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seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
October 30 2012 18:22 GMT
#2601
60+ min stalemated TT.

Riot sure fixed this map!
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 30 2012 18:22 GMT
#2602
sona was annoying, but playable against. the only variation i'd make for her was an earlier merc tread. now with all the nerfs on her (the first round and now the HP nerf), she's not a bad matchup. you can sustain away her poke, get off free harass with e.
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
October 30 2012 18:23 GMT
#2603
Apparently the pros didn't feel that way.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 18:36:59
October 30 2012 18:36 GMT
#2604
On October 31 2012 03:23 Sandster wrote:
Apparently the pros didn't feel that way.


My experience is similar to theirs. Sona crushes Nunu in lane. And there is absolutely nothing he can do about it. No poke no sustain no hard engage.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 18:43:04
October 30 2012 18:40 GMT
#2605
Interesting listening to Aphromoo's stream, him and Muffinqt really want Wingsofdeath, but he's still committed to the idea of just making money through streaming and subbing. Apparently Voyboy told them he has to decide if he even wanted to try out for Ferus. I kinda hope Wingsofdeath joins eventually though.

Edit: Ha, Aphro just told his viewers to go on Wing's stream and spam him to join MME.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 18:45:58
October 30 2012 18:43 GMT
#2606
Wow. Wings isn't going to stream now. I'm actually pissed Aphro did that.

edit:

okay i li3d.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 18:51:58
October 30 2012 18:44 GMT
#2607
On October 31 2012 03:36 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 03:23 Sandster wrote:
Apparently the pros didn't feel that way.


My experience is similar to theirs. Sona crushes Nunu in lane. And there is absolutely nothing he can do about it. No poke no sustain no hard engage.


Yep. Sona auto+Q (especially with power chord) out-trades Iceball so much it's not even funny. Then she goes back into bush, W, and is only 1 more cast away from another power chord.

EDIT: It's rough right at level 1 - Sona comes out of bush with a powerchord auto + Q, immediately putting you on the defensive and able to play aggressively because you're now low. Any amount of trade you do to her in lane is negated by the fact that 1) they're pushing the lane, and 2) they're zoning you, which lets her get level 2 first and able to heal. The only solace you get is that they tend to push the lane so you can farm a bit better, and you can assist ganks if you land iceball, but they can harass you even at your tower while keeping the whole place warded, and E away when your jungler comes. It's a losing matchup unless you significantly outclass the Sona team.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 30 2012 18:46 GMT
#2608
Aphro probably didn't expect him to react like that. Bummer, I was actually going to watch his stream too. Now I really don't know who Ferus is going to pick up...Cruzer? Went from having some good options to slim pickings.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
October 30 2012 18:48 GMT
#2609
Honestly. I wouldn't want WoD on Ferus anyways. They seem too inconsistent, either really cold or really hot like TSM.EVO was.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 30 2012 19:03 GMT
#2610
Could MME pick up Voyboy maybe?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 19:06:51
October 30 2012 19:04 GMT
#2611
I still think WoD would be an upgrade over Balls, plus him and Aphro are friends and played together on TSM.EVO. Bringing in a completely new player would be much harder on their overall team synergy. I guess I'm saying I'd take him over some Platinum Elo top laner that they think has potential.

Edit: On Aphro's stream Muffinqt said that Voyboy "had to think" if he even wanted to try out for MME, so he doesn't seem super interested, not as a first option anyway.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 30 2012 19:06 GMT
#2612
On October 31 2012 04:03 sylverfyre wrote:
Could MME pick up Voyboy maybe?


That would be amazing, but Balls is an okay guy.

Actually, he's pretty darn good.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 30 2012 19:07 GMT
#2613
On October 31 2012 04:06 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 04:03 sylverfyre wrote:
Could MME pick up Voyboy maybe?


That would be amazing, but Balls is an okay guy.

Actually, he's pretty darn good.

Balls already left the team though, so they are actively looking for a new top laner.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
October 30 2012 19:13 GMT
#2614
Why did Balls leave the team? I'm still confused. Also if LgN got absorbed by Fnatic, why isn't Cruzer on the Fnatic team?
User was warned for too many mimes.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 30 2012 19:15 GMT
#2615
On October 31 2012 03:48 Kouda wrote:
Honestly. I wouldn't want WoD on Ferus anyways. They seem too inconsistent, either really cold or really hot like TSM.EVO was.

WoDx has repeatedly said he wouldn't play full time on a team, unless it was a team that actually had potential to be the best.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 30 2012 19:16 GMT
#2616
On October 31 2012 04:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 03:48 Kouda wrote:
Honestly. I wouldn't want WoD on Ferus anyways. They seem too inconsistent, either really cold or really hot like TSM.EVO was.

WoDx has repeatedly said he wouldn't play full time on a team, unless it was a team that actually had potential to be the best.

Well that's a pretty vague statement.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 30 2012 19:17 GMT
#2617
On October 31 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 04:15 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 31 2012 03:48 Kouda wrote:
Honestly. I wouldn't want WoD on Ferus anyways. They seem too inconsistent, either really cold or really hot like TSM.EVO was.

WoDx has repeatedly said he wouldn't play full time on a team, unless it was a team that actually had potential to be the best.

Well that's a pretty vague statement.

Well, I think he was referencing the big 3-4 teams in NA, CLG/TSM/DIG/CRS, something that has big base salary, and actually has continual showings in tourneys.
liftlift > tsm
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 19:23:59
October 30 2012 19:20 GMT
#2618
I'd argue that many teams fear mme farus (esp if they had wings) more than dignitas right now, and curse has their own internal problems.

What I'd love to see is Salce replacing Regi on TSM (if he really does retire), and Wings playing top for curse.
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
October 30 2012 19:21 GMT
#2619
On October 31 2012 02:46 kainzero wrote:
i've tried a number of elise builds and i haven't figured out anything useful.

she feels both slow and squishy, but she doesn't seem to make a good mid and she seems terrible in the jungle.


I've been trying her in the jungle and she just feels like she should have AD ratios on her spider form abilities so she'd be able to itemize properly.

Maybe she'll get better with the new itemization in S3.

And I very much agree with the slow/squishy feeling, people can just run away from her during ganks or turn around and kill her.
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#2620
On October 31 2012 04:20 Sandster wrote:
I'd argue that many teams fear mme farus (esp if they had wings) more than dignitas right now, and curse has their own internal problems.

What I'd love to see is Salce replacing Regi on TSM (if he really does retire), and Wings playing top for curse.


Didn't Regi say that he was staying, though?
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