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The Champions Feedback Thread

General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 06 2012 13:17 GMT
#2301
Superstar surrenders at 20.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 06 2012 13:17 GMT
#2302
Surrender@ 20. Looks like one of my train-wrecked solo-Q
Terran
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 06 2012 13:19 GMT
#2303
I don't think Superstar expected to make it out of the group. They were smiling and laughing at the end it seems.

Team OP and NaJin e-mfire advance as expected. Although Team OP beating Najin still a surprise. Quaterfinals starting to get stacked.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
April 06 2012 13:20 GMT
#2304
Losing mid that badly lost them the game imo ;o...
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 06 2012 13:24 GMT
#2305
On April 06 2012 22:20 MyTHicaL wrote:
Losing mid that badly lost them the game imo ;o...

You meant losing all THREE lanes that bad is a surrender @ 20. Losing the jungle as well.
Terran
Tarz
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada106 Posts
April 06 2012 13:28 GMT
#2306
On April 06 2012 22:02 JonnyLaw wrote:
I've never seen the style of early roaming/invading that e-mfire used in the start of the game. Checking enemy blue/red for stray champs and then pushing back into their own blue suspecting an invade.

It seems very strong. Is this common at all vs the straight invade and steal buff?


It is the first time I see it in tournament play too, so I guess it's not very common. It's pretty difficult to manage a normal invade, so I feel like this would be impossible to prepare in solo/duo queue...

However this does seem quite strong. A lane will lose some CS, but the team will get a kill because they will outnumber them. If they are not outnumbered, then the both opposing laners will be behind in CS, so no one woulb be behind.

I like this.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 13:37:57
April 06 2012 13:36 GMT
#2307
Predictions for Group D!

First Game
+ Show Spoiler +
MiG Blaze > Team Hunters

MiG strong as always. And with Blaze at a comparable level to Frost, I can't see them not crushing this game.


Second Game
+ Show Spoiler +
Startale > Fnatic

Fnatic are still solid. But they're not playing Startale. They're playing Startale, Xenics and everyone else who helps them. I can't see Fnatic getting past that wall.


Winner's Game
+ Show Spoiler +
MiG Blaze > Startale

MiG still king.


Loser's Game
+ Show Spoiler +
Fnatic > Team Hunter

This is a toss up since I don't know much about Hunters apart from random solo queue stuff from CLG stream. But if Fnatic should have the advantage in a Bo1 if they pull off their super-coordinated assassin comp or something. If they still haven't learned how to punish Korean aggression though, they'll likely lose though.


Final Game
+ Show Spoiler +
Startale > Fnatic

Rematch of the second game. And I still can't see Fnatic getting past Startale.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 06 2012 16:07 GMT
#2308
All I need is July show up and watch Startale LoL team play . MiG Blaze is like really strong according to what I see when they scrims with CLG.
Terran
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 07 2012 03:27 GMT
#2309
So, are the weird lineups being played here an honest attempt at a metagame shift?

Corki top.
Double Melle Bot.
Ezreal top.

Or are they just teams that aren't that great trying to cheese some victories?

I can't tell for sure...
Freeeeeeedom
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
April 10 2012 18:10 GMT
#2310
I don't know if anyone else browses ognlol.com regularly, but everyone should.

They have SOOOOO much information available on the teams/games/matches etc.

It is really impressive

http://www.ognlol.com/league/record

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 22:18:14
April 10 2012 22:16 GMT
#2311
Nojito, that page is amazing. Break downs of stats, each player's runes and masteries, team mvp and whatever other random info you can want to see.

*edit - Xenic's jungle LS is particularly interesting of the ones that I looked at. 0/21/9 going with run speed runes. Ultimate closer.

http://www.ognlol.com/league/schedule/w02_w01/w_team02
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 10 2012 22:38 GMT
#2312
Chauster goes 1/13/16 on Sona :O
http://www.ognlol.com/league/schedule/w02_b02/l_team03
A backwards poet writes inverse.
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 10 2012 22:59 GMT
#2313
JiJi's runepage on Ahri vs Mordekaiser
http://www.ognlol.com/league/schedule/w02_f01/w_team04

So much spellvamp
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 10 2012 23:10 GMT
#2314
I haven't seen any of these games, but how good are these korean teams? are they on par with the top LoL teams in NA and EU?
liftlift > tsm
Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
April 10 2012 23:34 GMT
#2315
On April 11 2012 07:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
Chauster goes 1/13/16 on Sona :O
http://www.ognlol.com/league/schedule/w02_b02/l_team03


Is that the -10 armor to towers talent? Good for split pushing I guess... but why on Sona? lol
I could see it being useful for those long drawn out 5v5 skirmishes (or 4v5 with someone split pushing) at a base tower when a team is pushing with baron and they can only get a few pot shots off on the tower every minion wave. Maybe it takes 2-3 less hits to kill with 190 armor instead of 200, doubt it makes much of a difference though. Interesting though. He also likes the 40 bonus experience on kill/assist.
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
Pinith
Profile Joined September 2010
651 Posts
April 11 2012 00:23 GMT
#2316
On April 11 2012 03:10 nojitosunrise wrote:
I don't know if anyone else browses ognlol.com regularly, but everyone should.

They have SOOOOO much information available on the teams/games/matches etc.

It is really impressive

http://www.ognlol.com/league/record



I think there are some translation issues, since it says e-mfire's Morg has spell vamp per level...
http://www.ognlol.com/league/schedule/w03_f01/w_team05

I like the mixed mr/mp5 glyphs corki uses, totally making a page like that for ez/corki
http://www.ognlol.com/league/schedule/w03_f01/w_team02
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 11 2012 00:37 GMT
#2317
Over for the day? I just was able to watch streams.
It's your boy Guzma!
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 11 2012 00:59 GMT
#2318
On April 11 2012 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
I haven't seen any of these games, but how good are these korean teams? are they on par with the top LoL teams in NA and EU?

Most are really bad, which is expected since many are actually casual group of players instead of actual team in my understanding. The team capable of competing with the foreign teams in this league (CLG, fnatic) would be two MiG teams and Xenics Storm. Startale might surprise us in the upcoming game though, since they also have bit of experience from operating SC2 division.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 11 2012 01:18 GMT
#2319
On April 11 2012 09:59 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
I haven't seen any of these games, but how good are these korean teams? are they on par with the top LoL teams in NA and EU?

Most are really bad, which is expected since many are actually casual group of players instead of actual team in my understanding. The team capable of competing with the foreign teams in this league (CLG, fnatic) would be two MiG teams and Xenics Storm. Startale might surprise us in the upcoming game though, since they also have bit of experience from operating SC2 division.

Najin (which is the former EDG afair) and OP both looked pretty solid. Not too sure how much of that was the other 2 teams being bad though.
As for Startale... We'll know tomorrow

All in all, i think MiG, MiG B, Xenics, Najin and OP currently play better than Fnatic does, so they're automatically placed above mid-tier EU proteams in my mind (think WW, MYM, ...) until they win games against better opponents.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 11 2012 01:37 GMT
#2320
Pool matches so far have been completely underwhelming. But I would still suggest you take a look at some of the VODs if you have the spare time. If you're a bona fide LoL fan, getting to know the Korean scene will be helpful.

To say the least, KR scene a different playstyle from NA and EU. Even if we're talking simply about picks and bans.
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