• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:35
CEST 19:35
KST 02:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 235ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon435.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch 60% Keyboards Viable for Starcraft? Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4347 users

[Patch 1.0.0.150: Shadow Isles] General Discussion - Page…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 129 130 131 132 133 310 Next
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
October 30 2012 18:22 GMT
#2601
60+ min stalemated TT.

Riot sure fixed this map!
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 30 2012 18:22 GMT
#2602
sona was annoying, but playable against. the only variation i'd make for her was an earlier merc tread. now with all the nerfs on her (the first round and now the HP nerf), she's not a bad matchup. you can sustain away her poke, get off free harass with e.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
October 30 2012 18:23 GMT
#2603
Apparently the pros didn't feel that way.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 18:36:59
October 30 2012 18:36 GMT
#2604
On October 31 2012 03:23 Sandster wrote:
Apparently the pros didn't feel that way.


My experience is similar to theirs. Sona crushes Nunu in lane. And there is absolutely nothing he can do about it. No poke no sustain no hard engage.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 18:43:04
October 30 2012 18:40 GMT
#2605
Interesting listening to Aphromoo's stream, him and Muffinqt really want Wingsofdeath, but he's still committed to the idea of just making money through streaming and subbing. Apparently Voyboy told them he has to decide if he even wanted to try out for Ferus. I kinda hope Wingsofdeath joins eventually though.

Edit: Ha, Aphro just told his viewers to go on Wing's stream and spam him to join MME.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 18:45:58
October 30 2012 18:43 GMT
#2606
Wow. Wings isn't going to stream now. I'm actually pissed Aphro did that.

edit:

okay i li3d.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 18:51:58
October 30 2012 18:44 GMT
#2607
On October 31 2012 03:36 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 03:23 Sandster wrote:
Apparently the pros didn't feel that way.


My experience is similar to theirs. Sona crushes Nunu in lane. And there is absolutely nothing he can do about it. No poke no sustain no hard engage.


Yep. Sona auto+Q (especially with power chord) out-trades Iceball so much it's not even funny. Then she goes back into bush, W, and is only 1 more cast away from another power chord.

EDIT: It's rough right at level 1 - Sona comes out of bush with a powerchord auto + Q, immediately putting you on the defensive and able to play aggressively because you're now low. Any amount of trade you do to her in lane is negated by the fact that 1) they're pushing the lane, and 2) they're zoning you, which lets her get level 2 first and able to heal. The only solace you get is that they tend to push the lane so you can farm a bit better, and you can assist ganks if you land iceball, but they can harass you even at your tower while keeping the whole place warded, and E away when your jungler comes. It's a losing matchup unless you significantly outclass the Sona team.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 30 2012 18:46 GMT
#2608
Aphro probably didn't expect him to react like that. Bummer, I was actually going to watch his stream too. Now I really don't know who Ferus is going to pick up...Cruzer? Went from having some good options to slim pickings.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
October 30 2012 18:48 GMT
#2609
Honestly. I wouldn't want WoD on Ferus anyways. They seem too inconsistent, either really cold or really hot like TSM.EVO was.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 30 2012 19:03 GMT
#2610
Could MME pick up Voyboy maybe?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 19:06:51
October 30 2012 19:04 GMT
#2611
I still think WoD would be an upgrade over Balls, plus him and Aphro are friends and played together on TSM.EVO. Bringing in a completely new player would be much harder on their overall team synergy. I guess I'm saying I'd take him over some Platinum Elo top laner that they think has potential.

Edit: On Aphro's stream Muffinqt said that Voyboy "had to think" if he even wanted to try out for MME, so he doesn't seem super interested, not as a first option anyway.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 30 2012 19:06 GMT
#2612
On October 31 2012 04:03 sylverfyre wrote:
Could MME pick up Voyboy maybe?


That would be amazing, but Balls is an okay guy.

Actually, he's pretty darn good.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 30 2012 19:07 GMT
#2613
On October 31 2012 04:06 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 04:03 sylverfyre wrote:
Could MME pick up Voyboy maybe?


That would be amazing, but Balls is an okay guy.

Actually, he's pretty darn good.

Balls already left the team though, so they are actively looking for a new top laner.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
October 30 2012 19:13 GMT
#2614
Why did Balls leave the team? I'm still confused. Also if LgN got absorbed by Fnatic, why isn't Cruzer on the Fnatic team?
User was warned for too many mimes.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 30 2012 19:15 GMT
#2615
On October 31 2012 03:48 Kouda wrote:
Honestly. I wouldn't want WoD on Ferus anyways. They seem too inconsistent, either really cold or really hot like TSM.EVO was.

WoDx has repeatedly said he wouldn't play full time on a team, unless it was a team that actually had potential to be the best.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 30 2012 19:16 GMT
#2616
On October 31 2012 04:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 03:48 Kouda wrote:
Honestly. I wouldn't want WoD on Ferus anyways. They seem too inconsistent, either really cold or really hot like TSM.EVO was.

WoDx has repeatedly said he wouldn't play full time on a team, unless it was a team that actually had potential to be the best.

Well that's a pretty vague statement.
Moderator
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 30 2012 19:17 GMT
#2617
On October 31 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 04:15 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 31 2012 03:48 Kouda wrote:
Honestly. I wouldn't want WoD on Ferus anyways. They seem too inconsistent, either really cold or really hot like TSM.EVO was.

WoDx has repeatedly said he wouldn't play full time on a team, unless it was a team that actually had potential to be the best.

Well that's a pretty vague statement.

Well, I think he was referencing the big 3-4 teams in NA, CLG/TSM/DIG/CRS, something that has big base salary, and actually has continual showings in tourneys.
liftlift > tsm
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 19:23:59
October 30 2012 19:20 GMT
#2618
I'd argue that many teams fear mme farus (esp if they had wings) more than dignitas right now, and curse has their own internal problems.

What I'd love to see is Salce replacing Regi on TSM (if he really does retire), and Wings playing top for curse.
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
October 30 2012 19:21 GMT
#2619
On October 31 2012 02:46 kainzero wrote:
i've tried a number of elise builds and i haven't figured out anything useful.

she feels both slow and squishy, but she doesn't seem to make a good mid and she seems terrible in the jungle.


I've been trying her in the jungle and she just feels like she should have AD ratios on her spider form abilities so she'd be able to itemize properly.

Maybe she'll get better with the new itemization in S3.

And I very much agree with the slow/squishy feeling, people can just run away from her during ganks or turn around and kill her.
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#2620
On October 31 2012 04:20 Sandster wrote:
I'd argue that many teams fear mme farus (esp if they had wings) more than dignitas right now, and curse has their own internal problems.

What I'd love to see is Salce replacing Regi on TSM (if he really does retire), and Wings playing top for curse.


Didn't Regi say that he was staying, though?
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Prev 1 129 130 131 132 133 310 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Brain Bouts
16:00
#121
RotterdaM1008
TKL 154
IndyStarCraft 141
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1008
TKL 154
IndyStarCraft 141
BRAT_OK 49
MindelVK 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 2320
BeSt 724
EffOrt 497
Soulkey 458
Horang2 412
Larva 395
actioN 338
Hyuk 309
Rush 237
hero 225
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 224
ZerO 188
Mong 91
Sharp 62
JYJ 60
sSak 55
Free 40
soO 33
Sexy 31
sorry 27
scan(afreeca) 25
Rock 24
Hm[arnc] 23
910 20
HiyA 17
Terrorterran 17
Dota 2
Gorgc8625
qojqva1484
XaKoH 500
Counter-Strike
fl0m1851
kRYSTAL_100
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King124
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu224
Other Games
Grubby3084
B2W.Neo679
Beastyqt677
Hui .143
ArmadaUGS118
mouzStarbuck87
ZerO(Twitch)16
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick33512
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV410
League of Legends
• Nemesis2995
Other Games
• imaqtpie451
• Shiphtur410
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 25m
Replay Cast
6h 25m
RSL Revival
15h 25m
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
16h 25m
Afreeca Starleague
16h 25m
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
SC Evo League
18h 25m
ByuN vs Classic
Cure vs Solar
IPSL
22h 25m
Dragon vs Ret
RSL Revival
1d 15h
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 16h
IPSL
1d 22h
Bonyth vs Hawk
[ Show More ]
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.