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[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 95

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Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
September 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#1881
Playing Dominion makes me worry about new champion releases and balance between the two maps. You can tell Riven was designed for Dominion with how the items fit her better and the emphasis on mobility/less on sustain. I know they think they can just balance things with items, but I don't see it.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
September 21 2011 16:50 GMT
#1882
Dominion is about as balanced as TT.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 21 2011 16:57 GMT
#1883
On September 22 2011 01:46 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 01:42 Seuss wrote:
I hereby veto abbreviating Crystal Scar to CS.

Well...since cs is irrelevant in Dominion, I don't mind Crystal Scar being called CS


If you play DotA/HoN/LoL CS is creep score, it's a genre-wide acronym. Even if it isn't applicable in the very specific context of Dominion giving it a different meaning in that context will only lead to confusion and terror.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 17:00:22
September 21 2011 16:59 GMT
#1884
Haha AP heroes are sooooooooooo awful on Dominion ...

EDIT: Except maybe Rumble and he's a tanky dps anyways.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
September 21 2011 17:03 GMT
#1885
Play (most) bruisers or assassins. Win every game.

Play AD/Mage and lose.
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ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
September 21 2011 17:04 GMT
#1886
On September 22 2011 01:22 Goshawk. wrote:
Rock Solid becomes Team Dignitas:

http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/news/League-of-Legends/382/Team-Dignitas-welcome-new-League-of-Legends-team/

Rambo not on the roster?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 17:05:20
September 21 2011 17:05 GMT
#1887
On September 22 2011 02:03 Craton wrote:
Play (most) bruisers or assassins. Win every game.

Play AD/Mage and lose.


ezreal seems pretty good

feel like I should just play akali every game though lol
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
ak1knight
Profile Joined April 2010
United States313 Posts
September 21 2011 17:07 GMT
#1888
On September 22 2011 02:03 Craton wrote:
Play (most) bruisers or assassins. Win every game.

Play AD/Mage and lose.

Yep, last game we had a Lee Sin go 11-0 and we won 450-0. Other game the other team had Kat/Morde/Akali and they raped us every team fight; only lost by 20 because we kept backdooring and they wouldn't split up.
w00t
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 17:16:17
September 21 2011 17:07 GMT
#1889
Played a half dozen games.

The balance is truly horrendous. Bruisers and Assassins completely dominate AD/AP carries and generally have no mana or mobility concerns. The pickups on the map are completely useless; a "health pack" heals from 100-200hp, when you've got 1.8-3khp. It has no meaningful effect on gameplay.

Additionally, the reward for capturing a point (100g) is insignificant and does not come close to matching the reward for people who simply zerg fights at nodes instead of attempting objectives.

I hugely disliked Dominion.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 17:08:33
September 21 2011 17:07 GMT
#1890
Vayne is pretty solid too, from what I've seen. Caitlyn not so much.

Yeah the health packs were completely disappointing. I expected them to be at least 30% heal. All they were is some mana restore for low-mana bruisers who only need 200ish mana to be effective.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 21 2011 17:08 GMT
#1891
...so I was gone for a couple days and the first thing I see being posted in EU LP:

http://gobarbra.com/hit/new-cff89d0b01b97b6582874c50552bafa5

Not much fun in Stalingrad. Not much fun at all.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Iskusstvo
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom323 Posts
September 21 2011 17:10 GMT
#1892
Oh wow, first queue over 5 minutes I've seen since EU split. Well then, time to wait.
If your life had a face, I'd punch it. I'd punch your life in the face.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 17:13:47
September 21 2011 17:11 GMT
#1893
NEVERMIND
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 21 2011 17:11 GMT
#1894
I mean it shouldnt come as a surprise, we already have seen dominion a ton on streams and shit. We already knew it was retarded. It is like SC2 gonna take a long time to polish or its gonna get canned like TT.
Brees on in
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 21 2011 17:12 GMT
#1895
talon is so ridiculously strong on dominion lmao
it was fun i guess
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#1896
Dominion makes balancing actually easyer. As long as a champ is viable in one of the modes then they dont have to buff him and they can concentrate on champs that are OP in at least one or UP in both modes.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 17:14:54
September 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#1897
On September 22 2011 02:12 gtrsrs wrote:
talon is so ridiculously strong on dominion lmao
it was fun i guess

[11:55] <Craton> jax talon akali udyr + 1 i think will win every game

Kat probably ridiculous on Dom too.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#1898
On September 22 2011 01:48 Seiuchi wrote:
Playing Dominion makes me worry about new champion releases and balance between the two maps. You can tell Riven was designed for Dominion with how the items fit her better and the emphasis on mobility/less on sustain. I know they think they can just balance things with items, but I don't see it.


I think that Riven is pretty good in standard Summoners Rift play as well, just she is rather weak in the early game.

I think she has a niche somewhere inbetween brawlers/assasins. She has some really good AoE burst with 3xQ and W.

Don't get me wrong, Riven is no Akali, but she is pretty strong I think. Ideally W could have a better stun (I think it is actually shorter than the animation...) but meh.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
September 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#1899
On September 22 2011 02:08 r.Evo wrote:
...so I was gone for a couple days and the first thing I see being posted in EU LP:

http://gobarbra.com/hit/new-cff89d0b01b97b6582874c50552bafa5

Not much fun in Stalingrad. Not much fun at all.


Can we get a retrospective nomination for that songs of summoners contest or whatnot? LOL
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 21 2011 17:18 GMT
#1900
It's like TT in that way. Squishy carries need to play passively and get built, bruisers and assassins can do great damage with a few items and their base abilities. Therefore, in these short games, you get Carries stuck in that "good but still need more items" phase while assassins/bruisers just get to stomp all over the map.

It also looks way too fast paced for carries that need positioning to win. Cait, for example, needs to position right, trap the right areas, and play methodically, which this doesn't help with. We'll see after some tweaking.
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