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Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
June 09 2012 00:46 GMT
#681
Morg is my default support, her ult lategame feels so much better than that of other supports especially if you can eventually get a zhonyas. Takes a bit but i can usually squeeze in 3k gold, and then your ult can win like every teamfight since they can't kill or ignore you.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
June 09 2012 01:12 GMT
#682
Uhm, is Darius somehow not free this week?

I see him with the "!" icon but I can't pick him. =S
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 09 2012 01:15 GMT
#683
Supports only get like 5k gold in a standard game. Maybe 7k in a longer one.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 09 2012 01:18 GMT
#684
On June 09 2012 10:12 r.Evo wrote:
Uhm, is Darius somehow not free this week?

I see him with the "!" icon but I can't pick him. =S

You can't pick free week champs in solo/duo queue, but other than that I dunno.
It's your boy Guzma!
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
June 09 2012 01:20 GMT
#685
You can't pick champs that you do not own in ranked games, including free week champs.

They're still pickable in normals. Not sure about premade 5 ranked.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 01:37:24
June 09 2012 01:36 GMT
#686
Damn, this change actually makes sense. Thought it makes you miss the really old days of free Teemo/Twitch/Eve weeks. =D

Edit: For banning, can I somehow see if the enemy team owns a free champ or not?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 09 2012 02:02 GMT
#687
Yes, you can't ban the champs they don't own because they don't appear in the list.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 02:10:53
June 09 2012 02:07 GMT
#688
Wrong thread.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 09 2012 02:09 GMT
#689
On June 09 2012 11:07 Alaric wrote:
Double shurelya being put to good use, they seem to always have one up when they went to catch somebody.

Wrong thread
It's your boy Guzma!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 03:20:42
June 09 2012 03:20 GMT
#690
Sho:

Proving Grounds (that one lane tutorial map) is being released for ARAMs:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=25107155

Euro player data got stolen:
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=724516
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 09 2012 03:24 GMT
#691
On June 09 2012 12:20 Craton wrote:
Sho:

Proving Grounds (that one lane tutorial map) is being released for ARAMs:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=25107155

Yay!

Euro player data got stolen:
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=724516

That sucks.
It's your boy Guzma!
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 03:32:53
June 09 2012 03:30 GMT
#692
On June 09 2012 09:03 Craton wrote:
Lux is a very, very weak support. She wins essentially no bottom lane matchups and loses most of them. She has a very limited ability to help her team, since about the most you can hope for in a team fight is to land a snare on a carry who is derping way out in front. Her shield is OK if you can actually hit multiple targets or multiple bounces and prevent damage with it, but that's really all she has.

You see her get played at very levels of play, even by "top" players, but she's always incredibly underwhelming.

Morg can be situationally good against a laner like Taric just to deny 80% of his usefulness.

My gut feeling is that Lux is very underrated and not played to her full potential in top tier play. I personally haven't touched Lux in months and I'm not near pro level of play, but her kit is amongst the best in terms of utility and teamfight control. If I had access to LoL now I would spam games and try defensive CDR support Lux with focus on catching the right snare and positioning of the slow in teamfights. I'd probably aim towards Shurelya's and Locket on her. On paper, she seems good with poke comps and probably works well with Varus botlane, playing passively unless an opening arises.

Edit: The main reason I have a feeling that Lux is underrated is because of her double snare. Disabling the movement of two champions in a 5v5 teamfight can be game-changing. Her positional play with her slow is also very strong, and her ability to shield the entire team before entering into a teamfight is great as well of course.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 09 2012 03:35 GMT
#693
People have played her a lot as mid. Chu8 plays her a lot, as does one other more notable mid I'm forgetting.
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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
June 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#694
On June 09 2012 10:20 Cloud9157 wrote:
You can't pick champs that you do not own in ranked games, including free week champs.

They're still pickable in normals. Not sure about premade 5 ranked.


You can pick them in premade ranked 5s because friends are allowed to troll friends.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 04:54:00
June 09 2012 04:47 GMT
#695
What do you guys think about Draven bruiser top rather than AD carry?

EDIT: Sorry just saw a few pages ago same question...

What about that Siv HD Counter Bruiser Bruiser Lux?

Is that in any way viable?
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
June 09 2012 04:54 GMT
#696
Quick question regarding a problem.

Is there a way to repatch the game, not just run the repair? I've been having a problem since this most recent patch and I really don't want to do a full redownload/install, so if there's a way to roll it back and redownload the patch then repatch it, I'd like to try that first.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 05:08:19
June 09 2012 05:07 GMT
#697
Man, spectating LoCicero a Draven top just ate his team alive... looked like the game was over since Loci's team was dominating team fights and took baron, then out of no where Draven pulls out a qudra thanks to a good Amumu ult, and then he just ate everyone alive with Zilean's speed buff plus blood rush.

Although to be fair, their Alistar was chasing a useless Twitch instead of CCing Draven...
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
June 09 2012 05:58 GMT
#698
On June 09 2012 12:35 Craton wrote:
People have played her a lot as mid. Chu8 plays her a lot, as does one other more notable mid I'm forgetting.

Roku did some crazy pewpewing with Lux before joining Riot, and Loci's is pretty good too
Harrow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States245 Posts
June 09 2012 06:01 GMT
#699
On June 09 2012 05:22 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 05:18 wei2coolman wrote:
The only design perspective of Draven that sorta irks me, is that as a champion it feels as if Riot decided to design champion mechanics first, then incorporate everything else later (such as lore, looks, etc etc). That's why draven has unique abilities/skills but feels sort of flat as a character.

I actually think he's neat as a character, especially opposed to his brother Darius. Darius is serious and what not, and all of his abilities are functional and what not. Draven is designed to be a flashy showman who chases down people and hurls axes at their face, and his kit works with that very, very well. Whether the abilities or lore came first doesn't really matter, I just personally think it works.


Art, Gameplay Design and Creative Design all work in parallel to try and ensure the package is cohesive. The weapon-juggling mechanic in particular was developed and refined with Draven's flashy, egotistical, style-obsessed personality in mind. Pretty cool to see you think it's worked out.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 09 2012 06:02 GMT
#700
On June 09 2012 14:58 Flakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 12:35 Craton wrote:
People have played her a lot as mid. Chu8 plays her a lot, as does one other more notable mid I'm forgetting.

Roku did some crazy pewpewing with Lux before joining Riot, and Loci's is pretty good too

No, I'm pretty sure it's an active player on one of the better teams. I don't remember who.
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