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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#721
Quick.
QUICK!
READ THIS BEFORE HE DELETES IT!!

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=277668

<3 numbers
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Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
October 21 2011 07:23 GMT
#722
Dumb question, but is 0123456789 the Liquid on Crs?
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 21 2011 07:24 GMT
#723
Support Jarvan ftw, whenever I play Jarvan I seem to support.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 21 2011 07:29 GMT
#724
On October 21 2011 16:23 Shiragaku wrote:
Dumb question, but is 0123456789 the Liquid on Crs?


No.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 21 2011 07:41 GMT
#725
Numbers is a shitton better than Liquid.

Jesus
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
October 21 2011 07:44 GMT
#726
Thing is that Jarman's ult has slightly longer range than flash. Most of the time in a fight the moment I see a half health hero flash out, I'm trying to end up on top of them. Same concept applies to jungle ganks. Jarman's ult is a utility skill more than anything else, some teamfights you won't even cast it. I've actually debated not picking it up at level 11 several times, I might try without it when I am going for a full tank build, as the % armor reduction might be worth more than the <100 damage extra. That being said, it's another flash to go in, you can cancel it almost immediately after you put it up, and if you catch many people, it forces a lot of flashes if they are out of position/retreating.
My biggest issue with Jarvan is that he has a lot of trouble with defensive play. His skill set makes him want to be in the middle of the other team, which is quite hard to do when they are trying to push a tower and it's a 3v4 in their favor. IMO his ult is really good when used right (hello 3.5 second snare), but the chances for you to use it right are quite rare. My complaint about Jarvan's ult is when you die midair or just as you come down, you have your ult on CD, and it never happened. Quite annoying. They also fixed the bug where if you went to your standard almost immediately after ulting it put up a second ring. All Jarvan really needs is a slightly thicker ring so that the short range skills can't get over it (cait net, nid pounce, other ones) Flashing out is IMO okay, skills that can force flashes are fairly strong.

Jarvan seems to be able to outlane most heroes except for the ultra sustain heroes (Cho, Ire). He ties with Akali and Talon. He loses to Singed once Singed gets RoA, but seems to beat most other solo top champs. Perhaps it's just my build that loses to some of the solo top heroes.

While Jarvan is a fairly decent jungler, he needs a lot of farm or some successful ganks to really make himself worth it. He is slower and more vulnerable to invades than most of the top junglers. His ganking is a lot like Amumu's. Most of the time Amumu is considered a better jungler as his e provides damage reduction, compared with Jarvan's shield which takes mana and doesn't last as long. Mumu also has more burst than Jarvan if the gank lasts longer than 2-3 seconds. As a result he just isn't among the top junglers in the game as he needs his ganks to work well, yet he is worse than Amumu at ganking at times.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
October 21 2011 08:05 GMT
#727
Speaking of jarman, i'm pretty sure that his ult lasted while he was dead and now it doesn't, can't find patch notes for it though and i think it's pretty gay
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
October 21 2011 08:17 GMT
#728
It still lasts, but if you die within like the first 0.5s or so after you come down, it doesn't. It's annoying like that.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
October 21 2011 10:19 GMT
#729
On October 21 2011 16:23 Shiragaku wrote:
Dumb question, but is 0123456789 the Liquid on Crs?


I think if numbers was that bad he would kill himself. I would too if I was awful at support like he is.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 21 2011 10:31 GMT
#730
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Hi, my name is 0123456789. I don't play Starcraft II and I'm not a Starcraft II player. I am a League of Legends player, and I used to be part of TeamLiquid's League of Legends team, back when TeamLiquid had a League of Legends team. My history with gaming starts off with League of Legends. I never played dota, or wcIII, or SC, or any other competitive game. League of Legends was my first competitive game. I was an okay League of Legends player, 2K and platinum, which is like platinum in SCII. One day, some dude on TeamLiquid said that they were making a LoL team. They were accepting anybody who posted in the WHO WANTS TO JOIN TL TEAM thread. I said I would join, and I got in. After that, we got to play in NESL, which is ESL without Europeans, and we got to premier league for NESL. Premier league pretty much meant that you were enough of a sucker to pay $15 and pwnd some nubs in some qualifiers. Anyways, so then TL plays in premier league, and I play some games, but I stopped playing with TL because I had performance fright. It was hard to play tournament games because picks/bans would take an hour and I had to wait a grueling hour and anxiety built up. (I had similar anxiety playing against known players too. LoL esports figures make me nervous!) Anyways, so one time some dude named SCII player named Heavonearth decided he didn't want to play game 2 vs dignitas(formerly rock solid) because he's like 14 and had to sleep or something. So I had to play vs dignitas(formerly rock solid, who won IPL3). During this era of League of Legends gaming, roaming was a very popular strat, and TeamLiquid lost many games to roamers/counterjunglers vs crappy teams like the greatgaypenishwhalelord team(seriously their name or something). I got pretty ticked off, so I came up with this crazy cool strat(because that's what support players do in game. They're bored like shit using like 2 apm to do shit, so they just think and kill themselves with anxiety.) Anyways, my strat is featured in my superultimate Favorite E-sports win. It's basically killing starting items with support and buying all wards to cover the gank paths on the map for the first 4 minutes of the game to prevent early roaming/junglers that depend on ganks/fast ganks. (I also found the 3 wards, mana pendant, pot strat before the europeans but people copy me. Just like when I made up dorans stacking. I seriously did, no joke. I told atlanta, he said it was gay, then copied it.) After first 4 minutes, every1 else wards their lanes.

Anyways this is the game. My superultimate Favorite E-sports game from 4 months ago. Enjoy!



I'm soraka. In the first minute of the game, I wait to buy wards after their clair to hide my sekret strat and my items. I go top to ward brush on top lane, and entry to top because taric roam so popular during this time, and TL QQ all day long. I then go down and ward every path towards mid and bot. Yeah fuck you maokai, you suck at jungling, and need shitty gimmick ganks to be useful in jungle. Around before 4:00, gizmo sees it, still wastes flash. Wut a nub!

4:00 how to stop taric bot, ward brush!

Before 9:00 I die being nub because I was talking and forgot to b, but =(. Bot, taric trist is agressive, soraka vayne is defensive and not as good in lane, but stronger later in the game. Soraka #1 scaling support at the time, vayne #1 scaling dps.

11 minutes, sexy silence, didn't even know if that would hit so it came out early, but still sexy. I had ward on drag! Overlapped CC, something I don't usually do, but still turned out well. One thing to note. One bad timing to ward dragon can mean a kill + drag for the other team since distance from bottom lane to drag is pretty long.

12 min in, gizmo doing some sexy stuff, but this blog is not about him.

14:50 BAITED! OMG QTIPIE, SO CUTIE! son of a bitch pathing.

17:00 OMG Scarra why you so gud! and then bounce the ultimate off each other for win!

zzz I thought we stomped this game. Guess not....

Around after 19 minutes, no Voyboy, i have wards. No ganks on us!

Baron fight, how to not get targeted by Akali as a support: Have shakedrizzle bait as nunu, the dmg. How to bait QTPIE! Flash over walls, I loved doing this. Because I always have flash up. I also love warding. Even skipping items to ward everything and make sure wards are everywhere. Oh, the nostalgia.

28 min fuck you colby. Support not supposed to have cs.

29 min who mistimed Baron>_>. We too bad to write baron timer down.

Second baron fight. I blame pathing *cough pathing yeah>_>.

Anyways, conclusion. We lost the series due to playing against RS so many times and them knowing Smash loves Jarvan. Ban Jarvan, ban soraka lose game. Also, TL won the game because of my sexy counter strat. Stopped early taric and maokai ganks which killed their early roaming. In the end, We won e-sports money from NESL preimer league though. Woot! Time to go to sleep now. Good memories.


sup
Everyone needs a nemesis.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 21 2011 10:31 GMT
#731
On October 21 2011 19:19 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 16:23 Shiragaku wrote:
Dumb question, but is 0123456789 the Liquid on Crs?


I think if numbers was that bad he would kill himself. I would too if I was awful at support like he is.


.....I'm worse.......
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 21 2011 11:21 GMT
#732
On October 21 2011 19:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 19:19 dnastyx wrote:
On October 21 2011 16:23 Shiragaku wrote:
Dumb question, but is 0123456789 the Liquid on Crs?


I think if numbers was that bad he would kill himself. I would too if I was awful at support like he is.


.....I'm worse.......


At least you can play cow better than me ~_~
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Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
October 21 2011 12:40 GMT
#733
So what do you think about pure ap mana blitz? His burst is pretty insane with lichbane, deathcap, and archangels staff while remaining an off tank because of his passive and frozen heart/banshees veil. Also one of the best things is that an ap blitz is so rare that enemy usually prepare for a ad tank instead of an ap carry.
Skipper240
Profile Joined August 2010
140 Posts
October 21 2011 12:42 GMT
#734
On October 21 2011 21:40 Bwaaaa wrote:
So what do you think about pure ap mana blitz? His burst is pretty insane with lichbane, deathcap, and archangels staff while remaining an off tank because of his passive and frozen heart/banshees veil. Also one of the best things is that an ap blitz is so rare that enemy usually prepare for a ad tank instead of an ap carry.

Except that would be impossible to get.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 21 2011 12:43 GMT
#735
On October 21 2011 08:22 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
What she did was pretty silly. And at least a bit slutty.


Slut shaming

Show nested quote +
Becca needs to realize that making out with a ton of dudes who are in competitive lol is a bit silly and makes you look like a slut.


Slut shaming

Show nested quote +
so CLG shared this TSM girl after the afterparty?


Objectification of women

sup TL what's good

EDIT: Ohgod I read through that reddit thread again and it's all terrible. :V



hey i did that on purpose because i find that making out with like 4 people at the same party is a bit silly and making out with 4 people that are one group is just weird. Guess they didnt read the Brocode. Notice that i wrote people and not guys, also.
Oh yeah and hotshot cheaing is the worst of it, but that girl isnt streaming, so... :D
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 21 2011 12:50 GMT
#736
On October 21 2011 20:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 19:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
On October 21 2011 19:19 dnastyx wrote:
On October 21 2011 16:23 Shiragaku wrote:
Dumb question, but is 0123456789 the Liquid on Crs?


I think if numbers was that bad he would kill himself. I would too if I was awful at support like he is.


.....I'm worse.......


At least you can play cow better than me ~_~

A male cow is called a bull :3
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 13:01:57
October 21 2011 13:00 GMT
#737
On October 21 2011 21:40 Bwaaaa wrote:
So what do you think about pure ap mana blitz? His burst is pretty insane with lichbane, deathcap, and archangels staff while remaining an off tank because of his passive and frozen heart/banshees veil. Also one of the best things is that an ap blitz is so rare that enemy usually prepare for a ad tank instead of an ap carry.

#1 trap people fall into when playing Blitz: Prioritising buying mana. The thing is, his passive is nice but you should never buy mana for the sake of making his passive better. It's very temporary shield that is only available sometimes. If you're worried about dying, hp lets you live longer, not mana. I also dislike Tear on Blitz. Sure he like mana but at the same time that's at least 1k gold you set yourself back by. Blitz really needs Cata early on for sustain in lane because he gets poked at during the 16-20sec CD on his Q or if they hide in the minion wave. Blitz also only really has his W to spam for charging up Tear, unless you go Manamune but then that's not AP Blitz. Also, you shouldn't be going oom since W+E are such low mana cost skills unless you're using Q to farm minions or something.

Also, going AP means your have a lot of heavy up front burst in Q and R but not much else. The problem here is that Q is not a reliable method of damage in fights, especially with its massive CD. W+E are very spammable in fights (W has 50+% uptime with no CDR!) and scale well with even just a little AD. Trinity is great since you get Sheen+Phage procs off a lot in fights. Also, R should generally be saved until when it is absolutely necessary since the passive gives a lot of dps. Because you are melee, you have to be tanky to just get in there and mess people up. AP Builds are pretty squishy and normally you need more than a token defensive item since Blitz has nice base stats, but not amazing base stats.

If you go AP Carry, you also have to compare yourself against other AP Carries and see what they offer. For example, how does Blitz compare against AP TF who is ranged, or Swain who can be pretty tanky and heal and hurt people too? Being melee does not help here.

So overall, I would say it's do-able but get something like RoA for tankyness. It's also not something I play myself since I think Cata -> Trinity -> Tank Blitz is much scarier, but each to their own.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
October 21 2011 13:01 GMT
#738
On October 21 2011 21:50 RogerX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 20:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 21 2011 19:31 BlackPaladin wrote:
On October 21 2011 19:19 dnastyx wrote:
On October 21 2011 16:23 Shiragaku wrote:
Dumb question, but is 0123456789 the Liquid on Crs?


I think if numbers was that bad he would kill himself. I would too if I was awful at support like he is.


.....I'm worse.......


At least you can play cow better than me ~_~

A male cow is called a bull :3

But saying a cow is cuter, therefore your argument is wrong :3
The legend of Darien lives on
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 21 2011 13:40 GMT
#739
On October 21 2011 12:41 Qualm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 11:56 tyCe wrote:
It is the same CauthonLuck. He feigns ignorance of the SC2 CauthonLuck but it is most definitely him. Raelcun or some other TLer said that he had CauthonLuck on his friends list during beta and that this person corresponds to the same CauthonLuck seen in some high Elo streams.


That's too bad then, CauthonLuck is a real dick in-game. T_T


if your LoL ID is Qualm too then I got carried by your karthus yesterday and added you after, thanks.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 21 2011 13:41 GMT
#740
On October 21 2011 12:11 Reuental wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 12:00 br0fivE wrote:
is it just me, or is anyone else sick of CLG/Solomid abusing the ad system? i swear its like 4 adds in a row, always same add and then 10 mins later 4 more adds and so on...

its so frustrating


Why aren't you using Adblock?


I can't seem to block own.tv ads anymore with adblock, anyone else having the same problem?
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