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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
June 02 2012 05:35 GMT
#1821
Wtf is with all the GPs lately. Haven't seen one in forever and all of a sudden hes back!
Never Knows Best.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 02 2012 05:42 GMT
#1822
On June 02 2012 14:25 Craton wrote:
Make graves vision reduction be about 3x less than it is, so you see in a much wider radius beyond the screen but not complete vision. Greatly removes the anti-fun uncounterable aspect while making it much less overpowered.

Darius is fixed by making ult physical damage and kills reduce cd by ~20-30 seconds and probably reducing passive damage as well.

Ahri change will probably end up being a buff that she doesn't need. Doubt making her slightly squishier but giving her more damage is going to balance things.



Yeah, it denies so much sight. SoloQ very much decided by which team more together anyway, when you have a low CD abillity that denies you the ability to see what your teammates are actually doing is silly strong.

Honestly I think Graves W stronger than Nocturne ult.... and it has a lower CD with like virtually no mana cost.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 02 2012 05:53 GMT
#1823
people at 1300-1400 are definitely more angry and talk more shit than higher elo
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
June 02 2012 05:57 GMT
#1824
I've had really nice people in my ranked games. Have not done well, but they seemed pretty nice which is more then I can say in non-ranked.

Seems like casters top is the thing again with people like Swain,Vlad and Kennen on the popularity rise throw in Rumble and you got yourself a lethal set of ap tops. I am sure I am forgetting someone important from this list...
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
June 02 2012 06:00 GMT
#1825
Obviously it's cause they're in Elo hell and it's all their teammates faults and their teammates should uninstall the game for "not being on their level."
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
June 02 2012 06:11 GMT
#1826
This game isn't meant to be played for fun. It's a game that you play to win. That's my belief of why people get so angry at this game.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 06:33:43
June 02 2012 06:11 GMT
#1827
On June 02 2012 14:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
people at 1300-1400 are definitely more angry and talk more shit than higher elo


Its the reason I just uninstalled the game and have decided to just watch pros. Game isn't fun anymore and normals are just as bad. The real secret is that the whole game is elo hell.
Never Knows Best.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17305 Posts
June 02 2012 06:14 GMT
#1828
I play at both 1300-1400s and 1900-2000s. People piss and moan about how good they are / how bad everyone else is just the same in both. At least with the latter set they're usually somewhat decent.
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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
June 02 2012 06:14 GMT
#1829
LOL Aphromoo too strong!
Go go Alliance.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 02 2012 06:42 GMT
#1830
QQ is so bad because 1 bad player has so much more of an effect on the game than 1 good player
you can be 10% better than your lane opponent, and your top lane can be 10% better than their lane opponent
but if your AD is 20% worse than their AD (same cumulative skill throughout the teams is my point here), your AD is going to get shit on so hard and completely shut out of the game. that's why people get so mad. you can be better than the elo you're at and still not advance because your teammates aren't

obviously, over time this goes away yada yada yada, it doesn't mean there aren't streaks where people have good games and still lose every game

i just mean it's obvious why people get mad. team games are hard
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 06:57:50
June 02 2012 06:57 GMT
#1831
On June 02 2012 15:42 gtrsrs wrote:
QQ is so bad because 1 bad player has so much more of an effect on the game than 1 good player
you can be 10% better than your lane opponent, and your top lane can be 10% better than their lane opponent
but if your AD is 20% worse than their AD (same cumulative skill throughout the teams is my point here), your AD is going to get shit on so hard and completely shut out of the game. that's why people get so mad. you can be better than the elo you're at and still not advance because your teammates aren't

obviously, over time this goes away yada yada yada, it doesn't mean there aren't streaks where people have good games and still lose every game

i just mean it's obvious why people get mad. team games are hard


It is hard and its harder when you get a streak of lets say 10 games that you lose everyone of them. Some you play like shit and let your team down, some you play awesome and you still lose, and sometimes your team gets handicapped by troll/afks/whatever. The only thing that doesn't change in those 10 games is that someone in the game is going to be an asshole. An honest to goodness asshole and thats the minimum.

Seriously I can count on 1 hand the number of games where everyone was manner and it was an enjoyable game all around....in probably about 500 ranked games this season.
Never Knows Best.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
June 02 2012 06:59 GMT
#1832
On June 02 2012 14:25 Craton wrote:]
Ahri change will probably end up being a buff that she doesn't need. Doubt making her slightly squishier but giving her more damage is going to balance things.


It's not a buff at all - you need 300 AP to balance out the reduced base damage on Spirit Rush and 800 AP to balance out FoxFire at level 5.
Ahris are going to do more damage now, because they're going to actually build deathcaps before their 3rd or 4th item.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 02 2012 07:08 GMT
#1833
On June 02 2012 15:59 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 14:25 Craton wrote:]
Ahri change will probably end up being a buff that she doesn't need. Doubt making her slightly squishier but giving her more damage is going to balance things.


It's not a buff at all - you need 300 AP to balance out the reduced base damage on Spirit Rush and 800 AP to balance out FoxFire at level 5.
Ahris are going to do more damage now, because they're going to actually build deathcaps before their 3rd or 4th item.

tbh ahri builds probably won't deviate much from the rylais, revolver/wota, abyssal core. Ahri needs to be pretty close to the enemy team to do damage so the tanky stats from those three items is something players just won't want to pass up. Ahris were already getting Dcap as their 4th or 5th item, but the issue is that most games don't last long enough to get your 4th+ item most of the time.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 07:31:27
June 02 2012 07:30 GMT
#1834
nevermind...
Carrilord has arrived.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
June 02 2012 08:17 GMT
#1835
On June 02 2012 15:42 gtrsrs wrote:
QQ is so bad because 1 bad player has so much more of an effect on the game than 1 good player
you can be 10% better than your lane opponent, and your top lane can be 10% better than their lane opponent
but if your AD is 20% worse than their AD (same cumulative skill throughout the teams is my point here), your AD is going to get shit on so hard and completely shut out of the game. that's why people get so mad. you can be better than the elo you're at and still not advance because your teammates aren't

obviously, over time this goes away yada yada yada, it doesn't mean there aren't streaks where people have good games and still lose every game

i just mean it's obvious why people get mad. team games are hard

Wish people wouldn't rage so much though. Makes me play like shit ;_;
BW -> League -> CSGO
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 02 2012 08:26 GMT
#1836
On June 02 2012 15:14 Craton wrote:
I play at both 1300-1400s and 1900-2000s. People piss and moan about how good they are / how bad everyone else is just the same in both. At least with the latter set they're usually somewhat decent.


definitely worse at lower elo
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 08:36:50
June 02 2012 08:35 GMT
#1837
Nevermind, already posted.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 02 2012 09:01 GMT
#1838
Dunno if it's been posted yet but I thought Locodoco joined the B team of Xenicx Storm but apparently he joined Startale?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 02 2012 09:38 GMT
#1839
Anyone elses client being really buggy?

Twice in the last three games I have been unable to pick anything...
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
June 02 2012 09:54 GMT
#1840
Funnily enough, I explained it to BP2 just yesterday. Bad people rage more because far more often, they also blame others for their own mistakes.

Concrete example: There's always the win lane lose game comments, but baddies also make the "WHERE R TEAM?" "Y U HALP' rage when they get caught 1v3.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
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