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Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#1621
Scary how hotshot's corki ally is.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#1622
Dispite smashs hate of Frozen mallet Singed is one of the champions I often buy it against. Nothing but guaranteed and consistent slow can really stop him raid bossing your team. Trinity proc isn't enough when he has so much cc reduction.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#1623
TF had his derping moments too. But now Smash's team kinda failed.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 06 2012 17:24 GMT
#1624
On February 07 2012 01:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 01:12 Seuss wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but exactly what else is there in the way of tournaments for teams that aren't on the A List? Go4LoL, for all its problems, is a consistent week to week opportunity for teams to really test their mettle. That's fairly important since it's difficult to get an absolute sense of where you stand from Elo (especially with so many one-off teams in ranked 5s).

It definitely has value for C tier teams, but for A and B tier? Not so much. CLG gets nothing out of it except for viewers. SK and aAa get slightly more, but even they should stomp their way to the semis.


I think I misunderstood Goshawk's comment. When he wondered why so many teams bothered with Go4LoL, I thought he meant in general rather than A list teams specifically.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 06 2012 17:26 GMT
#1625
1304 dmg by thornmail >.>, how is that even fair?
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 06 2012 17:27 GMT
#1626
You discount how much she can heal off lifesteal though, that wasn't taken into the account.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 06 2012 17:27 GMT
#1627
On February 07 2012 02:24 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 01:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 07 2012 01:12 Seuss wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but exactly what else is there in the way of tournaments for teams that aren't on the A List? Go4LoL, for all its problems, is a consistent week to week opportunity for teams to really test their mettle. That's fairly important since it's difficult to get an absolute sense of where you stand from Elo (especially with so many one-off teams in ranked 5s).

It definitely has value for C tier teams, but for A and B tier? Not so much. CLG gets nothing out of it except for viewers. SK and aAa get slightly more, but even they should stomp their way to the semis.


I think I misunderstood Goshawk's comment. When he wondered why so many teams bothered with Go4LoL, I thought he meant in general rather than A list teams specifically.


Wut. dno, even for our crappy premade go4lol usually meant 2-3 rounds of stomping and then you're vs one of the bigpros and get slaughtered in very unfun ways. The gap between random team xy and a big name is just so fucking huge that I'd say go4lol is a big waste of time unless you want to spend 4 hours to play vs one of those teams.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 06 2012 17:27 GMT
#1628
The trist decided MR isn't worth it, which would probably have turned that fight around lol. QSS might have turned that fight around.
boomer hands
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
February 06 2012 17:27 GMT
#1629
That was a pretty heavy team =p.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 06 2012 17:32 GMT
#1630
that trist... fucking bebe...
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 06 2012 17:36 GMT
#1631
On February 07 2012 02:32 Mogwai wrote:
that trist... fucking bebe...


real dog player.
amirite?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 06 2012 17:37 GMT
#1632
I think the bigger problem was 3 herpaderpa no gapcloser melees vs jarvan/tf/corki.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 06 2012 17:49 GMT
#1633
So how does GP shut down Singed
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 06 2012 17:57 GMT
#1634
On February 07 2012 02:27 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 02:24 Seuss wrote:
On February 07 2012 01:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 07 2012 01:12 Seuss wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but exactly what else is there in the way of tournaments for teams that aren't on the A List? Go4LoL, for all its problems, is a consistent week to week opportunity for teams to really test their mettle. That's fairly important since it's difficult to get an absolute sense of where you stand from Elo (especially with so many one-off teams in ranked 5s).

It definitely has value for C tier teams, but for A and B tier? Not so much. CLG gets nothing out of it except for viewers. SK and aAa get slightly more, but even they should stomp their way to the semis.


I think I misunderstood Goshawk's comment. When he wondered why so many teams bothered with Go4LoL, I thought he meant in general rather than A list teams specifically.


Wut. dno, even for our crappy premade go4lol usually meant 2-3 rounds of stomping and then you're vs one of the bigpros and get slaughtered in very unfun ways. The gap between random team xy and a big name is just so fucking huge that I'd say go4lol is a big waste of time unless you want to spend 4 hours to play vs one of those teams.


What's the alternative though? I'm not aware of any tournament as readily accessible as Go4LoL. There are a lot of terrible teams playing, but that's the big benefit of the tournament. Everyone playing gets a better sense of their team's strength, and everyone has the opportunity to learn from teams much better than they are. Go4Lol specifically could be run better, but as it stands there's no other tournament to compete in if you aren't a big name.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2012 18:02 GMT
#1635
The real problem is that Riot wont get their shit together and actually fixed ranked 5s. If they did that there would be no need for go4lol.

I mean, there are a BILLION ways to incentives ranked 5s. Give it a IP boost. Give 5rp per win. Actually announce monthly prizes/skins for hitting certain plateaus.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 06 2012 18:26 GMT
#1636
On February 07 2012 02:49 zulu_nation8 wrote:
So how does GP shut down Singed

he doesn't, my team just didn't want me to play teemo, panth or jarman. I shouldn't have listened to them.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 06 2012 18:30 GMT
#1637
what about if you go really deep and take ignite, stack dblades and rush bruta
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
February 06 2012 18:43 GMT
#1638
Hotshot streaming a ghost teleport solo top yi game now

I wouldn't miss it, he's gonna lane vs ryze or nida to get raped by either one
In the woods, there lurks..
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 06 2012 19:00 GMT
#1639
On February 07 2012 03:30 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what about if you go really deep and take ignite, stack dblades and rush bruta

I take it you haven't laned as a non-bursty melee like GP vs. singed... you get destroyed for double dblade -> brutalizer vs. signed because all you have is parrrley and he'll still shrug those off and now you're stupidly squishy and he just kills you when his ult's up.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 06 2012 19:08 GMT
#1640
need Sheen rush with full apen runes IMO! imba, I know.
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