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On March 04 2012 12:01 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
I hope they don't stream themselves putting a couch together in the korean apartment ^^
I've been making a list of things to try when I'm less afraid of exams. Has anyone tried out vamp scepter quints? I know they're probably not cost efficient as far as runes go (half a vamp scepter) but I still think it might be a good idea. I really want to try them. What's people's opinion on lifesteal and spell vamp quints as a whole?
Viable on junglers? Better or worse than hp regen? Better or worse than arpen/aspd? Spellpen ok on kennen?
Honestly, what's the point on junglers? Most of the common junglers don't really get low clearing in the new jungle anyway. They might be a reasonable alternative to resist quints if people were actually using resist quints on junglers, but pretty much every jungler uses MS quints or offensive stat quints anyway (the exception being a few junglers like Rammus and Malphite--who use defensive quints because their spells specifically scale off defensive stats).
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On March 04 2012 12:06 BlackPaladin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 11:59 Ruken wrote:
So apparently Hotshot got his GF, Bekuh preggers? Where did you hear that? o.e
Quite a rumour that it is..
I don't feel vamp quints are worth it. You need the damage over the sustain and most junglers don't have a problem living in the jungle. Though I am sure you could come up with some wacky jungler idea's using those quints.
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Man, I just havent been having any fun at all lately. I haven't been able to play with my friends so I've been working on getting a main account up to decent ELO. I got it from 900 ELO up to 1400 pretty quick (like 3 days), but the last 4 days I had a big streak of really terrible luck and went back to 1270, and I cant seen to fucking get up again.
I'm not even enjoying myself playing at this ELO, the games are just basically decided by which team is less absolutely retarded. If I win I dont even feel good about it. Its not fun to play when most of the time people have no rhyme or reason to their movement around the map. I feel like the team just wanders around for 40 minutes and then teamfights randomly with no throught.
If someone is pushing top, everyone goes top, even if we cant save the turret and dragon is up. If we pick their AD, people go off to farm and buy instead of forcing a fight or taking an objective. Theres no mental aspect to these games and it sucks the enjoyment right out of it for me.
I'm not worried about ELO hell or anything, but I really don't enjoy playing like this. Its just such a richer gaming experience when you actually have some sort of overarching idea of strategy. I feel like I'm playing SC and both players are just 6pooling each over and over again and just pumping lings at each other till one keels over while refusing to tech or expand....
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The easiest way to fix that is to just become the leader of your team. Call plays constantly and even if they follow up on a fraction of them, thats a fraction more than the other team.
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So some guy played just annie on an account from level 1-30. The findings are interesting with an overall ~70% win ratio but I have to throw them out because he played arranged 5's with people from reddit and people he found ALL the time. I'm guessing you just have to find good players, add them, and queue with them to have a good win ratio ( no leavers, no bm, no dcs). Then take advantage of the enemy team that has duo and tri-queuers. You can't do this in ranked though.
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/qg3pb/level_130_experimentstatscomplete/
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On March 04 2012 12:50 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:So some guy played just annie on an account from level 1-30. The findings are interesting with an overall ~70% win ratio but I have to throw them out because he played arranged 5's with people from reddit and people he found ALL the time. I'm guessing you just have to find good players, add them, and queue with them to have a good win ratio ( no leavers, no bm, no dcs). Then take advantage of the enemy team that has duo and tri-queuers. You can't do this in ranked though. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/qg3pb/level_130_experimentstatscomplete/
I like the part where he says the annie buffs let him go from 1300 to 2k, then when she got nerfed he went back to 1700. And then states that he believes they are related.
Well no shit their related. Thats what happens when you are a 1 hit wonder and your champion gets overbuffed.
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On March 04 2012 12:40 sob3k wrote:
Man, I just havent been having any fun at all lately. I haven't been able to play with my friends so I've been working on getting a main account up to decent ELO. I got it from 900 ELO up to 1400 pretty quick (like 3 days), but the last 4 days I had a big streak of really terrible luck and went back to 1270, and I cant seen to fucking get up again.
I'm not even enjoying myself playing at this ELO, the games are just basically decided by which team is less absolutely retarded. If I win I dont even feel good about it. Its not fun to play when most of the time people have no rhyme or reason to their movement around the map. I feel like the team just wanders around for 40 minutes and then teamfights randomly with no throught.
If someone is pushing top, everyone goes top, even if we cant save the turret and dragon is up. If we pick their AD, people go off to farm and buy instead of forcing a fight or taking an objective. Theres no mental aspect to these games and it sucks the enjoyment right out of it for me.
I'm not worried about ELO hell or anything, but I really don't enjoy playing like this. Its just such a richer gaming experience when you actually have some sort of overarching idea of strategy. I feel like I'm playing SC and both players are just 6pooling each over and over again and just pumping lings at each other till one keels over while refusing to tech or expand....
I feel your pain : /.
You forgot one scenario. You have a lead and their team splits in your jungle. No one initiates and then someone says play D  . GP then uses his utli on the cs across the map.
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On March 04 2012 13:24 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 12:50 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:So some guy played just annie on an account from level 1-30. The findings are interesting with an overall ~70% win ratio but I have to throw them out because he played arranged 5's with people from reddit and people he found ALL the time. I'm guessing you just have to find good players, add them, and queue with them to have a good win ratio ( no leavers, no bm, no dcs). Then take advantage of the enemy team that has duo and tri-queuers. You can't do this in ranked though. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/qg3pb/level_130_experimentstatscomplete/ I like the part where he says the annie buffs let him go from 1300 to 2k, then when she got nerfed he went back to 1700. And then states that he believes they are related. Well no shit their related. Thats what happens when you are a 1 hit wonder and your champion gets overbuffed.
Saw your description of the link, KNEW it was Damionwings. When I saw it was a link to Reddit I started cracking up.
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On March 04 2012 13:32 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 13:24 Two_DoWn wrote:On March 04 2012 12:50 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:So some guy played just annie on an account from level 1-30. The findings are interesting with an overall ~70% win ratio but I have to throw them out because he played arranged 5's with people from reddit and people he found ALL the time. I'm guessing you just have to find good players, add them, and queue with them to have a good win ratio ( no leavers, no bm, no dcs). Then take advantage of the enemy team that has duo and tri-queuers. You can't do this in ranked though. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/qg3pb/level_130_experimentstatscomplete/ I like the part where he says the annie buffs let him go from 1300 to 2k, then when she got nerfed he went back to 1700. And then states that he believes they are related. Well no shit their related. Thats what happens when you are a 1 hit wonder and your champion gets overbuffed. Saw your description of the link, KNEW it was Damionwings. When I saw it was a link to Reddit I started cracking up.
How bad is he?
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I think I remember him from our TL troll inhouses where he'd play Annie.
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On March 04 2012 13:47 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 13:32 HazMat wrote:On March 04 2012 13:24 Two_DoWn wrote:On March 04 2012 12:50 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:So some guy played just annie on an account from level 1-30. The findings are interesting with an overall ~70% win ratio but I have to throw them out because he played arranged 5's with people from reddit and people he found ALL the time. I'm guessing you just have to find good players, add them, and queue with them to have a good win ratio ( no leavers, no bm, no dcs). Then take advantage of the enemy team that has duo and tri-queuers. You can't do this in ranked though. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/qg3pb/level_130_experimentstatscomplete/ I like the part where he says the annie buffs let him go from 1300 to 2k, then when she got nerfed he went back to 1700. And then states that he believes they are related. Well no shit their related. Thats what happens when you are a 1 hit wonder and your champion gets overbuffed. Saw your description of the link, KNEW it was Damionwings. When I saw it was a link to Reddit I started cracking up. How bad is he?
Reddit tourney semifinals. We face his team so obv we ban Annie. He goes Brand and I fb him at lvl 2 as Orianna. I go like 17-0 from there on lol. He legit can't play anything else.
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On March 04 2012 13:47 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 13:32 HazMat wrote:On March 04 2012 13:24 Two_DoWn wrote:On March 04 2012 12:50 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:So some guy played just annie on an account from level 1-30. The findings are interesting with an overall ~70% win ratio but I have to throw them out because he played arranged 5's with people from reddit and people he found ALL the time. I'm guessing you just have to find good players, add them, and queue with them to have a good win ratio ( no leavers, no bm, no dcs). Then take advantage of the enemy team that has duo and tri-queuers. You can't do this in ranked though. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/qg3pb/level_130_experimentstatscomplete/ I like the part where he says the annie buffs let him go from 1300 to 2k, then when she got nerfed he went back to 1700. And then states that he believes they are related. Well no shit their related. Thats what happens when you are a 1 hit wonder and your champion gets overbuffed. Saw your description of the link, KNEW it was Damionwings. When I saw it was a link to Reddit I started cracking up. How bad is he?
If he plays annie he can do really well.
Otherwise he makes YOU look like the best player who ever played this game. >.>
edit: beat by haz mat lol
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i dont get how you beat anyone as annie if the other team isnt retarded. only thing she has going for her is the crazy lvl 1-3 harass, but most junglers can just lvl 2 gank your ass and you are now fucked for the rest of the game pretty much.
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Annie is actually pretty good. She has a few bad matchups mid, but then again so do a lot of champions. She still has one of the best burst combos in the game, and she does have some of the best area control in the game because of the threat her ult gives her.
@ The other discussion- like how do you not get better with anyone else though. Presumably SOMETHING had to carry over from Annie onto other champions. Unless, of course, he really just IS that bad.
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What? Her early harass is average and about on par with a number of mages. Her strength is her huge aoe stun/burst with her passive + tibbers/w. You can win a fight just by stun+comboing 2 soft targets.
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AP TF shits on Annie. She can't contend with his 4 sec CD stun.
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i don't really understand how those buffs/nerfs are worth 300 elo. doesn't sound plausible to me
i dont' have an alternative theory but I'm not seeing that in the champ changes
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On March 04 2012 12:07 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 12:01 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
I hope they don't stream themselves putting a couch together in the korean apartment ^^
I've been making a list of things to try when I'm less afraid of exams. Has anyone tried out vamp scepter quints? I know they're probably not cost efficient as far as runes go (half a vamp scepter) but I still think it might be a good idea. I really want to try them. What's people's opinion on lifesteal and spell vamp quints as a whole?
Viable on junglers? Better or worse than hp regen? Better or worse than arpen/aspd? Spellpen ok on kennen? Honestly, what's the point on junglers? Most of the common junglers don't really get low clearing in the new jungle anyway. They might be a reasonable alternative to resist quints if people were actually using resist quints on junglers, but pretty much every jungler uses MS quints or offensive stat quints anyway (the exception being a few junglers like Rammus and Malphite--who use defensive quints because their spells specifically scale off defensive stats).
Theoretically if you had a jungler whose only problem was sustain survivability quints could be used to patch that up. Whether Lifesteal Quints solve the problem or are the best option depends on the potential jungler.
I'm not aware of any such champions at the moment, but then it's not like we haven't been ignorant of viable options before.
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On March 04 2012 14:06 Glaceau wrote:
i dont get how you beat anyone as annie if the other team isnt retarded. only thing she has going for her is the crazy lvl 1-3 harass, but most junglers can just lvl 2 gank your ass and you are now fucked for the rest of the game pretty much.
wat. Her level 1-3 is where most APs who she struggles against shit on her. Her golden stage is from level 6 until enemy squishies start getting shit like BV. Annie will still sometimes get played at high elo and she was pretty popular in tournament play until not very long ago. She's just another champion who fell out of popularity but her laning phase and mid-late game strength is pretty solid.
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