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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
May 13 2012 06:42 GMT
#2881
On May 13 2012 15:23 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 15:02 Inflicted_ wrote:
On May 13 2012 14:12 UniversalSnip wrote:
Even though dumbasses on your team might yell at you for 'focusing the tank' there's no way you can just ignore him and target their squishies.


Things bad players who are idiots say constantly:

- "We have no tank"
- "Don't focus the tank"
- "GG they got X" (in champ select)
- "I carry so hard"
- "So it takes four of you to kill me huh"
- "Focus ashe"


What's wrong with asking your team to try and stack their CCs onto the carry?

Most of the time, it's the jungler + melees (sometimes AP depending on the champ) who are doing any focusing, and it's fine telling them they should focus on the enemy carries instead of protecting/peeling for the ADs.

If you can chain CC and instant jib the AD carry its ok. But if you cant and 2-3 of your people get kited, the people behind you will get blow away by enemy team and they will turn back and sandwich your remaining members.

Oh god, this happens so much..
Teamfighting is so crazy at 1400's. I'm sure I'm not helping either
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
May 13 2012 06:53 GMT
#2882
If you have one of the better late game AD's (trist/kog etc.) then I like just ordering my team to protect them at all costs. Sure there are better ways to team fight but there is nothing better for solo-queue than insta-gibbing that retarded irelia or something and winning 5v4. Focus at all is a hundred times more important than focus a carry.

Plus its surprisingly easy to convince people to peel for their AD, as long as you don't directly word it as "focus olaf" or something. Also since I play a ton of lulu everywhere nowadays I have the best peeling in the game. :D
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
deskscaress
Profile Joined May 2011
United States399 Posts
May 13 2012 07:02 GMT
#2883
On May 13 2012 08:27 Chrispy wrote:
So I just realized something..

A couple of months ago I had randomly got 2000 riot points and I had no idea why.. eventually I just accepted that I randomly got 2000 Riot points for free and moved on. But it JUST occured to me as I was in the shower that I may have received a champion bundle for some reason. Anyways so I looked at my profile and found out that I have both the Sejuani skins (I had bought Sejuani with IP when she came out).

So anybody care to guess as to why I got the Sejuani bundle + 2k RP?

:o


Didn't you play on a Canadian team in a high profile tourney a couple months ago or even longer? RIOT usually rewards those teams with a couple thousand RP, but it usually takes weeks or months to get the compensation
would you ever miss it?
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 13 2012 07:23 GMT
#2884
chrispy the famous canadian
:)
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 13 2012 07:45 GMT
#2885
i think people generally still hit tanks way too much
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
May 13 2012 08:35 GMT
#2886
I'd very surprised if even half of LoL's population knew what peeling was, and how to do it.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 13 2012 08:38 GMT
#2887
On May 13 2012 15:02 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 14:12 UniversalSnip wrote:
Even though dumbasses on your team might yell at you for 'focusing the tank' there's no way you can just ignore him and target their squishies.


Things bad players who are idiots say constantly:

- "We have no tank"
- "Don't focus the tank"
- "GG they got X" (in champ select)
- "I carry so hard"
- "So it takes four of you to kill me huh"
- "Focus ashe"


What's wrong with asking your team to try and stack their CCs onto the carry?

Most of the time, it's the jungler + melees (sometimes AP depending on the champ) who are doing any focusing, and it's fine telling them they should focus on the enemy carries instead of protecting/peeling for the ADs.


good luck diving their ashe lololol
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 09:18:56
May 13 2012 09:11 GMT
#2888
edit: why am i so dumb...
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
May 13 2012 09:14 GMT
#2889
On May 13 2012 18:11 UniversalSnip wrote:
What the fuck? I was just spectating a game and I saw blitz GAIN 25 mana when he used powerfist. I couldn't figure how he had enough for all his spells so I went back and watched it repeatedly in 0.25 speed and suddenly his mana went from 75 to 100 and he had exactly enough to grab a few seconds later for the kill.

Probably just a bug of spectator mode. I've seen people with 3 more deaths than they actually have.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 09:25:36
May 13 2012 09:16 GMT
#2890
actually upon more careful examination he leveled up -_-
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 09:50:13
May 13 2012 09:46 GMT
#2891
On May 13 2012 16:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think people generally still hit tanks way too much

It takes a decent amount of experience and knowledge to properly estimate your survivability and damage against theirs so you as the ad/ap carry can slip past the tank/bruiser and kill their carry,especially mid game when most bruisers can dominate carry's because the items didn't kick in yet.
On the other hand you bruiser/tank needs to be able to estimate when you need to be covered instead of him diving their carries while you are getting murdered by their front line.
"Dont hit the tank" is such a oversimplification in most situations.
Cackle™
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 13 2012 10:18 GMT
#2892
On May 13 2012 18:46 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 16:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think people generally still hit tanks way too much

It takes a decent amount of experience and knowledge to properly estimate your survivability and damage against theirs so you as the ad/ap carry can slip past the tank/bruiser and kill their carry,especially mid game when most bruisers can dominate carry's because the items didn't kick in yet.
On the other hand you bruiser/tank needs to be able to estimate when you need to be covered instead of him diving their carries while you are getting murdered by their front line.
"Dont hit the tank" is such a oversimplification in most situations.


Pretty much all the champs I play though like diving squishies for the most part =(. Olaf, irelia, nocturne all like diving squishies and ripping them apart when they can't run with a combination of randuins and phage proc. Then when I play stuff like udyr or mundo I fail quite miserably at teamfighting. I think when you consciously have to make a choice and pick either peeling or diving because of positioning is when it gets really, really difficult.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 13 2012 10:30 GMT
#2893
On May 13 2012 16:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think people generally still hit tanks way too much

I think its the opposite. People are to focused on squishies when they can just pop Udyr/Irelia/Shyvana.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
May 13 2012 10:58 GMT
#2894
On May 13 2012 19:18 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 18:46 TheKefka wrote:
On May 13 2012 16:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think people generally still hit tanks way too much

It takes a decent amount of experience and knowledge to properly estimate your survivability and damage against theirs so you as the ad/ap carry can slip past the tank/bruiser and kill their carry,especially mid game when most bruisers can dominate carry's because the items didn't kick in yet.
On the other hand you bruiser/tank needs to be able to estimate when you need to be covered instead of him diving their carries while you are getting murdered by their front line.
"Dont hit the tank" is such a oversimplification in most situations.


Pretty much all the champs I play though like diving squishies for the most part =(. Olaf, irelia, nocturne all like diving squishies and ripping them apart when they can't run with a combination of randuins and phage proc. Then when I play stuff like udyr or mundo I fail quite miserably at teamfighting. I think when you consciously have to make a choice and pick either peeling or diving because of positioning is when it gets really, really difficult.


Peeling importance is quite dependant on the enemy team. Especially champs like noc/olaf/irelia are really hard to deal with for a ad/ap carry alone but die amazingly fast if your team turns on them the moment they dive on your backline. Ofcourse squishies die faster IF everyone hits them at the same time. But a properly positioned ap/ad won't be open to a entire teams focus the way a champ diving for your backline carries is.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
May 13 2012 11:34 GMT
#2895
real surprise, wickd still plays irelia
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 13 2012 11:36 GMT
#2896
On May 13 2012 20:34 Woony wrote:
real surprise, wickd still plays irelia

He does since the latest buff again.

We are talking about lower bracket final of TSM Eu invitational btw.
TSM vs CLGeu.

http://clgaming.net/live/6910-tsmtournaments



Off-season = best season
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
May 13 2012 11:38 GMT
#2897
OLAF SO BALANCED
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 13 2012 11:39 GMT
#2898
On May 13 2012 20:38 Woony wrote:
OLAF SO BALANCED


Protip, pick Volibear.

That matchup so one sided.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
May 13 2012 11:39 GMT
#2899
I guess that's why they call it reckless swing huehuehue.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
May 13 2012 11:45 GMT
#2900
well CLG.eu is getting stomped
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