On October 05 2011 10:43 taLbuk wrote:
What the crap?

No WuKong nerfs? that hero is the most OP thing in game, i ban him every solo queue

stealth, mobility, images, spin to win

riot im losing my faith in your balancing

OK come on now, I know most of you aren't this slow.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

October 05 2011 02:03 GMT

#62

D+2 of constant zenon shoutouts and this forum is already 20x worse.

taLbuk

Madagascar1879 Posts

October 05 2011 02:05 GMT

#63

well? it seems nobody else thinks the game should be balanced around all levels of play?

have fun with OP hero like brand wukong and lee sin and nocturne until riot decides to give people chance in non draft mode

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

October 05 2011 02:08 GMT

#64

Eh I can see his point. Should probably just play WoW though.

Cixah

United States11285 Posts

October 05 2011 02:08 GMT

#65

The fact of the matter is, this forum is also about getting better. Most of the gripes people have with characters like Wukong are because you aren't being game aware and putting yourself in the really akward situation of getting 100-0'd by a melee character who has a 100% AD scaling ult. Know his range and respect it. It's and annie that has a leap.

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

October 05 2011 02:08 GMT

#66

taLbuk, just stop...

DarkRise

1644 Posts

October 05 2011 02:10 GMT

#67

nothing big, this was expected since Riot don't want any big changes during the upcoming tournaments but they don't even play on the current patch so

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

October 05 2011 02:10 GMT

#68

I still don't understand how it isn't completely obvious that he's trolling.

Since when was "spin to win" a point of balance?

Kaneh

Canada737 Posts

October 05 2011 02:14 GMT

#69

since garen came out and everyone who facechecked bushes shed rivers of tears.

Yttrasil

Sweden651 Posts

October 05 2011 02:14 GMT

#70

Tbh I'm a little surprised that Riven isn't getting any durability nerfs just yet, I think they might wait a bit more so see how it turns out but as of now she's slowly moving into the OP category. Does anyone else agree on this?

Gooey

United States944 Posts

October 05 2011 02:14 GMT

#71

On October 05 2011 09:34 Frolossus wrote:
lets see
so they didn't touch akali and barely touched lee sin?

Akali is not much a problem, she only hurts in the mid game. If the game goes on too long, and you haven't been diving like crazy chasing hero kills with her, you aren't going to get much done. Her sustainability in fights is rather low for a melee AP champion. She has one combo burst, and that is it. Most good supports will have oracles by the time she becomes a serious threat, and she has no escape outside of her W. If you build her too tanky, she won't do enough damage to matter, and has a weak CC.

She is rather good in dominion, though, where big team fights aren't exactly what you want to be doing. She shines more in 1v1, 2v2, and 3v3 type situations. With akali, you want to be diving in for hard pokes and backing out again. That suits dominion a lot better.

As far as Lee Sin, I think what they are doing is fine. Chopping off some of his cooldowns and range helps control his mid game a little better. It also takes away some of his chase, which is a big reason he is so good. 750 range on his leap was a bit much for chasing enemies down. He is still a strong jungler, but he isn't unmanageable by any means. He will definitely do well against a team with poor map vision, but so does any jungler.

I like that they only nerfed him just slightly, as well as morgana, to see if problems smooth out a little. I am not a fan of drastic changes in the nerf or buff department. Both champs are banned in 70% of my games right now, so riot listened. I am eager to see how these changes play out.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

October 05 2011 02:17 GMT

#72

On October 05 2011 11:14 Yttrasil wrote:
Tbh I'm a little surprised that Riven isn't getting any durability nerfs just yet, I think they might wait a bit more so see how it turns out but as of now she's slowly moving into the OP category. Does anyone else agree on this?

The one thing that stands out about Riven is her insane scaling lategame.

If I were to predict a change to Riven, it would be a buff to early-game while hitting her lategame scaling. I can't say I'd like that, seeing as I don't like how Riot continues to move to homogenizing everyone's power curve, but given their track record, this is what's most likely.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

October 05 2011 02:18 GMT

#73

Bullet Time now scales with attack damage and ability power

Her ulti still sucks.

Kaneh

Canada737 Posts

October 05 2011 02:19 GMT

#74

the problem is and has always been sustain, and gunblade provides way too much of it. even the individual parts provide too much of it, letting you rush it and still stay in lane. (oh man, morde/vlad got thier revolver, they'll never need to leave lane now)

koreasilver

9109 Posts

October 05 2011 02:21 GMT

#75

On October 05 2011 11:05 taLbuk wrote:
well? it seems nobody else thinks the game should be balanced around all levels of play?

I actually cannot believe something like this is said on a starcraft forum.

and even considering this point, wukong sucks.

sylverfyre

United States8298 Posts

October 05 2011 02:45 GMT

#76

On October 05 2011 09:41 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:

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I got stuck on Morde and couldn't figure out why they would call them zombies. Makes much more sense when you remember Yorick.

Karthus is actually a better example. Continuing to channel Nether Grasp on dead karthus?

Shauni

4077 Posts

October 05 2011 02:47 GMT

#77

yea they should really take a closer look at riven, she might have some counters toplane, but she seems incredibly strong vs most champs there. And kog maw needs a serious nerf. No AD carry even comes close in lategame...

And lee's nerf wasnt big enough most likely, but we'll see.