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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 09:37:23
November 02 2012 09:34 GMT
#3561
On November 02 2012 18:30 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 18:28 AsnSensation wrote:
what the fuck, why Amumu Q range nerf ( probably remains the same with skillshot changes) but whyyyyyy bluecard nerf.

Amumu has the highest win rate out of all champions right now.

That's because he is my champion of choice.
Zzz why does Riot want to remove 100% of my champion pool in 2 patches? That's ridiculous. I am being unsufficiently rewarded for identifying the strongest champions.
NEVERMIND it's a buff, not a nerf. Yippie ki yay?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 09:41:17
November 02 2012 09:38 GMT
#3562
Amumu is really fucking broken he's like maokai except he has one of the best ults in the game on top of it.
Solo queue terror my bollocks AzF won their only game against TPA and it was basically singlehandely amumu.

If anything he's weaker in solo queue because his burst damage is pretty limited early game (and he can't chase esp without red due to long cd Q) and other junglers can rape early easier than he can. And people are more likely to do retarded shit and split up and not ward and get caught and stuff where in ranked 5's people play more conversative and stick closer to together which is like ding ding jackpot.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 09:41:01
November 02 2012 09:40 GMT
#3563
Also that is the Soraka nerf is the most random nerf I've ever seen. I can't even begin the imagine the thought process that was (or wasn't) behind it. Oof but yeah, I was concerned my best champion got nerfed. Good thing he's going to be strong as ever.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
November 02 2012 09:41 GMT
#3564
I've been missing max range bandage tosses tons recently I wonder if they really did stealth nerf the whole skillshots go longer than their indicated range thing.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9244 Posts
November 02 2012 09:48 GMT
#3565
On November 02 2012 18:40 Scip wrote:
Also that is the Soraka nerf is the most random nerf I've ever seen. I can't even begin the imagine the thought process that was (or wasn't) behind it. Oof but yeah, I was concerned my best champion got nerfed. Good thing he's going to be strong as ever.

They repeatedly stabbed AP Soraka and she just won't quit. Doesn't make much sense to me, I mean if it annoys them that much that champions designed for support are being played mid sometimes then why not remove ALL their AP ratios and buff their base spell values/utility a bit. There would be so much room to play around with supports if they weren't constantly paranoid about potential abuse in solo lanes.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
November 02 2012 09:50 GMT
#3566
I AM PLAYING MY 1500 ELO GAME RIGHT NOW. IF I WIN. JANNAS IS MINE.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 10:14:23
November 02 2012 10:10 GMT
#3567
lol gogo.
nvm found it.
Cackle™
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 10:14:20
November 02 2012 10:13 GMT
#3568
On November 02 2012 19:10 TheKefka wrote:
lol gogo.
btw is platinum 1.8k or 1.9 k elo?


I think it's 1850. Don't quote me on that though.

EDIT: Yep, it is. Here's a link for reference: http://competitive.na.leagueoflegends.com/season-two-rating-tiers
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 10:15:10
November 02 2012 10:14 GMT
#3569
On November 02 2012 17:25 overt wrote:
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On November 02 2012 17:15 Promises wrote:
I want people to keep thinking Viktor's shit. That way he's mine... ALL MINE! But yeah, I seriously don't get why people dislike him. He's got great ranged poke, can defend himself rather well with Gravity field, has good teamfighting utility because of that same field, has a rather insane burst, has a good laneclear.... I don't see many downsides. The one thing that's annoying is losing the extra slot, because it means that very often in the mid to late game you simply dont have the slots for wards.


There are so many champions in the game right now that there are bound to be dozens of champions that can work really well but are under appreciated. You also have to consider that when you're playing a champion that isn't very popular your opponents are not used to facing them.

Beyond the theory craft you have to consider that at least part of the success people might have with champions like Viktor can be partially based on your opponents not having as much experience against a Viktor whereas you very likely have a lot of experience against the common fotm mid laner you're against.

I'm not saying that makes Viktor bad. I think the majority of this community emulates the pros either directly or by copying what other people on solo queue due who were inspired by pro players. Very few people are willing to try something that isn't "standard" because there are less examples for them to emulate. Most of the champions that see pro level play are either relatively easy, relatively safe, or excel at doing one thing better than everyone else (Anivia/Orianna's team fight utility would be a good example).


This is certainly true, almost every game I play Viktor the opposing mid at some points states their surprise at some ability of Vik. The thing that mostly got me wondering is that I'd think that even on paper his kit would be quite strong, the Gravity Field+ult (+lazer) is incredibly potent in teamfights, he's got good poke and good survivability. I'm not surprised that people don't play him much now; people simply seem to be very unadventurous in LoL and just follow whichever hero's are most played by the pro's, who themselves even seem to only play a bunch of heroes untill one slightly more adventurous pro shows them the viability of another champ. I'm surprised that people didn't give him a good try in the beginning. From the start on I did quite well with him (admittedly at horrific elo, but that's my skill level ^^), and there's still quite a few situations where I'm thinking someone with better overview during messy teamfights or better mechanics could get so much more out of him.

But as said, I'm happy with the way it is now, I get to play my champ a lot and most people don't know what to do against him. Plus it's always more fun winning with a champ that's seen as an underdog then winning with a FotM champ that most people feel needs nerfing ^^
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 10:32:15
November 02 2012 10:31 GMT
#3570
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Anyways. Salce leaves Crs.

I guess Voyboy will be new top, which leaves me a bit distraught.

Can't wait for this weekend now though, x_x so much tournies. MLG SC2/LoL so exciting.
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 10:41:29
November 02 2012 10:40 GMT
#3571
Worst thing is when your hipster champion becomes FOTM. I've played Kat since change and everyone and their mother has been telling me how UP she is and at the beginning I even got dodges because I picked Kat and enemy countered with e.g. Kassadin (such a stomp for Kat).

Now she gets the nerfbat and people pick/ban her all the time. Sadhipsterpanda.

^ Grats Kouda! Teach me your voodoo!
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 11:33:40
November 02 2012 11:09 GMT
#3572
NicegameTV 3rd/4th Match got canceled/rescheduled
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 02 2012 11:13 GMT
#3573
On November 02 2012 19:40 Cuddle wrote:
Worst thing is when your hipster champion becomes FOTM. I've played Kat since change and everyone and their mother has been telling me how UP she is and at the beginning I even got dodges because I picked Kat and enemy countered with e.g. Kassadin (such a stomp for Kat).

Now she gets the nerfbat and people pick/ban her all the time. Sadhipsterpanda.

^ Grats Kouda! Teach me your voodoo!

i felt the same about gragas and now hes completely outclased by other mids after nerfs and dfg "removal"
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
November 02 2012 11:35 GMT
#3574
I still think that the nerfs to Katarina don't really affect her real strengths. Laning was never her strong sinde and the insane clean up potential in teamfights won't be any worse than it is now by a meager 20 dmg reduction.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 02 2012 11:46 GMT
#3575
A little late to the party here, but Sufficiency, I find it incredibly stupid that you think Viktor isn't a burst mage. I don't build Rylai's on Viktor anymore (I know my thread isn't updated). 2 DRing, Augment, straight to DCap. No DFG, nothing fancy. Just straight, unadulterated, burst to the face. In the last few days alone I've gotten at least 3 people who say "wtf, nerf Viktor".

People don't play him because he's not easy to play. It took me 50 games to really get confident with all this abilities. 200 games after that, I'm still getting better at him. But with a 60% win rate with 250 ranked games, I can confidently say he's an incredibly strong mid laner with very few weak matchups. A lot of that is attributed to his zone control, and yes, his ridiculous AOE burst.
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Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
November 02 2012 11:56 GMT
#3576
On November 02 2012 20:35 Argoth. wrote:
I still think that the nerfs to Katarina don't really affect her real strengths. Laning was never her strong sinde and the insane clean up potential in teamfights won't be any worse than it is now by a meager 20 dmg reduction.


I agree with the the clean up potential and that her place in the team fight won't be much affected but I disagree with the lane part. There are a few match ups where trading is really close right now (Ahri, Diana and Karthus to name a fewat my ELO) and the nerf might shift them from slightly in Kat favor to slight disadvantageous. I can't really tell without trying it out. But that's really all I see happening.

Hopefully she falls completely off the radar due to the "OMG so nerfed!"-effect that sometimes happens to perfectly good champions. I preferred when I was "alone":
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
November 02 2012 12:01 GMT
#3577
I'm a bit sad for Salce, always thought he was an awesome mid player. Hope he finds his team for good.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 12:05:57
November 02 2012 12:05 GMT
#3578
Wrong thread
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
November 02 2012 12:05 GMT
#3579
LG-IM with some roster changes. Will give better summary after I finished my food^^
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 12:24:55
November 02 2012 12:14 GMT
#3580
http://www.own3d.tv/Alex_ich

Alex Ich streaming atm, very good english commentary

;..; Stopped streaming because his connection lagged too much.
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