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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 01 2012 20:43 GMT
#3361
You should ditch camera lock the moment you install the game. Doing anything else is ludicrous.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 20:46:45
November 01 2012 20:45 GMT
#3362
On November 02 2012 05:07 Taktik wrote:
Ugh so we have another new champ "Zed" and I dont even know what Elise do ~~ Does Riot said somewhere if they are to stop making new champs after certain number or..? I mean with each new champ they got a ton of money but where is the limit? We got 106 champs right now.


Honestly I think that's a serious problem Riot's going to have to deal with. It really comes down to question of if there is ever going to be a time when enough is enough and there's just too many champions... how many champions can be made? Let's say Riot releases ~20 champions a year, in 5 years we have approx 200 champions. How is that going to work out in the long run? It's just going to become overwhelming and eventually I think it will hurt the game. 200 champions to learn? How will new players be able to cope? If you take a break from LoL you'll fall so far behind it'll be impossible to catch up. But without new champions people would eventually have an excess of IP, they'd lose all the money spent on people buying champions and their only source of income would basically be skins.

One champion a month would be a lot better for LoL in my opinion. But it would cut down on Riot's profit from releasing new champs because many more people would be able to afford it with IP. I dunno, just seems like Riot's marketing is short sighted and not good for the long haul. Other game companies constantly make and sell new games, Riot's just got this one and when it runs its course what then? LoL2 where they do a graphics upgrade and we've got to rebuy all the champions/skins we previously had? Or should Riot make as much bank as possible now and retreat to their private island in a couple of years.

Disclaimer: I know nothing of economics and am making this all up based off of assumptions.
Retvrn to Forvms
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 20:47:36
November 01 2012 20:46 GMT
#3363
Well they could just release more skins instead of champions no? I know they different people but those people as I said just slow it down with current crew and devote more into skins/older champions.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 01 2012 20:49 GMT
#3364
On November 02 2012 05:43 Numy wrote:
You should ditch camera lock the moment you install the game. Doing anything else is ludicrous.

I feel like camera lock is one of those features meant to wean in players coming from MMORPG backgrounds (expressing regen as per-5 rather than per-second is another; though that's kind of WoW-context specific). Some people never grow out of it I guess.
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 20:51:23
November 01 2012 20:49 GMT
#3365
I have 12.6k IP and am not really sure what to buy

Champions ranked in order of preference (by category, then by preference in each category)
Jungle:
Alistar, Dr Mundo, Maokai, Nunu, Hecarim, Cho'gath, Udyr, Malphite

Support:
Alistar, Leona, Janna, Nunu, Taric, Soraka

Top:
Garen, Singed, Jax, Vladimir, Riven, (Sion, Tryndamere, Teemo, Nasus)

Mid:
Swain, Annie, Ahri, Ryze, Morgana (Talon)

AD:
Kog'maw, Tristana, Graves, Sivir, Ashe

Runes (Red/Yellow/Blue/Quint):
AS / AR / MRlvl / MS
AS / AR / MRlvl / GP10
AR / AR / MR / GP10

6 ArP 3 AD / AR / MR / AD
AD / AR / 6 MR 3 MRlvl / AD
ArP / AR / MRlvl / ArP
AD / AR / MRlvl / AR
ArP / AR / MRlvl / HP5
AR / AR / MRlvl / HP5
AD / HPlvl / MR / HP5

MPn / AR / MR / AP
MPn / AR / MR / MS
MPn / Mp5 / MR / AP
MPn / Mp5 / APlvl / AP
MPn / HPlvl / MR / AP

Question:
Buy more champions (Amumu, Ezreal, Sona, Corki, Draven, Gragas, Irelia, Lee Sin, Shyvana)?
Buy another rune page/more runes and make an exotic page (Spellvamp, Hybrid Pen)?
Buy more runes and delete a current rune page to make two exotic pages?
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
November 01 2012 20:49 GMT
#3366
Yeah but how long can that last? How many skins can one really own for a single champion? There's gonna be a time where people have enough skins. Or maybe not... I've already got 3 skins for gangplank. Personally I feel that this is enough and I'm done buying skins but maybe I'm just really stingy.
Retvrn to Forvms
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
November 01 2012 20:52 GMT
#3367
On November 02 2012 05:49 xes wrote:
I have 12.6k IP and am not really sure what to buy

Champions ranked in order of preference (by category, then by preference in each category)
Jungle:
Alistar, Dr Mundo, Maokai, Nunu, Hecarim, Cho'gath, Udyr, Malphite

Support:
Alistar, Leona, Janna, Nunu, Taric, Soraka

Top:
Garen, Singed, Jax, Vladimir, Riven, (Sion, Tryndamere, Teemo, Nasus)

Mid:
Swain, Annie, Ahri, Ryze, Morgana (Talon)

AD:
Kog'maw, Tristana, Graves, Sivir, Ashe

Runes (Red/Yellow/Blue/Quint):
AS / AR / MRlvl / MS
AS / AR / MRlvl / GP10
AR / AR / MR / GP10

6 ArP 3 AD / AR / MR / AD
AD / AR / 6 MR 3 MRlvl / AD
ArP / AR / MRlvl / ArP
AD / AR / MRlvl / AR
ArP / AR / MRlvl / HP5
AR / AR / MRlvl / HP5
AD / HPlvl / MR / HP5

MPn / AR / MR / AP
MPn / AR / MR / MS
MPn / Mp5 / MR / AP
MPn / Mp5 / APlvl / AP
MPn / HPlvl / MR / AP

Question:
Buy more champions (Amumu, Ezreal, Sona, Corki, Draven, Gragas, Irelia, Lee Sin, Shyvana)?
Buy another rune page/more runes and make an exotic page (Spellvamp, Hybrid Pen)?
Buy more runes and delete a current rune page to make two exotic pages?

MOAR CHAMPIONS
I feel like you have a LOT of rune pages for a small number of champions you play :o
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 20:54:56
November 01 2012 20:54 GMT
#3368
gg have over 100 ranked games as tf and just realized that his E has a passive atk speed buff and Cdr no wonder i felt like he attacks faster with high levels.

especially the cdr is important löl
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 01 2012 20:54 GMT
#3369
On November 02 2012 05:49 Chrispy wrote:
Yeah but how long can that last? How many skins can one really own for a single champion? There's gonna be a time where people have enough skins. Or maybe not... I've already got 3 skins for gangplank. Personally I feel that this is enough and I'm done buying skins but maybe I'm just really stingy.

Part of it is going to be continuously bringing in new blood - SC2 has no in-game purchases and Blizzard made that profitable somehow.

SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
November 01 2012 20:57 GMT
#3370
WoDx is the only pro I've ever seen buy a shureliya's but gets the kindlegem first. Love it, a pro who doesn't blindly follow what everyone else is doing.

On top lane trundle btw
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 01 2012 20:57 GMT
#3371
On November 02 2012 05:54 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 05:49 Chrispy wrote:
Yeah but how long can that last? How many skins can one really own for a single champion? There's gonna be a time where people have enough skins. Or maybe not... I've already got 3 skins for gangplank. Personally I feel that this is enough and I'm done buying skins but maybe I'm just really stingy.

Part of it is going to be continuously bringing in new blood - SC2 has no in-game purchases and Blizzard made that profitable somehow.


Well that's not exactly the same business model, seeing as Blizzard releases other games, and doesn't continually produce new content/features for the existing game.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 01 2012 20:58 GMT
#3372
i have all 4 skins for hecarim and i never feel satisfied, whenever i pick him and go through skin choices i say to myself damn, i wish i had more skins to choose from for this awesome champion.
StrigHT
Profile Joined August 2011
United States49 Posts
November 01 2012 20:58 GMT
#3373
On November 02 2012 05:45 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 05:07 Taktik wrote:
Ugh so we have another new champ "Zed" and I dont even know what Elise do ~~ Does Riot said somewhere if they are to stop making new champs after certain number or..? I mean with each new champ they got a ton of money but where is the limit? We got 106 champs right now.


Honestly I think that's a serious problem Riot's going to have to deal with. It really comes down to question of if there is ever going to be a time when enough is enough and there's just too many champions... how many champions can be made? Let's say Riot releases ~20 champions a year, in 5 years we have approx 200 champions. How is that going to work out in the long run? It's just going to become overwhelming and eventually I think it will hurt the game. 200 champions to learn? How will new players be able to cope? If you take a break from LoL you'll fall so far behind it'll be impossible to catch up. But without new champions people would eventually have an excess of IP, they'd lose all the money spent on people buying champions and their only source of income would basically be skins.

One champion a month would be a lot better for LoL in my opinion. But it would cut down on Riot's profit from releasing new champs because many more people would be able to afford it with IP. I dunno, just seems like Riot's marketing is short sighted and not good for the long haul. Other game companies constantly make and sell new games, Riot's just got this one and when it runs its course what then? LoL2 where they do a graphics upgrade and we've got to rebuy all the champions/skins we previously had? Or should Riot make as much bank as possible now and retreat to their private island in a couple of years.

Disclaimer: I know nothing of economics and am making this all up based off of assumptions.


I think Riot has recognized that this could become an issue - which is probably why things like ward skins are being introduced. I doubt they ever stop making champions period, although they could slow down to 1 per month - maybe adding other cosmetic goodies to soak up IP & RP.

spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 01 2012 21:11 GMT
#3374
On November 02 2012 05:49 Chrispy wrote:
Yeah but how long can that last? How many skins can one really own for a single champion? There's gonna be a time where people have enough skins. Or maybe not... I've already got 3 skins for gangplank. Personally I feel that this is enough and I'm done buying skins but maybe I'm just really stingy.

If we assume that most of the LoL playerbase falls into a range of say 20 years, then the whole userbase will cycle out over the course of 20 years. That means another several million people who will buy 3 gangplank skins each.

The numbers above are based on fiction and therefore 105% accurate. You get the point.

Also Riot will produce a new game sometime in the future. Unless they all collectively decide to take the money and leave.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
November 01 2012 21:11 GMT
#3375
riot already has stated that they do have a target number of champions before they stop releasing new ones
dunno if there have been any indications as to when that number is
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 01 2012 21:13 GMT
#3376
On November 02 2012 05:57 SoulSever wrote:
WoDx is the only pro I've ever seen buy a shureliya's but gets the kindlegem first. Love it, a pro who doesn't blindly follow what everyone else is doing.

On top lane trundle btw

Is he playing it atm? Never understood how top Trundle could work.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 01 2012 21:15 GMT
#3377
On November 02 2012 06:11 Frolossus wrote:
riot already has stated that they do have a target number of champions before they stop releasing new ones
dunno if there have been any indications as to when that number is


It's n + 1, where n is the current number of champions.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
November 01 2012 21:16 GMT
#3378
Trundle's pretty good at trades, has an ok source of sustain, and is fantastic at assisting ganks.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 01 2012 21:17 GMT
#3379
On November 02 2012 05:57 SoulSever wrote:
WoDx is the only pro I've ever seen buy a shureliya's but gets the kindlegem first. Love it, a pro who doesn't blindly follow what everyone else is doing.

On top lane trundle btw


when i plan to get shurelias on anyone besides besides support I usually go kindlegem first too, the extra hp and especially cdr is pretty damn good and the regen you get from philo is actually pretty shitty thats why we still see alot of pro supports go straight heart of gold although 99% here agree that it's a shitty item
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 01 2012 21:21 GMT
#3380
On November 02 2012 06:15 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 06:11 Frolossus wrote:
riot already has stated that they do have a target number of champions before they stop releasing new ones
dunno if there have been any indications as to when that number is


It's n + 1, where n is the current number of champions.

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