EPT[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 30
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On September 16 2011 01:05 Juicyfruit wrote: Q was much stronger before everybody and their mothers start boots first in lane. It was also godlike with the AoE bug but that didn`t last too long. Just like to point out that casseiopia`s Q has 0.9AP ratio and has 3 second cooldown. It was pretty bogus when you couldn`t dodge it. Blame Brand and his stupid " My pillar will hit you if you don't have boots" I used to play AP mid back in December last year, and boot first would have be seen as newbie as hell back then. And now i hate having to get boots first. I feel dirty starting like that. | ||
NonY
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On September 16 2011 01:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote: boom bam pow shizam ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cETLg.png) Teach me ze way. | ||
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Craton
United States17233 Posts
On September 16 2011 01:08 Mogwai wrote: Just an FYI, I will be exclusively solo queueing on my main to prove a bunch of whiny smashers wrong about how high elo is only high elo because they have high elo friends that they duo with. I'll be happy to duo on Gizbro and Rock Rock On though. psh, this season is all about playing champs in ranked for the first time | ||
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Zenithal
United States142 Posts
On September 16 2011 01:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote: boom bam pow shizam Tyler, teach me your ways. Namely, build. I'm still so confused :S | ||
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NonY
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lol what elo are you? im definitely beating up people that dont know what to do vs me. im around 1290 (1540 season 1) im going dorans mercs brutalizer BT mallet. in lane pre-6, playing her like pantheon essentially. ignite flash. really strong level 6, since range gets increased, it's easier to land stun when you have ult up. and it's easy to burst them down far enough to finish them off with active ult, which has a huge range. level up W | ||
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
On September 16 2011 01:08 Mogwai wrote: Just an FYI, I will be exclusively solo queueing on my main to prove a bunch of whiny smashers wrong about how high elo is only high elo because they have high elo friends that they duo with. I'll be happy to duo on Gizbro and Rock Rock On though. Duo queue blows, what the fuck. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Zenithal
United States142 Posts
On September 16 2011 01:42 Liquid`Tyler wrote: lol what elo are you? im definitely beating up people that dont know what to do vs me. im around 1290 (1540 season 1) im going dorans mercs brutalizer BT mallet. in lane pre-6, playing her like pantheon essentially. ignite flash. really strong level 6, since range gets increased, it's easier to land stun when you have ult up. and it's easy to burst them down far enough to finish them off with active ult, which has a huge range. level up W So R > W > E > Q? | ||
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Craton
United States17233 Posts
On September 16 2011 01:44 Ryuu314 wrote: I find that without duo que u can't count on ur team to not lose every lane. go top, put on that idgaf face, rape your lane, come by after lane phase and just superman enemy team | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On September 16 2011 01:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote: boom bam pow shizam i am so jelly, WEST has Rp purchases AND riven deactivated, so i still cant even buy nor play her. | ||
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Brambled
United States750 Posts
First game I get insta lock kat when other teams first pick was leona. And then last pick we needed support and we get a jarv. Could be worse but I really hate being top pick knowing that I am a scrub I scares me of those under me. | ||
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NonY
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yeah pretty much. if i've been dominating lane and i just want more burst, i've been sneaking in some more Q's before E's. but i think i max W first always | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
Note: I suck at this game. Riven just feels too damn derp in teamfights. If the intention was for her to feel like playing a fighter, it both succeeds and fails. I think her passive, while not great, is perfectly fine. Her Q is fairly well designed and I have no complaints there. That being said, let’s go down to business. The main problem with Riven is that there is just no incentive to autoattack. Why would I autoattack when I can run around flipping like a fucking waffle? Sure, there are the “3 charges” from the passive, but she plays like Renekton and Garen in this sense of being a melee CD based champion. Garen rarely autoattacks as he’s too busy pressing Q and E, and Renekton just QWE facerolls. Compared to Yi, who has an insane attack steroid and damage boost, or Tryndamere, who has two insane damage boosts and Undying Rage, there’s virtually no “oomph” to going melee. I have higher DPS going speedakaiser. Next: W: The problem with W is not its implementation but how dependent it is on the ultimate for it to be of any use. Its non-ultimate range is too damn short and the stun is barely noticeable. I think this can be fixed by allowing W to cancel longer animations, such as Q. Fighting games, a significant amount of the time, uses animation cancelling as a way of getting off more combos. I think by having W as an animation canceller, it can help to channel the “fighting game” experience, and also make landing it or using Q as a weird escape easier. As it is, W does not cancel animations from E and Q and neatly as I would like. They should also make any ability/attack cancellable into W. E: First off, I hate the whole fucking shield mechanic that Riot has been forcefeeding us with people like Rumble and Skarner and so on. So I’m not a terrible fan of it on this ability. Secondly, shields are fucking boring. I really hate shields. That said I like the idea of a short repositioning dash, and a way to let her be more effective as an actually melee DPS (and not a melee caster) is to give her E super armor. Super Armor meaning invulnerability to hitstuns and shit. So yes, give her a very short period in her dash where she is immune to CC. Like, “vulnerable----super armor----vulnerable.” Lower the ratio on her shield to make up for this. R: I like the whole damage and range boost, except suddenly you now have Renekton 2.0, minus the tankiness and with half the dash distance. And the ultimate active is a fucking carrion swarm. Let’s mix it up a bit. Keep the damage and range boost, but change the active from some weird aoe execute into something more sword related. Like a friggin narrow, linear sword cut that strikes several times, about the size of Jarvan’s Dragon Strike. Get her to raise her sword in the air, have it suddenly glow to twice its size, and then she swings it into the ground in front of her, striking all targets in the line 2/3/4 times (with on-hit effects, or at least her passive). Will it be hard to hit? Yes. Will it be fun? Yes. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Second biggest complain: E should at least dash through the same walls as nidalee can do with pounce. | ||
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
On September 16 2011 01:49 Caller wrote: My concerns with Riven 天候 天気雨！ For everyone else, sorry for the somewhat inside joke. | ||
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