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The Champions Feedback Thread

General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
April 25 2012 11:34 GMT
#3521
On April 25 2012 20:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:30 storkfan wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:29 storkfan wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:28 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:27 storkfan wrote:
OMG loco is so smart why isnt he a high lvl player?

If you're serious I'm gonna slap your shit

slap my butt baby. seriously? ive never heard, can anyone elaborate

what

go on, spank it.

Openly gay displays not associated with Loco go here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100673

IMO nothing wrong with guys enjoying each others butts for slaps and stuff. But Its about Why loco isnt talked about more
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 11:36:01
April 25 2012 11:34 GMT
#3522
On April 25 2012 20:32 luckybeni2 wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:24 storkfan wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:23 Yiruru wrote:
I so proud of u docoloco :3

MiG B playing better than MiG A were playing 8 months ago on NA, korean training too op

agree d its sick.. korea is atm becoming #1 in LoL too, sad to see west go down

Europe and NA is still ahead of them easily. CLG had a pretty bad comp from the beginning and they aren't really good at forcing early game advantages to make up for their mediocre lategame. This is basically what they did in the first game of the group stages and I have no idea why they have to give themselves that disadvantage. In terms of skill level there are mabe 3 teams in Asia that I have seen that have a chance against the top 10 teams of EU/NA. And I dont think they are as good as M5 or CLG.eu or an in form CLG.na

Not yet, I agree, but the fact that one country can have this many top teams is pretty scary. This is MiG's B team after all taking down a team that's top 3 in NA. And if you listened to CLG's blogs you'd hear that they did incredibly bad in scrims until they adjusted, and this was leading up to IPL 4. They've vouched for the korean teams and I'll believe them since I think CLG is one of the best teams in scrims.
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
April 25 2012 11:35 GMT
#3523
On April 25 2012 20:30 StUfF wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:29 DanielZKlein wrote:
Re: Moletrap explaining what the word CC means: this is absolutely necessary and really, really well done from him. Yeah, I know, you guys are all pros and you know the game and the lingo inside out, but there are 30k people watching on own3d right now and I would bet that more than half of them have no idea what these terms mean. Rather than fill dead air with guesswork he is explaining stuff to make the cast accessible to casual players. This is brilliant and I need to do it more myself.


What was funny to me was his explanation of CC without ever explaining that it stood for Crowd Control - i.e. it was a pretty bad explanation.


oh come one zenon. "cc" as an abbreviation for crowd control is something anyone who every played a computer game/console game for more than a few hours should know.
and most of the western viewers HAVE a gaming background or else how would they know about this tournament happening right now.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 25 2012 11:36 GMT
#3524
I don't mind them explaining the basics of the game, that's great. But it's really lame to hear the korean commentators in the background shouting and getting excited while the english commentators kind of just talk. During the fight where Hotshot flanked Urgot and almost turned the game around for CLG all we got was "and here hotshot gets a kill"
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
April 25 2012 11:36 GMT
#3525
On April 25 2012 20:29 DanielZKlein wrote:
Re: Moletrap explaining what the word CC means: this is absolutely necessary and really, really well done from him. Yeah, I know, you guys are all pros and you know the game and the lingo inside out, but there are 30k people watching on own3d right now and I would bet that more than half of them have no idea what these terms mean. Rather than fill dead air with guesswork he is explaining stuff to make the cast accessible to casual players. This is brilliant and I need to do it more myself.

Considering the amount of viewers on LoL streams daily, i find it hard to believe that so many people watching this event (on the english stream, korean stream is another thing) are inexperienced enough to not grasp concepts like crowd control. I'd rather believe that most viewers are familiar with LoL in general, and watch streams of events like this to observe and learn the finer points of pro-level play - where decent, knowledgeable commentators are a must.

If the stream was promoted/advertised by Riot inside the client, attracting a more casual group of players (like during events involving American and/or European teams -> IEM, IPL), your comment holds true - but currently, OGN is not such an event.
nehcnhoj
Profile Joined July 2010
United States213 Posts
April 25 2012 11:37 GMT
#3526
COME ON CHUUUSTER BRING IT BACKKK.

:< please.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 25 2012 11:37 GMT
#3527
"It's not Chooster. My name is Chauster. My name is Chauster."
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
April 25 2012 11:37 GMT
#3528
WTF just tuned wtf is up with Hotshot's beard?

Also how'd the first game go?
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 25 2012 11:37 GMT
#3529
OGN is the fucking best.

C'MON, GUYS CLG FIGHTING!!!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 11:38:19
April 25 2012 11:38 GMT
#3530
On April 25 2012 20:36 HazMat wrote:
I don't mind them explaining the basics of the game, that's great. But it's really lame to hear the korean commentators in the background shouting and getting excited while the english commentators kind of just talk. During the fight where Hotshot flanked Urgot and almost turned the game around for CLG all we got was "and here hotshot gets a kill"

Korea has a different system. There, the "cool" guys who are professional performing artists are the commentators, so they have great voice intonation and tone for commentating. In the western system its just regular "nerds" who know a lot about the game commentating, nothing wrong with that, but its why they cant reach the excitement of koreans.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 25 2012 11:38 GMT
#3531
On April 25 2012 20:35 shrinkmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:30 StUfF wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:29 DanielZKlein wrote:
Re: Moletrap explaining what the word CC means: this is absolutely necessary and really, really well done from him. Yeah, I know, you guys are all pros and you know the game and the lingo inside out, but there are 30k people watching on own3d right now and I would bet that more than half of them have no idea what these terms mean. Rather than fill dead air with guesswork he is explaining stuff to make the cast accessible to casual players. This is brilliant and I need to do it more myself.


What was funny to me was his explanation of CC without ever explaining that it stood for Crowd Control - i.e. it was a pretty bad explanation.


oh come one zenon. "cc" as an abbreviation for crowd control is something anyone who every played a computer game/console game for more than a few hours should know.
and most of the western viewers HAVE a gaming background or else how would they know about this tournament happening right now.

No. I came from BW and never played DOTA and had no idea what things such as CC, mia, b meant when I started playing LoL. Don't be so elitist.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 25 2012 11:38 GMT
#3532
Poor loco needs a proper headset mic not the handheld one lol.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
April 25 2012 11:38 GMT
#3533
On April 25 2012 20:37 Woony wrote:
WTF just tuned wtf is up with Hotshot's beard?

Also how'd the first game go?


CLG got stomped really hard - got crushed botlane, lost every dragon and every teamfight mostly through individual mistakes
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#3534
On April 25 2012 20:38 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:35 shrinkmaster wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:30 StUfF wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:29 DanielZKlein wrote:
Re: Moletrap explaining what the word CC means: this is absolutely necessary and really, really well done from him. Yeah, I know, you guys are all pros and you know the game and the lingo inside out, but there are 30k people watching on own3d right now and I would bet that more than half of them have no idea what these terms mean. Rather than fill dead air with guesswork he is explaining stuff to make the cast accessible to casual players. This is brilliant and I need to do it more myself.


What was funny to me was his explanation of CC without ever explaining that it stood for Crowd Control - i.e. it was a pretty bad explanation.


oh come one zenon. "cc" as an abbreviation for crowd control is something anyone who every played a computer game/console game for more than a few hours should know.
and most of the western viewers HAVE a gaming background or else how would they know about this tournament happening right now.

No. I came from BW and never played DOTA and had no idea what things such as CC, mia, b meant when I started playing LoL. Don't be so elitist.


but now you know. and my point was that the large majority currently watching the ogn tournament HAVE a gaming background.
if this was ipl or some other huge event with a link in the client + huge advertisements i would totally accept a more "casual friendly" style of commentary.
but right now ogn is a tournament for nerds who watch lol more than 2 days a week.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#3535
On April 25 2012 20:38 Goshawk. wrote:
Poor loco needs a proper headset mic not the handheld one lol.

agreed they need to get him a leather jacket and all the fancy suit that the other guys have
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#3536
I think we might see an urgot ban to force a standard bottom lane with AD vs AD. Doublelift seems to have trouble farming against an urgot soraka lane =/
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#3537
Why is locodoco's english so gud. Grew up in America?
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
April 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#3538
On April 25 2012 20:31 HazMat wrote:
[image loading]

Look at Chauster and Doublelift's legs crossover. Something aint right there.


Does jiji have his hands down Vicious' pants?

CLG still going 2-1 this pretty handily, still the better team.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#3539
On April 25 2012 20:40 shrinkmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:38 HazMat wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:35 shrinkmaster wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:30 StUfF wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:29 DanielZKlein wrote:
Re: Moletrap explaining what the word CC means: this is absolutely necessary and really, really well done from him. Yeah, I know, you guys are all pros and you know the game and the lingo inside out, but there are 30k people watching on own3d right now and I would bet that more than half of them have no idea what these terms mean. Rather than fill dead air with guesswork he is explaining stuff to make the cast accessible to casual players. This is brilliant and I need to do it more myself.


What was funny to me was his explanation of CC without ever explaining that it stood for Crowd Control - i.e. it was a pretty bad explanation.


oh come one zenon. "cc" as an abbreviation for crowd control is something anyone who every played a computer game/console game for more than a few hours should know.
and most of the western viewers HAVE a gaming background or else how would they know about this tournament happening right now.

No. I came from BW and never played DOTA and had no idea what things such as CC, mia, b meant when I started playing LoL. Don't be so elitist.


but now you know. and my point was that the large majority currently watching the ogn tournament HAVE a gaming background.
if this was ipl or some other huge event with a link in the client + huge advertisements i would totally accept a more "casual friendly" style of commentary.
but right now ogn is a tournament for nerds who watch lol more than 2 days a week.


This. Also most casual LoL players probably come from WoW/some MMORPG where they must know what CC is.

Whole point is that dumbed down casts=zzzzzzzzzzzzz, especially for such a niche event at an awkward time.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#3540
On April 25 2012 20:40 shrinkmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:38 HazMat wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:35 shrinkmaster wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:30 StUfF wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:29 DanielZKlein wrote:
Re: Moletrap explaining what the word CC means: this is absolutely necessary and really, really well done from him. Yeah, I know, you guys are all pros and you know the game and the lingo inside out, but there are 30k people watching on own3d right now and I would bet that more than half of them have no idea what these terms mean. Rather than fill dead air with guesswork he is explaining stuff to make the cast accessible to casual players. This is brilliant and I need to do it more myself.


What was funny to me was his explanation of CC without ever explaining that it stood for Crowd Control - i.e. it was a pretty bad explanation.


oh come one zenon. "cc" as an abbreviation for crowd control is something anyone who every played a computer game/console game for more than a few hours should know.
and most of the western viewers HAVE a gaming background or else how would they know about this tournament happening right now.

No. I came from BW and never played DOTA and had no idea what things such as CC, mia, b meant when I started playing LoL. Don't be so elitist.


but now you know. and my point was that the large majority currently watching the ogn tournament HAVE a gaming background.
if this was ipl or some other huge event with a link in the client + huge advertisements i would totally accept a more "casual friendly" style of commentary.
but right now ogn is a tournament for nerds who watch lol more than 2 days a week.

I HAD a gaming background and it took me a while to find out. C- on ICCUP and before then I played a bunch of consoles. If LoL was big when I was just starting I would have definitely watched a tournament to try to see what the game is about but I would have no idea what the commentators meant.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
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