, unadulterated, burst to the face. In the last few days alone I've gotten at least 3 people who say "wtf, nerf Viktor".

People don't play him because he's not easy to play. It took me 50 games to really get confident with all this abilities. 200 games after that, I'm still getting better at him. But with a 60% win rate with 250 ranked games, I can confidently say he's an incredibly strong mid laner with very few weak matchups. A lot of that is attributed to his zone control, and yes, his ridiculous AOE burst.

Even Viktor(s) themselves seem surprised when you tell them their ult has a 0.5s silence upon casting, Blitz style. I'm surprised that you don't like rylai though, sure you'd never rush something like that with such a blatant midgame power peak, but once the fight start to last longer, blue buff (or grail, morello, anything with 15%+ cdr) and rylai makes him a powerful kiter thanks to Q shield+slow to survive a dive, W to ensure you can run, and then with the cdr and mp5 you can continually kite people with W+E. If they're low damage enough (say, Malph, Amumu or a Cho that didn't went for a lot of AP) your Q can be enough to make both of you unkillable and just have to each go his way.

I usually pick up rylai after deathcap for that, never initiating and waiting for my time to come (if they can see me I'll poke with E, if not I'll often try to remain hidden so they don't know where I'll attack from), then if they eat some AoE cc or engage on us I'll ult their squishies/cluster, E them, and use Q and W either to slow a diver then slow him further/stun him to protect my carries, or to burst a squishy harder and keep people in the ult's AoE with gravity field.

I really need to train my Syndra though. But I'm not good enough to play anything more than Viktor/Ryze/Orianna consistently at my Elo, and I want to play ranked games so I can dream and maybe reach gold. :<


It's really a matter of what you want. I love Rylai's as an item. It's expensive though, and gives you less burst but more tankiness than Void Staff. If I get it, I get it late to give me more utility in late game fights. Depends on how the game goes.

I actually still think that he's good at clean-up with WotA-Rylai, less so than say Cass or Karthus obviously, but as good at kiting as Kennen, less vulnerable to gapclosers than Brand, less mana-intensive than Swain... basically, if the enemy bruiser is down he could probably attrition anyone but the tanks I talked about (and stuff like Lux or Xerath who just don't care and outrange his defensive capabilities).
It's just that this potential doesn't hold at all compared to his already-quite-good clean-up potential when geared toward teamfighting itself and burst. That and the lack of slots obviously.

On November 03 2012 01:47 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:44 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:39 Requizen wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:38 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:03 thenexusp wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:50 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:26 pschiu wrote:
So... I have a question. What is Elise rappelling from? Does SR have a ceiling or something?

yeah i will never get used to the lack of realism in rappel (aka spider climbing up a sky with no object to cling onto). They should have made elise go underground instead of up high, now that makes much more sense.

You know how every summoner has a camera rig floating in the sky to watch the combat? Elise grabs onto one of those.

no i think summoners see combat through crystal balls, as was shown in the lol cinematic.

I know complaining about rappel seems trivial or maybe even nonsensical since 'it's just a video game, not supposed to be real', but there is has to be some standards to make it seem alittle more believable.

I mean how would you feel if brand has a water-type skill? Or if anivia had fire-type skill?


Ok, ok guys.

Fire shooting out of this dude's hands is ok.

The flying bird made entirely out of ice is ok.

But water magic? A bird that uses fire?

COME ON.


no im saying that a firey man using water magic and an icy bird using fire magic is absurd.

But a spider that uses webs to pull herself up isn't? Maybe she pegs passing birds with it or something.

It's fantasy. A wizard did it.

Now I'm imagining a pigeon getting clung at by a 2 meters-wide spider scanning the ground for a prey...
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 02 2012 16:49 GMT
#3675
On November 03 2012 01:46 seRapH wrote:
Come on guys the most absurd thing about league of legends is that twitch can be squatting right next to you and you won't smell him.

Or that Teemo can be stealthed next to you and the summoners won't reveal him out of pure spite.

On November 03 2012 01:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:42 Requizen wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:39 kainzero wrote:
jungle zyra works if you get your blue.

if you don't, you're really screwed. it is really bad. like, you have to use smite on wraiths/wolves because you can't clear anything else bad.

she also had really good clears before her hotfix nerf because the plant cannons could tank and did a ton of damage and now they don't do that much damage. but they can still tank and her clears are good, just not as good as before.

Someone (I think Stonewall) said that if you get past her shit first clear or two, it's stronger than Fiddle jungle as the best pure AP jungler in the game right now. But I don't play AP champs and never played Zyra in particular, just what I heard.


On November 03 2012 01:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:39 Requizen wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:38 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:03 thenexusp wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:50 Cubu wrote:
On November 03 2012 00:26 pschiu wrote:
So... I have a question. What is Elise rappelling from? Does SR have a ceiling or something?

yeah i will never get used to the lack of realism in rappel (aka spider climbing up a sky with no object to cling onto). They should have made elise go underground instead of up high, now that makes much more sense.

You know how every summoner has a camera rig floating in the sky to watch the combat? Elise grabs onto one of those.

no i think summoners see combat through crystal balls, as was shown in the lol cinematic.

I know complaining about rappel seems trivial or maybe even nonsensical since 'it's just a video game, not supposed to be real', but there is has to be some standards to make it seem alittle more believable.

I mean how would you feel if brand has a water-type skill? Or if anivia had fire-type skill?


Ok, ok guys.

Fire shooting out of this dude's hands is ok.

The flying bird made entirely out of ice is ok.

But water magic? A bird that uses fire?

COME ON.


Lol. In other news, you 5000th post was an old SNL skit joke. 'Gratz.

Oh darn, how ever shall I live with myself. That is for sure the worst thing that's happened to me this week.

/s


It's only amusing in the context of this GD, where the long-time posters get to 4999/9999 and go "WHAT SHUD I DEW FOR 5000?! TOP GUIDE, RUNE BUYING GUIDE, WHAT?!" (at least, I remember that happening a few times)

'Gratz were honest tho. 5000 = milestone, even in the context of an online forum.

Thanks, I guess.
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
November 02 2012 16:52 GMT
#3676
OK. If we are going to do this...

Shouldn't Shen make a loud bang noise when he ults, since he's displacing air?
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 02 2012 16:54 GMT
#3677
On November 03 2012 01:52 Praetorial wrote:
OK. If we are going to do this...

Shouldn't Shen make a loud bang noise when he ults, since he's displacing air?

Technically, any instantaneous dash effect (Talon's jump, for example), breaks the speed of light and violates several laws of physics, and should render the person dead or falling apart at the molecular level. Teleporation is different, of course, since you're simply transposing atoms from one position to another, but dashes/charges that are fast enough should kill you.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 16:57:22
November 02 2012 16:55 GMT
#3678
On November 03 2012 01:37 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Hey guys, is it possible to go from level 16 to 30 in 3 days with the Win and Daily XP boost? Normally on average, per win, you get 110~ xp. With both the Win and Daily XP boost you can potentially get 450-590 exp per win. Which means 4500-5900 XP per 10 wins. To go from level 16 to 30 would require 30107 exp. (1-16 cumulative = 9976 exp, to get 1-30 = 40083) Which would mean if I won every game, it would take roughly 60 games to get to 30k exp, winning 500 per game. But realistically it seems impossible, because half of those games you would probably lose, meaning you get only ~200 exp per win. So if you played 60 games, only won half of them, you'd end up with roughly 21k~ exp. Then if I played 30 more games, won half of them, i'd end up with around ~10.5k exp.

I guess what i'm trying to say is this: is it possible to play 90 games of league in 3 days?

For one thing, I'm pretty sure the per win boosts and the timed boosts stack additively, not multiplicatively, so you are getting closer to 330 XP per win

30 games per day is like 20 hours per day. It might be physically possible but I don't think one person could do it. And if you actually try for it Riot's servers are going to randomly crap out for 6 hours in the middle of the night (murphy's law) and it won't work probably

On November 03 2012 01:54 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:52 Praetorial wrote:
OK. If we are going to do this...

Shouldn't Shen make a loud bang noise when he ults, since he's displacing air?

Technically, any instantaneous dash effect (Talon's jump, for example), breaks the speed of light and violates several laws of physics, and should render the person dead or falling apart at the molecular level. Teleporation is different, of course, since you're simply transposing atoms from one position to another, but dashes/charges that are fast enough should kill you.


It's not instantaneous, it takes 1/60 of a second (assuming 60fps), so he's traveling significantly slower than the speed of light.
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 16:59:17
November 02 2012 16:57 GMT
#3679
On November 03 2012 01:55 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:37 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Hey guys, is it possible to go from level 16 to 30 in 3 days with the Win and Daily XP boost? Normally on average, per win, you get 110~ xp. With both the Win and Daily XP boost you can potentially get 450-590 exp per win. Which means 4500-5900 XP per 10 wins. To go from level 16 to 30 would require 30107 exp. (1-16 cumulative = 9976 exp, to get 1-30 = 40083) Which would mean if I won every game, it would take roughly 60 games to get to 30k exp, winning 500 per game. But realistically it seems impossible, because half of those games you would probably lose, meaning you get only ~200 exp per win. So if you played 60 games, only won half of them, you'd end up with roughly 21k~ exp. Then if I played 30 more games, won half of them, i'd end up with around ~10.5k exp.

I guess what i'm trying to say is this: is it possible to play 90 games of league in 3 days?

For one thing, I'm pretty sure the per win boosts and the timed boosts stack additively, not multiplicatively, so you are getting closer to 330 XP per win

30 games per day is like 20 hours per day. It might be physically possible but I don't think one person could do it. And if you actually try for it Riot's servers are going to randomly crap out for 6 hours in the middle of the night (murphy's law) and it won't work probably



Actually, I'm pretty sure they stack multiplicatively, because when playing last night on my smurf I was getting between 450xp and 550+ exp per game. :/

Look me up on the client and check my experience gains for the wins I had in the most recent games for proof. I'd post a screenshot but im at work atm.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 02 2012 16:59 GMT
#3680
On November 03 2012 01:57 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:55 thenexusp wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:37 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Hey guys, is it possible to go from level 16 to 30 in 3 days with the Win and Daily XP boost? Normally on average, per win, you get 110~ xp. With both the Win and Daily XP boost you can potentially get 450-590 exp per win. Which means 4500-5900 XP per 10 wins. To go from level 16 to 30 would require 30107 exp. (1-16 cumulative = 9976 exp, to get 1-30 = 40083) Which would mean if I won every game, it would take roughly 60 games to get to 30k exp, winning 500 per game. But realistically it seems impossible, because half of those games you would probably lose, meaning you get only ~200 exp per win. So if you played 60 games, only won half of them, you'd end up with roughly 21k~ exp. Then if I played 30 more games, won half of them, i'd end up with around ~10.5k exp.

I guess what i'm trying to say is this: is it possible to play 90 games of league in 3 days?

For one thing, I'm pretty sure the per win boosts and the timed boosts stack additively, not multiplicatively, so you are getting closer to 330 XP per win

30 games per day is like 20 hours per day. It might be physically possible but I don't think one person could do it. And if you actually try for it Riot's servers are going to randomly crap out for 6 hours in the middle of the night (murphy's law) and it won't work probably



Actually, I'm pretty sure they stack multiplicatively, because when playing last night on my smurf I was getting between 450xp and 550+ exp per game. :/

Oh :\ I never used the XP boosts, I just assumed the worked the same as the IP boosts
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