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On February 02 2012 13:06 Skithiryx wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 12:55 starfries wrote:On February 02 2012 12:35 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:On February 02 2012 12:18 starfries wrote:On February 02 2012 11:54 tobi9999 wrote:
DoubleLift is a complete idiot....
"They killed you so fast! YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK ME TO KILL GANGPLANK? I HAD IE AND LAST WHISPER TOO! IF YOU WERE JUST TANKY LIKE GANGPLANK WE COULD'VE WON."
Then I go and look at Mandatorycloud's profile, and his final build was wriggles, triforce, last whisper, atmas, merc treads doran blade.
zzzzzzzzzzz
And also, "NO! soraka lost the lane for me. When Doublelift pushed to enemy tower against Graves, then let soraka die everytime they decided to start attacking instead of attacking back." I see he's stopped claiming every death is 100% your fault and is back to blaming teammates Saintvicious (Nunu) playing with Doublelift (Ashe): "I"m Nunu, but my AD carries always suck. You know what? It's still true!" Who are the good mannered streamers? I know this question has been asked. The Riot featured streamers are all manner and personally I think Chaox, chu8 and Nhat are nice as well. I dunno, I don't really have a problem with streamers like Saint who aren't really good mannered. It's just that Doublelift always seems to be arguing or calling people bad for the sake of his ego while if Saint says you suck he's just being brutally honest. +1 for Nhat, Chu8 and even Aphromoo, Saint/TheOddOne streams are one of the better ones to watch if you want to learn alot of the ins and outs of the game imo. Also something about Chaox, he seems like he's a compeltely different person then what he shows.
Now if only TOO wasn't so... Odd.
I can't watch his stream, I find it annoying as hell.
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On February 02 2012 14:53 sRapers_ValkS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 12:58 Nehsb wrote:On February 02 2012 12:55 Hyren wrote:On February 02 2012 12:35 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Who are the good mannered streamers? I know this question has been asked. Dan Dinh has always been mannered afaik, and of course G-Bob is famous for his non-raging. Xpecial and Nhat come to mind. I'm not sure if Dyrus used to be good mannered and popularity got to his head or if the "good guy Dyrus" was strictly based on how he handled the WCG situation, but he's just as ragey as anyone else now :/ As far as I remember, Dyrus has alternated between phases of not raging and phases of raging at least three times by now. I remember Dyrus being really really really chill back when he wasn't hyper popular but I feel like he's gotten a lot lot worse as time has gone by. Whether that's because of the popularity or because he has to play this game 8 hours a day though is beyond me. I don't like watching his stream that much anymore unfortunately, he's really rude now.
no he cycled rage not rage even before he was popular
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On February 02 2012 14:55 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 13:06 Skithiryx wrote:On February 02 2012 12:55 starfries wrote:On February 02 2012 12:35 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:On February 02 2012 12:18 starfries wrote:On February 02 2012 11:54 tobi9999 wrote:
DoubleLift is a complete idiot....
"They killed you so fast! YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK ME TO KILL GANGPLANK? I HAD IE AND LAST WHISPER TOO! IF YOU WERE JUST TANKY LIKE GANGPLANK WE COULD'VE WON."
Then I go and look at Mandatorycloud's profile, and his final build was wriggles, triforce, last whisper, atmas, merc treads doran blade.
zzzzzzzzzzz
And also, "NO! soraka lost the lane for me. When Doublelift pushed to enemy tower against Graves, then let soraka die everytime they decided to start attacking instead of attacking back." I see he's stopped claiming every death is 100% your fault and is back to blaming teammates Saintvicious (Nunu) playing with Doublelift (Ashe): "I"m Nunu, but my AD carries always suck. You know what? It's still true!" Who are the good mannered streamers? I know this question has been asked. The Riot featured streamers are all manner and personally I think Chaox, chu8 and Nhat are nice as well. I dunno, I don't really have a problem with streamers like Saint who aren't really good mannered. It's just that Doublelift always seems to be arguing or calling people bad for the sake of his ego while if Saint says you suck he's just being brutally honest. +1 for Nhat, Chu8 and even Aphromoo, Saint/TheOddOne streams are one of the better ones to watch if you want to learn alot of the ins and outs of the game imo. Also something about Chaox, he seems like he's a compeltely different person then what he shows. Now if only TOO wasn't so... Odd. I can't watch his stream, I find it annoying as hell.
His oddities and quotes usually end up being pretty funny, I more like watching it because he explains why he's doing things in pretty good detail, also goes through his thought process alot it can just be hard to catch it inbetween his mad ramblings.
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On February 02 2012 15:10 Skithiryx wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 14:55 iCanada wrote:On February 02 2012 13:06 Skithiryx wrote:On February 02 2012 12:55 starfries wrote:On February 02 2012 12:35 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:On February 02 2012 12:18 starfries wrote:On February 02 2012 11:54 tobi9999 wrote:
DoubleLift is a complete idiot....
"They killed you so fast! YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK ME TO KILL GANGPLANK? I HAD IE AND LAST WHISPER TOO! IF YOU WERE JUST TANKY LIKE GANGPLANK WE COULD'VE WON."
Then I go and look at Mandatorycloud's profile, and his final build was wriggles, triforce, last whisper, atmas, merc treads doran blade.
zzzzzzzzzzz
And also, "NO! soraka lost the lane for me. When Doublelift pushed to enemy tower against Graves, then let soraka die everytime they decided to start attacking instead of attacking back." I see he's stopped claiming every death is 100% your fault and is back to blaming teammates Saintvicious (Nunu) playing with Doublelift (Ashe): "I"m Nunu, but my AD carries always suck. You know what? It's still true!" Who are the good mannered streamers? I know this question has been asked. The Riot featured streamers are all manner and personally I think Chaox, chu8 and Nhat are nice as well. I dunno, I don't really have a problem with streamers like Saint who aren't really good mannered. It's just that Doublelift always seems to be arguing or calling people bad for the sake of his ego while if Saint says you suck he's just being brutally honest. +1 for Nhat, Chu8 and even Aphromoo, Saint/TheOddOne streams are one of the better ones to watch if you want to learn alot of the ins and outs of the game imo. Also something about Chaox, he seems like he's a compeltely different person then what he shows. Now if only TOO wasn't so... Odd. I can't watch his stream, I find it annoying as hell. His oddities and quotes usually end up being pretty funny, I more like watching it because he explains why he's doing things in pretty good detail, also goes through his thought process alot it can just be hard to catch it inbetween his mad ramblings.
^^  I started watching him last summer and I agree. His actual knowledge of the game is quite impressive and I've learned a lot more from watching his stream.
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On February 02 2012 15:19 icemanzdoinwork wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 15:10 Skithiryx wrote:On February 02 2012 14:55 iCanada wrote:On February 02 2012 13:06 Skithiryx wrote:On February 02 2012 12:55 starfries wrote:On February 02 2012 12:35 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:On February 02 2012 12:18 starfries wrote:On February 02 2012 11:54 tobi9999 wrote:
DoubleLift is a complete idiot....
"They killed you so fast! YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK ME TO KILL GANGPLANK? I HAD IE AND LAST WHISPER TOO! IF YOU WERE JUST TANKY LIKE GANGPLANK WE COULD'VE WON."
Then I go and look at Mandatorycloud's profile, and his final build was wriggles, triforce, last whisper, atmas, merc treads doran blade.
zzzzzzzzzzz
And also, "NO! soraka lost the lane for me. When Doublelift pushed to enemy tower against Graves, then let soraka die everytime they decided to start attacking instead of attacking back." I see he's stopped claiming every death is 100% your fault and is back to blaming teammates Saintvicious (Nunu) playing with Doublelift (Ashe): "I"m Nunu, but my AD carries always suck. You know what? It's still true!" Who are the good mannered streamers? I know this question has been asked. The Riot featured streamers are all manner and personally I think Chaox, chu8 and Nhat are nice as well. I dunno, I don't really have a problem with streamers like Saint who aren't really good mannered. It's just that Doublelift always seems to be arguing or calling people bad for the sake of his ego while if Saint says you suck he's just being brutally honest. +1 for Nhat, Chu8 and even Aphromoo, Saint/TheOddOne streams are one of the better ones to watch if you want to learn alot of the ins and outs of the game imo. Also something about Chaox, he seems like he's a compeltely different person then what he shows. Now if only TOO wasn't so... Odd. I can't watch his stream, I find it annoying as hell. His oddities and quotes usually end up being pretty funny, I more like watching it because he explains why he's doing things in pretty good detail, also goes through his thought process alot it can just be hard to catch it inbetween his mad ramblings. ^^ I started watching him last summer and I agree. His actual knowledge of the game is quite impressive and I've learned a lot more from watching his stream.
Yeah, no doubt you learn a ridiculous amount about the game just by watching his stream, I'd argue he is about the best for that.
I just... wish he would sit still and not yell so much. I don't find it entertaining in the slightest, and I have to force myself to watch his stream.
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Okay, been playing a lot of ziggs, here are some basic thoughts.
1. his laning phase is pretty strong. he can aoe down an entire wave at early levels. he can also zone out other champions a lot too.
2. i think it's a small bug, but after somone gets bumped by his satchel charge they get semi stunned/stuck.
3. his ulti range is a tad bit absurd, but with that being said, it's really hard to hit (unless you have someone aoe cc).
4. combo's like w/ malphite, or sejuani, or amumu, or galio, or any characters with aoe stun, makes your aoe so much stronger.
5. his q missle speed is a bit slow, but with that being said i think its better that way, especially since it just explodes on contact.
6. his mines are way more powerful than his q. But you should always max q, due to insanely short cooldown on maxed q.
7. A cool combo. Set down satchel charge. Harass with your q and e real quick, then run away with your initial satchel charge. OR if they're too far away, satchel in, then q at opponent (very risky, since no other escape mechanic).
8. As of now, I don't really see him being used in pro-play, unless a specific teamcomp revolves around him. Mostly because he doesn't offer any hard CC, which most ap's have.
9. he has the most awesome icon for kills.
10. did i mention how cute he is?
11. He can jungle fairly easily, but offers no real gank potential other than just damage, in current meta junglers offer some sort of CC.
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Can we talk about Ziggs yet? It seems to me that this is the best selling champ in a while. He's been in every game I've played today.
Only in one game did he seem overpowered, but it was just because he got fed like crazy. Turns out, if he gets that 14 minutes death cap like in the spotlight, he's gonna wreck your face all game long.
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On February 02 2012 15:35 Terranasaur wrote:
Can we talk about Ziggs yet? It seems to me that this is the best selling champ in a while. He's been in every game I've played today.
Only in one game did he seem overpowered, but it was just because he got fed like crazy. Turns out, if he gets that 14 minutes death cap like in the spotlight, he's gonna wreck your face all game long.
9 minutes*
It would be cool to see a Champion spotlight where Phreak doesn't get fed a rampage in the first 5 minutes, could even tie in well with their whole "learning" vibe they have going on, showing how with proper warding, safe play and a jungle gank you can recover in lane. But then again it won't show Phreak half healthing people with one skill so I doubt it'd happen...
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ziggs is amazingly fun to play.
he doesn't really -do- anything but SO FUN SO CUTE \o/
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On February 02 2012 16:01 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
ziggs is amazingly fun to play.
he doesn't really -do- anything but SO FUN SO CUTE \o/
Eh? He does the damages. Hell, he does ALL the damages.
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On February 02 2012 15:41 Skithiryx wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 15:35 Terranasaur wrote:
Can we talk about Ziggs yet? It seems to me that this is the best selling champ in a while. He's been in every game I've played today.
Only in one game did he seem overpowered, but it was just because he got fed like crazy. Turns out, if he gets that 14 minutes death cap like in the spotlight, he's gonna wreck your face all game long. 9 minutes* It would be cool to see a Champion spotlight where Phreak doesn't get fed a rampage in the first 5 minutes, could even tie in well with their whole "learning" vibe they have going on, showing how with proper warding, safe play and a jungle gank you can recover in lane. But then again it won't show Phreak half healthing people with one skill so I doubt it'd happen...
They're trying to sell champions. Making them look OP in the spotlight is certainly on purpose.
Ziggs looks okay so far. His minefield is pretty annoying when your team is trying to push or when the enemy team is pushing into you.
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I'm most disappointed with "Mega Inferno Bomb"
That was their chance to have a completely absurd over-the-top name like
THAUMANUCLEAR HELLFERNOBLAST or something
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I find that silencing ziggs before he can drop his satchel means he dies. The delay on the satchel explosion is his main downfall.
Provides great utility and zoning though. That ult hurts even if you aren't standing in the center of it.
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On February 02 2012 16:06 Niton wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 16:01 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
ziggs is amazingly fun to play.
he doesn't really -do- anything but SO FUN SO CUTE \o/ Eh? He does the damages. Hell, he does ALL the damages.
He also squishy as hell.
I think there are stronger picks mid.
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On February 02 2012 16:37 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 16:06 Niton wrote:On February 02 2012 16:01 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
ziggs is amazingly fun to play.
he doesn't really -do- anything but SO FUN SO CUTE \o/ Eh? He does the damages. Hell, he does ALL the damages. He also squishy as hell. I think there are stronger picks mid.
Glass cannon champs are always in style.
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Okay. My friend is the best sejuani i've ever played with, but aside from that point. Sejuani ulti + Ziggs ulti = unescable hell.
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On February 02 2012 17:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Okay. My friend is the best sejuani i've ever played with, but aside from that point. Sejuani ulti + Ziggs ulti = unescable hell.
Jarvan ulti is better for that imoimo.
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Salce chalice on Ori vs Morde even when already winning lane without blue? Then it's official :O
Speaking of mana, my favorite buff to Jax was the mana regen, as the remake empower cost 20mp -->30mp was a massive nerf, especially since they balanced the new one around a 3-second cooldown. The only reason I felt the need to rush triforce all last week was his tiny mana pool preventing me from using my abilities with any sort of effectiveness in lane against sustainy/manaless champs.
Amusing how many people went ZOMG OP when they saw his buffs, and yet post-patch I pretty much never see him picked/banned on streams.
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I don't think Jax is OP at all. I think he's still underwhelming. Sure he can do tons of damage, but his laning is weak as hell and he still requires a shitton of farm to get the ball rolling. I honestly don't see him being all that strong/viable in competitive play especially since the metagame is pretty geared towards early-mid game domination.
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On February 02 2012 17:29 Flakes wrote:
Salce chalice on Ori vs Morde even when already winning lane without blue? Then it's official :O
Chalice is retardedly strong, and one day people will see it get purchased and not freak out like it's a tiamat / haunting guise / snowball item. It's just about the best item in the game at doing what it does.
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