EPT[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 45
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Then again, like you said, it's much easier at 6 with the ult. Can't wait for work to be over to test :\ | ||
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Southlight
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On September 17 2011 02:20 Southlight wrote: I believe all? physical damage skills draw aggro. This includes stuff like GP's Parrley, MF's double-up, and I think Pantheon's cane-chuck. Edit: Targeted ones I mean. Volley and other such AoE ones obviously don't. I thought it was only spells that apply on-hit effects. But then that covers most of the physical non-AoE point-and-click nukes. Volley is different because it doesn't consider the slow as an on-hit effect I believe. It's considered as part of the spell. The same rule applies for any other dual-condition spell. The easiest way to check for this is to see if Red Buff or Phage applies to the spell. EDIT: Ninja'd! | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 17 2011 02:25 Southlight wrote: Ahhhh, I see. But IIRC Volley applies Frost but doesn't trigger O_o; Le confuze. that's a special effect of Volley, not an application of an on-hit effect. if I have red buff and I hit a volley, it doesn't apply the red buff. in other words, it's coded to just check for frost shot, not for on-hit effects, whereas the other abilities I described all apply all on-hit effects. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On September 17 2011 02:25 Southlight wrote: Ahhhh, I see. But IIRC Volley applies Frost but doesn't trigger O_o; Le confuze. It doesn't apply on hit effects, only frost shot, even when it's turned off. Part of the spell. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Edit: Can't let this get off without a quip about Riot actually coding a skill to work uniquely and not have it break the game engine! Oh mah gahd! | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 17 2011 02:29 Southlight wrote: I see. Edit: Can't let this get off without a quip about Riot actually coding a skill to work uniquely and not have it break the game engine! Oh mah gahd! Can't let you get off without a quip about how your quip doesn't make any sense. What are you even quipping about you quippy young lad? | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
First pick says he's a roamer. Picks Evelynn, insta locks. Trollfest begins. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On September 17 2011 02:29 Southlight wrote: I see. Edit: Can't let this get off without a quip about Riot actually coding a skill to work uniquely and not have it break the game engine! Oh mah gahd! Herro everynyan, how arrr you? Fine, sank you. So a question, TL. When do you want to pick Cait, Trist, Ashe, Vayne, etc. in solo queue? Is it based around who the other AD will be bot lane, or is is better to just go with what you're more comfortable with? Are they any particular traits that you should emphasise when choosing your AD Carry? On September 17 2011 02:32 Mogwai wrote: Can't let you get off without a quip about how your quip doesn't make any sense. What are you even quipping about you quippy young lad? + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Then again in retrospect I guess they can just code Volley to be a skillshot snare with hit collision, so I just looked at the skill the wrong way :< Edit: So a question, TL. When do you want to pick Cait, Trist, Ashe, Vayne, etc. in solo queue? Is it based around who the other AD will be bot lane, or is is better to just go with what you're more comfortable with? Are they any particular traits that you should emphasise when choosing your AD Carry? I think Cait is the most pubstomp, and more newbie friendly, as she makes you look really pro. She's also very good at bot lane. Trist needs more coordination with teammate if you want to get anything done, although she can still play like Cait. Ashe is horrible bot lane so you rarely wanna pick her. Vayne is ok with good matchup but I still hate on her as a hero. MF and Corki are both heroes similar to Ashe in that I think they're simply better in a solo lane, even if no one wants to give them a solo lane anymore. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On September 17 2011 02:37 Southlight wrote: I figured Volley was just a skill that procced only its own on-hit (like Parrley before it procced on-hits but applied Groggy), didn't actually think Riot had managed to do something not-that, on such an early hero. Then again in retrospect I guess they can just code Volley to be a skillshot snare with hit collision, so I just looked at the skill the wrong way :< Edit: I think Cait is the most pubstomp, and more newbie friendly, as she makes you look really pro. She's also very good at bot lane. Trist needs more coordination with teammate if you want to get anything done, although she can still play like Cait. Ashe is horrible bot lane so you rarely wanna pick her. Vayne is ok with good matchup but I still hate on her as a hero. MF and Corki are both heroes similar to Ashe in that I think they're simply better in a solo lane, even if no one wants to give them a solo lane anymore. Parrley used to apply on hit effects but not it's passive, the other way around of what you said. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 17 2011 02:37 Southlight wrote: I figured Volley was just a skill that procced only its own on-hit (like Parrley before it procced on-hits but applied Groggy), didn't actually think Riot had managed to do something not-that, on such an early hero. Then again in retrospect I guess they can just code Volley to be a skillshot snare with hit collision, so I just looked at the skill the wrong way :< dealing with it as proccing only it's own hit is more of a pain in the ass than just: if(frostShot.level > 0) { guyGettingHit.Slowed = frostShot.SlowValue; } but even if we assume it only procced it's own on-hit effect, the simplest way to do that would be to ignore all other on-hit effects and only proc the slow. drawing minion aggro is coded as an on-hit effect and since it's not the frost shot, it would still interact the same way unless you went out of your way to make it not act that way. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
Incoming Ashe Fix | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
It just didn't occur to me until after the post that that's a complicated way to code what ends up just looking like a 8 (now 6) pronged hit-box spell that happens to have an ice effect, similar to Anivia FF, lol. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
i am sorry, but isnt this at least a month old? why post it now actually, youtube says its over a year old. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Thats a super old bug... | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Working as intended, obviously. ...oh wait, this isn't Blizzard. It might get fixed in the next 3 months. | ||
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