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On July 07 2012 14:18 FoeHamr wrote: I am just gonna pray fox fire ahri is in this patch. Jayce looks kinda cool but im probably gonna skip him.
It's not in this patch. Maybe next patch.
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On July 07 2012 14:38 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 14:18 FoeHamr wrote: I am just gonna pray fox fire ahri is in this patch. Jayce looks kinda cool but im probably gonna skip him. It's not in this patch. Maybe next patch. Could be activated between patches?
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Wow. I really didn't expect a weekend patch
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When will Jayce be available? Want to buy.
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On July 07 2012 15:01 Requizen wrote: When will Jayce be available? Want to buy. He's on EUW :3
Want me to stream or do you want to obs practice games ^-^
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On July 07 2012 15:02 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 15:01 Requizen wrote: When will Jayce be available? Want to buy. He's on EUW :3 Want me to stream or do you want to obs practice games ^-^ Stream it for posterity. However, as soon as he's on NA, I'll abandon you like week old takeout.
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http://www.twitch.tv/shayuki
Quality kind of sucks >_>
However I'll try to show some Jayce comboes I think should be decent, also show his burst off :3 Again I don't think Chaox has learned to play him that well yet
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On July 07 2012 14:30 Shikyo wrote: Burst of 4 actually. You can auto 1 time and when you activate W you instantly attack again. Did they really make his W reset the autoattack timer?
Who the hell thought that was a good idea?
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On July 07 2012 14:38 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 14:18 FoeHamr wrote: I am just gonna pray fox fire ahri is in this patch. Jayce looks kinda cool but im probably gonna skip him. It's not in this patch. Maybe next patch. I am extremely sad right now.
I REALLLLLLLY want that Ahri skin.
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On July 07 2012 15:17 Shikyo wrote:http://www.twitch.tv/shayukiQuality kind of sucks >_> However I'll try to show some Jayce comboes I think should be decent, also show his burst off :3 Again I don't think Chaox has learned to play him that well yet
for his combo, is it possible to auto once in range form for the armor/mr debuff then go into the WRQ3x auto combo?
transform from melee-->ranged, come from the bushes, EQ, auto, W, RQWauto3xE, REQ autox3? guy is going to be a beast in the hands of someone good enough to do that in the heat of battle.
even though those were just bots, i'm pretty sure his entire kit is getting nerfed in the months after release.
enjoyed watching, thanks for that good sir.
And yes I fucked that combo up because you're supposed to auto once before activating W for the 3 autos.
you pulled it off a few times, got the general idea of how he flows in combat at least
Not sure why he needs passive mana restore on W, the only thing throttling this guy is mana
Btw people who say you need to focus on only one form are insane, swap them on cooldown.
I agree. even played in the AD bot role, I see a huge benefit to swapping to melee between waves, if only for the bonus when changing back to ranged.
Leona Jayce. #1 kill lane. Move over jarvan.
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On July 07 2012 15:31 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 14:38 overt wrote:On July 07 2012 14:18 FoeHamr wrote: I am just gonna pray fox fire ahri is in this patch. Jayce looks kinda cool but im probably gonna skip him. It's not in this patch. Maybe next patch. I am extremely sad right now. I REALLLLLLLY want that Ahri skin.
I hear you man. Ahri is quickly becoming my favorite champion. Even if I do poorly as her I don't really give a fuck because she's just so fun.
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On July 07 2012 15:29 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 14:30 Shikyo wrote: Burst of 4 actually. You can auto 1 time and when you activate W you instantly attack again. Did they really make his W reset the autoattack timer? Who the hell thought that was a good idea?
Yes.
No clue.
On July 07 2012 15:34 ItsFunToLose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 15:17 Shikyo wrote:http://www.twitch.tv/shayukiQuality kind of sucks >_> However I'll try to show some Jayce comboes I think should be decent, also show his burst off :3 Again I don't think Chaox has learned to play him that well yet for his combo, is it possible to auto once in range form for the armor/mr debuff then go into the WRQ3x auto combo?
Of course.
I also did the melee form WQ hit E R EQ W 3x auto combo once but I realized it's tough to do vs 2 bots at once. Either way hope you guys got something out of that, rather repetitive -.- I tried to use very few items but even with just 5 doran blades I oneshotted lvl 11 bots
And yes I fucked that combo up because you're supposed to auto once before activating W for the 3 autos.
Also this combo continues from the W and 3 autos straight into R QW hit hit E, and after about a second he already will be able to do REQ auto W autox3 again. You get the idea. And no you can't run from that because you get at least +30% movespeed from the wall so the 4 autos are guaranteed without cc.
Ranged Q through E also has like same range as Caitlyn ult I'd say.
Btw people who say you need to focus on only one form are insane, swap them on cooldown.
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On July 07 2012 15:36 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 15:29 TheYango wrote:On July 07 2012 14:30 Shikyo wrote: Burst of 4 actually. You can auto 1 time and when you activate W you instantly attack again. Did they really make his W reset the autoattack timer? Who the hell thought that was a good idea? Yes. No clue. Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 15:34 ItsFunToLose wrote:On July 07 2012 15:17 Shikyo wrote:http://www.twitch.tv/shayukiQuality kind of sucks >_> However I'll try to show some Jayce comboes I think should be decent, also show his burst off :3 Again I don't think Chaox has learned to play him that well yet for his combo, is it possible to auto once in range form for the armor/mr debuff then go into the WRQ3x auto combo? Of course. I also did the melee form WQ hit E R EQ W 3x auto combo once but I realized it's tough to do vs 2 bots at once. Either way hope you guys got something out of that, rather repetitive -.- I tried to use very few items but even with just 5 doran blades I oneshotted lvl 11 bots And yes I fucked that combo up because you're supposed to auto once before activating W for the 3 autos. Also this combo continues from the W and 3 autos straight into R QW hit hit E, and after about a second he already will be able to do REQ auto W autox3 again. You get the idea. And no you can't run from that because you get at least +30% movespeed from the wall so the 4 autos are guaranteed without cc. Ranged Q through E also has like same range as Caitlyn ult I'd say. Btw people who say you need to focus on only one form are insane, swap them on cooldown.
You mean people like... Phreak? =D
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Flexibility should be abused, not taken for granted. Since switching takes no mana, there's no reason not to constantly pick the right form for each and every situation.
Build wise, I think I'll probably get 2-3 DBlades and playing it by ear from there. If I need to carry hard, BT into GA maybe and go a Riven style build. If I need to bruiser it up, Phage/Hex into something perhaps. He can just abuse so many items, it looks like.
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The forms have perfect synergy with each other. Sounds funny, yes, but after doing the melee form combo and finishing it with E, the E knocks them back around 450 distance, which of course is perfect for his ranged attacks, and it stuns for around 0.5 seconds at the end of the knockback, perfectly comboing with his Q.
Then there's obviously the synergy that you can press W in ranged form, turn into melee form, and do the most OP piece of shit harrass in the game, WQ hit hit hit E. GL punishing that.
Oh yea forgot to mention, all 3 of those hits naturally restore mana for you so it's basically free.
HP seems naturally good on him, because Riot thought it'd be a good idea to give him free +35 mres and +35 armor.
Could probably even build tanky with mass CDR(Frozen Heart) because his E is balanced and W deals AoE damage over time. Considering the ranged W, maybe wits end or something could complement that style well.
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Will the buff to ionic spark make it worth it for shyvana??
applyin on hits to every thing in an aoe means it'll proc multiple times from a single twin bite in dragon form
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On July 07 2012 15:59 PrinceXizor wrote: Will the buff to ionic spark make it worth it for shyvana??
applyin on hits to every thing in an aoe means it'll proc multiple times from a single twin bite in dragon form
Pretty sure it doesn't work that way. Q hits twice, and ionic spark counts hits. I don't think it bugs out the same way tiamat does.
I believe twitch's ult does proc multiple ionic spark procs for each champion hit though
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On July 07 2012 15:59 PrinceXizor wrote: Will the buff to ionic spark make it worth it for shyvana??
applyin on hits to every thing in an aoe means it'll proc multiple times from a single twin bite in dragon form
A cool idea, I'll have to try it out. HP is also strong on Shyv because of her defensive steroids, so it synergizes with her kit extremely well.
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On July 07 2012 16:04 ItsFunToLose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 15:59 PrinceXizor wrote: Will the buff to ionic spark make it worth it for shyvana??
applyin on hits to every thing in an aoe means it'll proc multiple times from a single twin bite in dragon form
Pretty sure it doesn't work that way. Q hits twice, and ionic spark counts hits. I don't think it bugs out the same way tiamat does. I believe twitch's ult does proc multiple ionic spark procs for each champion hit though if you have madreds bloodrazer or wits end it applies the magic dmaage to every target in dragon form. i don't see why ionic spark works any differently, it's an on hit effect. it applies off Ezreals Q as well and GP gun, MF double up. ect.
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On July 07 2012 16:08 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 16:04 ItsFunToLose wrote:On July 07 2012 15:59 PrinceXizor wrote: Will the buff to ionic spark make it worth it for shyvana??
applyin on hits to every thing in an aoe means it'll proc multiple times from a single twin bite in dragon form
Pretty sure it doesn't work that way. Q hits twice, and ionic spark counts hits. I don't think it bugs out the same way tiamat does. I believe twitch's ult does proc multiple ionic spark procs for each champion hit though if you have madreds bloodrazer or wits end it applies the magic dmaage to every target in dragon form. i don't see why ionic spark works any differently, it's an on hit effect. it applies off Ezreals Q as well and GP gun, MF double up. ect.
I understand it applies onhit effects in dragon form. I'd be curious to see a video though, as I believe it might just count attacks instead of bursting out 5 procs in dragon form. I think you'd get 2 procs at most.
Example: Shyvana is in dragon form with (counting from 0) 3 attacks built up on ionic spark and Q's 4 minions and 2 champions. Her initial attack procs spark, resetting the counter to 0, her Q then cleaves 6 units, 123proc012. Shyvana procs ionic spark twice and is now sitting on 2 attacks built up.
at least that's my understanding of how it would work, I could be wrong and would love to see a video of shyvana shotting 8 bolts of lightning.
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If her first attack also cleaves(i think it does now that i think about it), then she effectively has 12 on-hit attacks, and would proc ionic spark 3 times, and once more on her next auto.
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