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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 26 2012 16:07 GMT
#3921
They even have the precedent for an ultimate changing your other abilities in the game so it could be done.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 16:09:53
September 26 2012 16:09 GMT
#3922
On September 27 2012 01:07 Numy wrote:
They even have the precedent for an ultimate changing your other abilities in the game so it could be done.


Play mid, bend ocean, giant water fish form too OP.

EDIT: Lol, Ult gives different elemental strength and ability based on what terrain you are standing on. Can't possibly work but would be ultra cool.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 26 2012 16:13 GMT
#3923
On September 27 2012 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 22:28 Numy wrote:
Just watching Doublelift dominate with Draven in soloQ and he mentions how it's only good in soloQ because he's not good in teamfights due to axe mechanics. This got me wondering if the rise of Corki/Ez and to a lesser extent grave has hurt ADC carry play more than it's really helped it. I mean you have ADC with super high mobility able to reposition quickly as a crutch for bad positioning so are these other carries "bad" because players are not using to having no crutch or is the respositioning needed. Furthermore is a guy like Draven really bad a teamfights or is he bad at teamfights because people don't have the mechanical ability to use him?


Also, can't wait for the inevitable DFG nerf. I just refuse to build it because I'm too hipster. I could play APs before everyone could get an OP 5th spell.

Plus I'm sick of seeing kat, teemo, and eve, so DFG nerf would help that problem


I don't think they'll nerf DFG too hard personally. At least not enough to stop people from building it on most APs.

I don't care much about Teemo/Eve but I am sick of Kat. Everytime I get one on my team they feed.
MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
September 26 2012 16:25 GMT
#3924
DFG so boringggg only damage but it's too efficient for the active + actual stats given from the item. squishfest is never fun gggg

I just want riot to not port spectre (SHE'S MINE!)

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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 26 2012 16:29 GMT
#3925
Thing I learned from Reddit: You know how you can tell a decoy clone (Wukong, Shaco, LB) from the real one, because the real one has buffs and items, right? Did you know the ping "targeting reticle" also sticks with the right target? So if you ping Shaco with no buffs, and he Ults, they look exactly the same - except the real one will still have the ping icon over their head.

Did not know that.
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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
September 26 2012 16:34 GMT
#3926
I don't get the dfg hate. It may be too strong, but at least there is some viable alternate itemization besides dcap rush. Certain champs use the raw AP better while others use the cdr and active better.

Also items with active abilities, even with straightforward uses, increase the skillcap. maybe only a little, but still I like it.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 26 2012 16:41 GMT
#3927
Hotshot been running tanky Viktor with Q augment and clarity...

I feel like he's just trolling the community to get people to play him that way
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 26 2012 16:44 GMT
#3928
On September 27 2012 01:34 petered wrote:
I don't get the dfg hate. It may be too strong, but at least there is some viable alternate itemization besides dcap rush. Certain champs use the raw AP better while others use the cdr and active better.

Also items with active abilities, even with straightforward uses, increase the skillcap. maybe only a little, but still I like it.


I think people just hate how limited the selection of items is. DFG is just emphasizing that even more.
MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
September 26 2012 16:49 GMT
#3929
Why don't you try it sonib huehuehue and see the power of the extra movespeeds~

zoomzoomviktor so fast
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23462 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 16:56:59
September 26 2012 16:50 GMT
#3930
On September 26 2012 22:27 Celial wrote:
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On September 26 2012 22:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
Carriers are not a short-term plan, in any matchup.

There's a reason you never see peole go 1 base carrier, they are just inadequate in a short-term build.


Holy fuck you made my day. And my original point. In a single post. I love you.

Also: Slayer91 states "Education doesn't make you smarter." The day is getting funnier and funnier.

The punchline for you guys: This grammar nazi is being presented to you by an original German. Anyway, I'm out partying.. Have an awesome day.


You were talking about not using the search box to find champs to ban, just looking on the list. So you're like OMFFFFFFRETARD GO BACK TO SCHOOL. As if taking Quantum mechanics and statistical physics is going to help them there?

Being educated doesn't magically make you better at everything, just at whatever field you're educated in. The average lawyer is going to know no more about physics than reginald and hotshot. (who are both "successful" businessmen at this point, though many call them morons from when they see their antics on stream)
The only reason you cite for why a streamer should have stayed in school is low viewership honestly. That's mostly what differentiates them aside from how good they are in their respective pro teams, except for the few who actually have built a brand (hs and regi with clgaming and solomid.net)
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 26 2012 16:56 GMT
#3931
Well I think that's actually not quite true. It's most likely a failure of our education system that it's that way. I think education should be a way of thinking and not specific content itself. Once you are able to learn one thing you should be able to apply that to almost any field. It's merely logic. Content is easy not to get once you have the logic capable of integrating it into your mind.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 26 2012 16:56 GMT
#3932
On September 27 2012 01:25 Milestone wrote:
DFG so boringggg only damage but it's too efficient for the active + actual stats given from the item. squishfest is never fun gggg


What about getting DFG instead of Deathcap and then some utility 2nd item like Abyssal/Rylais. DFG+Deathcap is like the most efficient raw AP/damage itemization but then you spend half the teamfight being scared of CC and just cast like 3 spells.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23462 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 17:07:22
September 26 2012 16:59 GMT
#3933
On September 27 2012 01:56 Numy wrote:
Well I think that's actually not quite true. It's most likely a failure of our education system that it's that way. I think education should be a way of thinking and not specific content itself. Once you are able to learn one thing you should be able to apply that to almost any field. It's merely logic. Content is easy not to get once you have the logic capable of integrating it into your mind.



That's critical thinking but you can learn that from trying to raise your elo in solo queue as far as i'm concerned. How fast and efficient your learning and analysis methods come from practicing learning and analysis and aren't specific to education.

For example you might say hotshot has no idea what he's doing with viktor but he's also one of the most successful guys in the LoL community does that make him smart or dumb? Or is it just related to the time he's spent thinking about viktor when the average forum member knows a lot more about him because sonivs hyped him up.

I mean the argument that the less known streamers have no future is possibly valid (cept if they made enough money to make it worthwhile they can always go back to school right) but that wasn't the point Celial was making at all he seems to be making some kind of a connection between "smart" (what does that mean anyway these days?) and university education and make no mistakes I'm a student but I don't think it makes me "smarter" or "dumber" than anyone else.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 26 2012 17:06 GMT
#3934
On September 27 2012 01:01 Numy wrote:
You know that would be fucking cool. Well a earthbending champ that is. In fact a series of avatar based champs would be so sick.

There was a red post a while back, I think by morello, saying that there would be a, paraphrasing, "controller of the elements" champion scheduled to come out this year.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23462 Posts
September 26 2012 17:08 GMT
#3935
That would be sick if it was like that invoker guy right where you can mix your QWER like say in the wheel of time to form spells.
aka Teutonica
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
September 26 2012 17:14 GMT
#3936
On September 26 2012 21:00 StateAlchemist wrote:
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On September 26 2012 20:45 Beyonder wrote:
On September 26 2012 16:32 IMoperator wrote:
Shit, just bought gragas yesterday and the guy's a monster. Got "countered" by Swain twice, beat them both times after I could farm with my Q. Insane aoe damage, and with DFG you can one shot just about anyone. How is he considered balanced?

EDIT: 4-0 with him so far. http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/32638477#history Also, you might notice that I like AP mid lol.

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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 26 2012 17:23 GMT
#3937
On September 27 2012 02:08 Slayer91 wrote:
That would be sick if it was like that invoker guy right where you can mix your QWER like say in the wheel of time to form spells.

yea, this is pretty much all I've ever wanted from LoL champions. It's the only idle champion idea I've had where I'll find myself staying awake at night trying to figure out how I'd want it implemented.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23462 Posts
September 26 2012 17:27 GMT
#3938
sounds like it would be broken as fuck with all the different abilities you have though maybe they can limit it somehow similar to the zyra seed activation mechanic so you can only add different utility to the spells.
aka Teutonica
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
September 26 2012 17:33 GMT
#3939
On September 27 2012 02:08 Slayer91 wrote:
That would be sick if it was like that invoker guy right where you can mix your QWER like say in the wheel of time to form spells.


If I recall correctly, Morello said he hated Invoker and said that he's not hard, and just a hero the adds a "burden of knowledge" or something stupid like that.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 26 2012 17:36 GMT
#3940
I don't think they will blatantly copy invoker and the way he works is too complicate for the design philosophy of LoL.
I think they will do something like a brand type ability interaction with this"controller of elements",so depending in which order you hit a spell you might get a different effect.
Or just let him have 3 different ults depending on which 2 elements you mix from your QWE skills.
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