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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:16 zulu_nation8 wrote: cait is a crutch for learning ADs I wanted to write a joke that would be like a long-ish story that would be kinda clever and then it would get weird and the whole point is that eating is crutch for hungry people and that's why we can't find any guitar shaped dinosaur fossils or something like that. But then I realized it would like take a lot of thought to compose and stuff so yeah I hope you laffed anyway. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
Cloth + 3 + ward (works like boots+4... you wait for 5 gold to buy the last item) might be secretly awesome though. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:22 zulu_nation8 wrote: everythings freelo at 1200s No such thing as freelo when you hit 2k+ players in Ranked 5's T_T gg wp | ||
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Lounge
537 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:34 APurpleCow wrote: Most of the reason is that junglers can start with boots-3, so if you don't you're almost definitely going to give FB to a gank before 3 minutes have passed. Pretty much this. Back when junglers still started cloth5 you'd see more doran and cloth5 on laners, but now that almost everyone opens boots, you're going to have a cede a decent amount of CS until you know where the jungler is, or know without a doubt that you're safe early. (Maybe you saw them start regrow?) And if that armor doesn't quickly turn into something useful for you, you may become too far behind. I mean, if they're scary enough to start armor, you'll probably want tabi, but if you're just sitting on cloth armor until GA or something ridiculous it's probably hurting you more than helping. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:40 VirgilSC2 wrote: No such thing as freelo when you hit 2k+ players in Ranked 5's T_T gg wp Thats because you don't know about Viktor. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:38 Scip wrote: I wanted to write a joke that would be like a long-ish story that would be kinda clever and then it would get weird and the whole point is that eating is crutch for hungry people and that's why we can't find any guitar shaped dinosaur fossils or something like that. But then I realized it would like take a lot of thought to compose and stuff so yeah I hope you laffed anyway. ok i should say cait is a crutch for leaning to lane as AD, which is obv true. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:37 Cloud9157 wrote: Fair enough, but when you're a Riven with infinity jumps, couldn't you get away with no boots? But then what, you're just sitting on Cloth until GA (or making Tabi I guess)? I can see it being good in that specific matchup maybe, but why do that when you can go Boots-Dblades and not have to worry about defenses because you have your shield/MS/some damage? I've never found Wu to be abusive enough towards Riven that I feel scared enough to buy Cloth to counter him. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:43 Requizen wrote: But then what, you're just sitting on Cloth until GA (or making Tabi I guess)? I can see it being good in that specific matchup maybe, but why do that when you can go Boots-Dblades and not have to worry about defenses because you have your shield/MS/some damage? I've never found Wu to be abusive enough towards Riven that I feel scared enough to buy Cloth to counter him. If you need Cloth Armor to survive the lane, it stands to reason that Tabi would be a sound investment, especially as they increase the effectiveness of your shield. | ||
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HOOG
Canada52 Posts
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Sagamantha
United States339 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:54 HOOG wrote: I have move speed quints that I use for pretty much everyone, that lets me start with cloth5 / regrowth / 13 pots and not be too worries about ganks :D. Just don't push 24/7 13...pots?! That's something I haven't seen before. Lol. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:16 zulu_nation8 wrote: cait is a crutch for learning ADs It's only a crutch if you refuse to play other ADC because of it. It's a great way of learning some basic bot lane intricacies without being totally punished for the "learning" phase. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 31 2012 02:00 TeuTeu wrote: 13...pots?! That's something I haven't seen before. Lol. | ||
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
On October 31 2012 02:01 wei2coolman wrote: It's only a crutch if you refuse to play other ADC because of it. It's a great way of learning some basic bot lane intricacies without being totally punished for the "learning" phase. Cait is a crutch for double lift What's everyone's opinions on elise? I haven't seen one in game that wasn't a bot game and they'd feed the bots. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 31 2012 02:05 WirelessWaffle wrote: Cait is a crutch for double lift What's everyone's opinions on elise? I haven't seen one in game that wasn't a bot game and they'd feed the bots. Are you joking? DL plays a lot of the adc's. The only one I see him actively dislike playing is Ashe, and Kog. | ||
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
On October 31 2012 02:07 wei2coolman wrote: Are you joking? DL plays a lot of the adc's. The only one I see him actively dislike playing is Ashe, and Kog. Yes I was joking you fangirl XD | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:11 APurpleCow wrote: I've been trying to learn Irelia lately. Can anyone explain to me why pro builds have shifted away from phage+wit's end first towards TF first? Once you get Phage and Sheen and you time all your moves properly you get a ton of burst damage from sheen. At lvl 11 the Sheen proc is worth 89 bonus physical damage while two wits end hits are worth 84 magic damage. You get a sheen proc basically every two auto attacks and this allows you to go 9 into red tree for the physical penetration, and you can go 21 defense and skip out on the wits end for GA or just get a FoN if you really need MR plus more MS. Now if you land a Phage proc, you can basically 100-0 any squishy by timing your ultimate to maximize sheen procs with just phage and sheen. Wits end was good for the sustain synergy with Irelia's w but now that the isn't as strong you can go TF first. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
That said, I don't think Elise's kit has the same potential as Jayce's. Four of her abilities are all damage and no utility, leaving her with only a stun, a good one, for team synergy. I think in a few months we'll see more of her, but for now the difficulty of learning her combined with her weaknesses will quickly make her unpopular. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
she feels both slow and squishy, but she doesn't seem to make a good mid and she seems terrible in the jungle. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
EDIT: to clarify, because the other team can counterpick with Sona, and the teams generally didn't feel like using a ban on Sona when they can just use another support. | ||
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