EPTKass, Ryze
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NeoIllusions
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 19 2011 02:09 Mogwai wrote: Lee Sin is actually unimpressive, all it took was saying fuck it, I'ma build DPS jarman again and now I think Lee Sin is totally fair once again. But kog man, dat damage + range is absurd. No one's even close in the late game. Pick melee dps, grab exhaust. Jump on Kog and NOMNOMNOM his health. | ||
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-Zoda-
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Deleted User 3420
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On October 19 2011 02:14 Requizen wrote: Pick melee dps, grab exhaust. Jump on Kog and NOMNOMNOM his health. it's that easy! nothing bad could possibly happen to you when you jump behind their team and "nomnonom" kog's health | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On October 19 2011 02:13 NeoIllusions wrote: Except remember how long you raged about LS? Kog I'm with you but all those months of pent up LS rage was just hilar. lol yea, fucking lee sin. I mean, objectively, he's still too strong, but meh, fuck it, so many bad ones out there now, you can just molest people for trying to abuse an OP champ that they actually suck with. and re everyone else, good fucking luck getting on top of Kog. Nocturne's is the only dash that's long enough to get within Kog's range, which is really the only way to get ontop of him without getting blowed up instantly. Assuming Kog's team knows that all they need to do is protect Kog and Kog isn't a baddy and builds IE + PDPD, you're basically fucked late game unless you're already miles ahead. | ||
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AwayFromLife
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 19 2011 02:18 travis wrote: it's that easy! nothing bad could possibly happen to you when you jump behind their team and "nomnonom" kog's health I was more being facetious about how squishy he is, but that doesn't come across well on the internet  My thing about Kog is, he's the best AD carry in a perfect scenario. By and far, but often he doesn't get to that point. He's not super strong in lane, and really relies on his support to cover him. Mid (if you play that comp style), he needs ganks early and often or he's back against a tower the whole time. And yeah, in an ideal situation, his team will perfectly protect him and he'll just get to rip through the enemy, but let's be honest, how often does that happen? Yes, in a perfect game, where his team supports him and he gets free farm, he's so dominant that it doesn't seem fair, but games like that are few and far between. Early game he's one of the easiest to shut down, and until he has his full build, most other carries out-do him. He's still great, but I wouldn't focus my rage on him or call him OP. | ||
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Craton
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nyxnyxnyx
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Any advice on what to play? What I like in Swain and Morgana is their beefiness (as AP carries) and utility, so what would you suggest aside from obvious Lux (kit) and Annie (ability to get learnt fast)? I liked Brand but he's more glass-cannony, and Ryze but isn't he relatively easy to counterpick on mid? Anivia's got utility too but I didn't like her when I tried her (played her wrong too, I'll admit). | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On October 19 2011 01:22 JackDino wrote: It's not Tuesday morning in Europe/asia:p, mainly europe. Tuesday morning in the US means monday night/really early tuesday morning in Europe. Pretty impressive numbers tbh. | ||
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Orpheos
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
ok i dont get both of them. Ryze gets oom faster than cassio and kassadin is generally picked vs burst champions and not vs sustained damage. I dont have alot of experience with ryze though. But with kassadin I dont wanna face cassio since she kinda does 2 times more damage on every trade and zones kassadin away from the lasthits. When you somehow managed to get even until 6 then you can only do a RQE when your 100% certain that the jungler is somewhere else or you have a flash advantage or she can ult,ignite,chase you to death with some assistance from any kind of jungler that has a disable. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 19 2011 02:36 Alaric wrote: So I'm playing more drafts and I sometimes get asked to mid (still the most rarely out of any role, strangely :') ), and what with Morgana FOTM 1st ban status and Swain not being that hot in AP duels I guess it's time to buy something else (until some other champ replace my beloved purple thingy in people's tunnel vision). Any advice on what to play? What I like in Swain and Morgana is their beefiness (as AP carries) and utility, so what would you suggest aside from obvious Lux (kit) and Annie (ability to get learnt fast)? I liked Brand but he's more glass-cannony, and Ryze but isn't he relatively easy to counterpick on mid? Anivia's got utility too but I didn't like her when I tried her (played her wrong too, I'll admit). Gragas | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 19 2011 02:35 Craton wrote: You don't need perfection. You just need your team to not have lost by the time you get to the end of midgame. You'll just about autowin from there. Eh, I guess in my low Elo that doesn't happen, the only times I see a completely dominant Kog is when the game gets to the ~45 minute mark and we have no assassins on our team. I often find that one player suiciding to kill Kog generally ends up as a win for the non-Kog team, as the rest of his teammates aren't as amazing without him. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On October 19 2011 01:06 NeoIllusions wrote: What I don't get is, "why regress?". Last year, we got a free rune page out of voting LoL into 1st place. This year we get an IP boost instead? Real. Hm. I think stunt last year was for publicity. Now LoL doesn't really need any. In fact, it may even be too successful in some ways haha. On October 19 2011 01:14 KillerSOS wrote: Just started playing. I'm a HoN player so its not that hard to get used to, just different metagame and item builds. I'm playing Vayne  Hai, welcome to our sub-forum! Vayne is awesome. If you like Vayne, get the Monster Hunter Skin. One of the best skins in the whole game imoimo. On October 19 2011 02:36 Alaric wrote: Any advice on what to play? What I like in Swain and Morgana is their beefiness (as AP carries) and utility, so what would you suggest aside from obvious. Gragas or Kassadin maybe. Then you can be like Shushei/xPeke cause they like those champs too. In fact, in terms of base stats, I think Kass is even more tankier than Swain, especially with that passive. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On October 19 2011 02:36 Alaric wrote: So I'm playing more drafts and I sometimes get asked to mid (still the most rarely out of any role, strangely :') ), and what with Morgana FOTM 1st ban status and Swain not being that hot in AP duels I guess it's time to buy something else (until some other champ replace my beloved purple thingy in people's tunnel vision). Any advice on what to play? What I like in Swain and Morgana is their beefiness (as AP carries) and utility, so what would you suggest aside from obvious Lux (kit) and Annie (ability to get learnt fast)? I liked Brand but he's more glass-cannony, and Ryze but isn't he relatively easy to counterpick on mid? Anivia's got utility too but I didn't like her when I tried her (played her wrong too, I'll admit). Orianna is still OP as shit, people just have forgotten her with the olds instabans. Just try it, 800 range harass and 1100 range burst still is good, not to say she still has the most utility out of all the AP mids you'll see. AoE stun, AoE speed/slow, shield. | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
On October 19 2011 02:43 clickrush wrote: ok i dont get both of them. Ryze gets oom faster than cassio and kassadin is generally picked vs burst champions and not vs sustained damage. I dont have alot of experience with ryze though. Once you have tear on Ryze you can match Cass' harass pretty easily with Q. | ||
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R04R
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