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Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 26 2012 17:42 GMT
#3941
Okami-style painter champion
Draw symbols on ground to cast spells
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
September 26 2012 17:48 GMT
#3942
I don't usually do this, but honestly I feel its something really worth appreciating. For those of you who don't know about him, you should check out Zekent's stream. I wont argue that there aren't other players out there who are better, but the one absolutely amazing thing about this guys stream is he NEVER rages. Always calm and polite, good music, cool plays every now and then, but seriously, he takes this game so chill, I wish I could rage less too

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http://www.twitch.tv/zekent
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 17:50:24
September 26 2012 17:49 GMT
#3943
Anyone else here hate free Anivia week?

Anivia is one of my mains, so it frustrates me when other people on my team play her poorly.

I guess the one up side is this is the only week I can really practice my Anivia vs Anivia match up in normals.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 26 2012 18:05 GMT
#3944
How do you play anivia poorly?

Cast E, then R right after, chunk people's health down to nothing.
Must be hard to be an anivia player.

The only difficult combo is to toss the Q, then the wall, to default them into the Q, then activate Q for stun, then E, R combo.
liftlift > tsm
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 26 2012 18:06 GMT
#3945
On September 27 2012 03:05 wei2coolman wrote:
How do you play anivia poorly?

Cast E, then R right after, chunk people's health down to nothing.
Must be hard to be an anivia player.

The only difficult combo is to toss the Q, then the wall, to default them into the Q, then activate Q for stun, then E, R combo.

anivia is easily one of the most difficult casters to play in the game, wtf are you talking about.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
September 26 2012 18:08 GMT
#3946
On September 27 2012 03:05 wei2coolman wrote:
How do you play anivia poorly?

Cast E, then R right after, chunk people's health down to nothing.
Must be hard to be an anivia player.

The only difficult combo is to toss the Q, then the wall, to default them into the Q, then activate Q for stun, then E, R combo.

are you joking
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
September 26 2012 18:10 GMT
#3947
On September 27 2012 02:36 TheKefka wrote:
Or just let him have 3 different ults depending on which 2 elements you mix from your QWE skills.

You could simplify this by only needing to mix one element from one of your QWEs into your ult (still 3 combinations), then you realize you just made leblanc
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
September 26 2012 18:13 GMT
#3948
On September 27 2012 03:06 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 03:05 wei2coolman wrote:
How do you play anivia poorly?

Cast E, then R right after, chunk people's health down to nothing.
Must be hard to be an anivia player.

The only difficult combo is to toss the Q, then the wall, to default them into the Q, then activate Q for stun, then E, R combo.

anivia is easily one of the most difficult casters to play in the game, wtf are you talking about.

There is syndra now ^^

Or she is just trash lol
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 26 2012 18:14 GMT
#3949
On September 27 2012 03:13 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 03:06 Mogwai wrote:
On September 27 2012 03:05 wei2coolman wrote:
How do you play anivia poorly?

Cast E, then R right after, chunk people's health down to nothing.
Must be hard to be an anivia player.

The only difficult combo is to toss the Q, then the wall, to default them into the Q, then activate Q for stun, then E, R combo.

anivia is easily one of the most difficult casters to play in the game, wtf are you talking about.

There is syndra now ^^

Or she is just trash lol


Nah, good skill design, poor implementation.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 26 2012 18:22 GMT
#3950
On September 27 2012 02:49 NEOtheONE wrote:
Anyone else here hate free Anivia week?

Anivia is one of my mains, so it frustrates me when other people on my team play her poorly.

I guess the one up side is this is the only week I can really practice my Anivia vs Anivia match up in normals.

the solution is generally to either pick mid or anivia first or simply ban her

anivia mirrors don't have much to practice imo, laning phase consists of farming all day and not getting caught in a wall
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 18:30:17
September 26 2012 18:29 GMT
#3951
On September 27 2012 03:06 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 03:05 wei2coolman wrote:
How do you play anivia poorly?

Cast E, then R right after, chunk people's health down to nothing.
Must be hard to be an anivia player.

The only difficult combo is to toss the Q, then the wall, to default them into the Q, then activate Q for stun, then E, R combo.

anivia is easily one of the most difficult casters to play in the game, wtf are you talking about.

I don't understand this sentiment that any champions in this game are "hard to play", they're all fairly mechanically easy to play. The most nuances of champions usually revolve around some comboing of abilities, and maybe positioning, but other than that I don't understand the whole, "this champion is hard to play" (and maybe playstyle). The only time a champion is hard to play, is when you've got a bad matchup, and anivia doesn't really have many bad matchups for the most part.
liftlift > tsm
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 18:32:12
September 26 2012 18:30 GMT
#3952
Anivia's E is awfully short range compared to other casters, you can't "just cast it on them" (Similar range to Ryze, but Anivia isn't building like ryze, nor does she have a point-and-click guaranteed CC like Ryze/Annie) especially because....
She's got no mobility (300 base move speed, no movement skills), which means poor positioning is very punishable and people can "play scared" extremely effectively against you. Being aggressive with Anivia ends up relying very heavily on her two harder-to-use skills (Q and W) and can backfire VERY easily if you put these skills on cooldown to no effect.

Her hard CC can be difficult to hit because of how slow it is - to the point of relying on "enemy didn't dodge" more than "I aim well" unless you're casting from a blind spot or restricting their dodge paths with wall.

Her wall, when placed poorly, will be harmful for the Anivia player
When placed mediocre it will achieve very little. Most skills if you use them at least passably correctly, influence things only positively. Not so with Anivia's wall (even trundle's pillar is MUCH simpler to use, because it slows only enemies.)
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
September 26 2012 18:32 GMT
#3953
Why do people take solo queue ELO so seriously when it's a team game?
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
September 26 2012 18:34 GMT
#3954
On September 27 2012 01:29 Requizen wrote:
Thing I learned from Reddit: You know how you can tell a decoy clone (Wukong, Shaco, LB) from the real one, because the real one has buffs and items, right? Did you know the ping "targeting reticle" also sticks with the right target? So if you ping Shaco with no buffs, and he Ults, they look exactly the same - except the real one will still have the ping icon over their head.

Did not know that.


That's amazing.

I will now furiously ping all the Shacos all the time.
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bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
September 26 2012 18:35 GMT
#3955
On September 27 2012 03:32 IMoperator wrote:
Why do people take solo queue ELO so seriously when it's a team game?


Because there's a number attached to them now and because they invest so much time trying to raise that number.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 26 2012 18:38 GMT
#3956
On September 27 2012 03:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 03:06 Mogwai wrote:
On September 27 2012 03:05 wei2coolman wrote:
How do you play anivia poorly?

Cast E, then R right after, chunk people's health down to nothing.
Must be hard to be an anivia player.

The only difficult combo is to toss the Q, then the wall, to default them into the Q, then activate Q for stun, then E, R combo.

anivia is easily one of the most difficult casters to play in the game, wtf are you talking about.

I don't understand this sentiment that any champions in this game are "hard to play", they're all fairly mechanically easy to play. The most nuances of champions usually revolve around some comboing of abilities, and maybe positioning, but other than that I don't understand the whole, "this champion is hard to play" (and maybe playstyle). The only time a champion is hard to play, is when you've got a bad matchup, and anivia doesn't really have many bad matchups for the most part.

...And Anivia is a squishy caster with no escape skills that has one of the most positioning-dependent skills in the game.

Sure you have egg, but baiting properly with egg is a difficult skill in and of itself because it requires you to have a very good understanding of both how much damage the enemy champions can do to you, and how well your teammates can counter-engage while you are egged.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
September 26 2012 18:39 GMT
#3957
Yeah like every sport is a team game so what's the point of trying to get better at those?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 26 2012 18:44 GMT
#3958
On September 27 2012 03:10 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 02:36 TheKefka wrote:
Or just let him have 3 different ults depending on which 2 elements you mix from your QWE skills.

You could simplify this by only needing to mix one element from one of your QWEs into your ult (still 3 combinations), then you realize you just made leblanc


The idea that I had for a similar champ goes something like this:

QWE are all basic mage type spells. For example:

-Q is a single target nuke
-W is an AoE of some sort
-E is a utility spell

R, however, would be a sort of toggle, where each time you hit it, it shifts elements. Sort of like Jayce or Nidalee, where pressing it "shifts" your character. However, instead of changing your kit for each "shift", it just enhances each ability differently. Example as above:

-E changes utility based on element. E(Fire) increases damage by other fire spells (burns), E(water/ice) slows, E(Lightning) silences, E(Earth) debuffs Armor/MR
-Q nuke works differently, Q(Fire) does less initial but DoT's, Q(Water/Ice) has less of a cooldown, Q(Lightning) can jump to other targets, Q(Earth) does more damage if the target is stationary, etc.
-W(Fire) grows slowly, W(Water) pulls people towards the middle like a whirlpool, W(Earth) does more damage the more targets are in the circle, W(Lightning) does more damage the less targets are in the circle, etc.

Then maybe each element could work with each other in a different way. Using Ice/Water element Q or W would soak the target, making electric do more damage, what have you.

Would probably be too much "burden of knowledge", though.
It's your boy Guzma!
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
September 26 2012 18:44 GMT
#3959
On September 27 2012 03:39 Slayer91 wrote:
Yeah like every sport is a team game so what's the point of trying to get better at those?


He isn't saying that nobody should try to get better, he is saying that your ELO is a lot more dependent on what your team does in conjunction with you, not just you..

ELO was designed for 2 player games, not 5v5
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
September 26 2012 18:45 GMT
#3960
On September 27 2012 03:34 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 01:29 Requizen wrote:
Thing I learned from Reddit: You know how you can tell a decoy clone (Wukong, Shaco, LB) from the real one, because the real one has buffs and items, right? Did you know the ping "targeting reticle" also sticks with the right target? So if you ping Shaco with no buffs, and he Ults, they look exactly the same - except the real one will still have the ping icon over their head.

Did not know that.


That's amazing.

I will now furiously ping all the Shacos all the time.

wtf thats incredible. so if youre top vs wukong just leave your ping on him? awesome to know.
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