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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 01:38:00
October 10 2011 01:37 GMT
#1141
i forever post this in the wrong thread zzz
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 10 2011 01:40 GMT
#1142
We need a TL hall of fame for the League of Legends Subforum.

I nominate LoCicero.
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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 10 2011 01:47 GMT
#1143
I nominate LoCi

and Cixah for the idea x)
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 10 2011 02:24 GMT
#1144
On October 10 2011 10:33 topoulo wrote:

After ipl finals and iem whereas finally lee sin had a chance to be played - faILED -

Any player with lee sin was the weakest , top junglers try him like saint - din dahn etc yet nothing

a rly justifiable nerf ...


On the other had riot thinks akali is fine. ( obviously jax in dominion as well)


im pretty sure he was too strong and Im inclined to think akali isn't too strong... gunblade is.

and i dunno what makes you imagine they think jax is fine in dominion
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 10 2011 02:27 GMT
#1145
On October 10 2011 11:24 UniversalSnip wrote:
im pretty sure he was too strong and Im inclined to think akali isn't too strong... gunblade is.

This. Lee was really REALLY mobile and still is. Is he beat able? Yes, but his early game because of this mobility is just freaking Bonkers.

Gunblade is also really strong. It's too efficient for its own good. Needs to cast at least 300-400 more to combine.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 10 2011 02:33 GMT
#1146
I just wish they'd find a balanced point between the old spellvamp costing and the new one. revolver used to be 15% and everything else was costed on that and it was too low, then it was 20% and everything was costed off that and was too high, now revolver is 15% and everything else is based on the 20% costing. Why not try them both at like 17.5% or something.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
October 10 2011 03:11 GMT
#1147
Making gunblade cost more doesn't solve the problem that it gives hybrids far too much life restore. It needs to have its vamp/steal reduced outright.

Revolver is only a problem on energy champs because you turn nothing into something, whereas everyone with a meaningful spell cost (aka mana) gets health at the cost of doing something later (because of running out of mana). Gunblade is broken on pretty much everyone who uses it. You just get far too much healing too fast, not to mention the high range 4 second slow.
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zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
October 10 2011 03:36 GMT
#1148
Spell vamp is a problem on quite a few characters. People would be crying floods over vlad + revolver/WotA if he wasn't so underplayed (maybe even UP? I don't know). Getting health from a resource that isn't going to run out isn't a good concept.

Jax with gunblade + 1-2 other damage items (doesn't really matter what he buys) can solo baron because of the insane sustain that gunblade gives.

Perhaps a slight decrease in cost effectiveness of the spell vamp would be sufficient?
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 03:58:55
October 10 2011 03:40 GMT
#1149
I'm too afraid to do my first ranked match, can anyone help me ? D:

EDIT: OMG i nearly beat Akinator from finding graves he gt it after like the 3rd try sigh. so close
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 10 2011 03:43 GMT
#1150
Log into league
Press play button
Pick Ranked
If you ban listen to your team, if you don't then pick your most comfortable champion/role.
Play.

There, you just played a ranked game.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 10 2011 04:20 GMT
#1151
Imo, they just need to lower Gunblade spellvamp from 25% to 20%. Then see where it goes from there.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
October 10 2011 04:22 GMT
#1152
On October 10 2011 12:43 Cixah wrote:
Log into league
Press play button
Pick Ranked
If you ban listen to your team, if you don't then pick your most comfortable champion/role.
Play.

There, you just played a ranked game.


You forgot steps 6) and 7)

6) Regardless of outcome come back to TL and post a screeny with funny insights on ranked

7) Get criticized
FADC
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
October 10 2011 04:23 GMT
#1153
On October 10 2011 13:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
Imo, they just need to lower Gunblade spellvamp from 25% to 20%. Then see where it goes from there.


Yeah that could be enough. Taking it step by step is also very important, because overnerfing stuff isn't that way to go. Blizzard did that with wow pvp, if something is OP they could nerf the living hell out of it. Something could (and did, quite often) go from insanely OP to unplayably bad in a single patch.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
October 10 2011 04:29 GMT
#1154
Akali is a very competively viable champ, but certainly not OP. Even nerfs that may seem trivial might make her never played again lol.

Honestly I would just leave her as she is. If they were to nerf her however, I would tweak her passive so it's not possible to get the bonuses with just runes.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 04:31:46
October 10 2011 04:30 GMT
#1155
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/graves-mechanics-preview

New hero mechanics out. Apparently corki's q is back, if limiting vision = blindness. However could be just mini noc ultis
Zenithal
Profile Joined August 2011
United States142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 04:42:22
October 10 2011 04:39 GMT
#1156
Alright, who's the champion for retards? I apparently can't play this game. I've lost every game this entire weekend (a good 20 or so) as various champions, failing fucking hard each time. I mean always negative K/D, often blamed for my losses. But I want to keep playing with friends, so who can I suck as and still do alright with?

Edit: I've played Ezreal, Teemo, Riven, Brand, Ryze, Yi and Vayne. Sucked with all them.
Whatevs
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 04:39:49
October 10 2011 04:39 GMT
#1157
this graves guy seems like an anti-assassin ranged AD carry. If he has the right numbers he is probably pretty strong in dominion and can be a counterpick to assassin/melee carry heavy teams.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 10 2011 04:44 GMT
#1158
On October 10 2011 13:29 tobi9999 wrote:
Akali is a very competively viable champ, but certainly not OP. Even nerfs that may seem trivial might make her never played again lol.

Honestly I would just leave her as she is. If they were to nerf her however, I would tweak her passive so it's not possible to get the bonuses with just runes.



That would kill her as a champion.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
October 10 2011 04:53 GMT
#1159
On October 10 2011 13:39 Zenithal wrote:
Alright, who's the champion for retards? I apparently can't play this game. I've lost every game this entire weekend (a good 20 or so) as various champions, failing fucking hard each time. I mean always negative K/D, often blamed for my losses. But I want to keep playing with friends, so who can I suck as and still do alright with?

Edit: I've played Ezreal, Teemo, Riven, Brand, Ryze, Yi and Vayne. Sucked with all them.

Try xin zhao, he is pretty easy. I was pretty terrible until I tried him during his rotation.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
October 10 2011 04:56 GMT
#1160
On October 10 2011 13:39 Zenithal wrote:
Alright, who's the champion for retards? I apparently can't play this game. I've lost every game this entire weekend (a good 20 or so) as various champions, failing fucking hard each time. I mean always negative K/D, often blamed for my losses. But I want to keep playing with friends, so who can I suck as and still do alright with?

Edit: I've played Ezreal, Teemo, Riven, Brand, Ryze, Yi and Vayne. Sucked with all them.


Of the 1350s, Cho Gath, Garen, Nasus and somewhat Singed and Morgana
Try Annie, she's 450 and pretty straightforward with point and click killing moves.

Ranged carries take quite a bit of mechanics(farming, microing in between attacks, and just general positioning) to kill champs that are just straightforward run in, execute combo, and kill types. Cho, Garen, Nasus, and Singed are usually pretty tanky so they can take a beating and dish it out at the same time by just pressing qwer
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