[Patch 1.0.0.124: Talon] General Discussion - Page 67
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					zerkers, gunblade, rageblade, pd and LW in progress. the ap ratio on impure shots (W) is 0.25 when stacked which is a better ratio than jax has on his R. With gunblade and rageblade thats about 70+(28to42) damage per shot depending on rageblade stacks. so every 4th shot it adds up to a generic caster single target nuke just from the impure shots. E scales with 0.8 and is AoE which is a nice addition imo. the spellvamp+lifesteal is sick along with the additional slow. could easily solo a farmed tryndamere with her because i kited him with my two slows long enough to get my health back everytime he hit me. iam thinking about getting rabadons+lichbane instead of pd now lol. her R scales with 0.2*8 on AP, and her Q adds on hit.  | ||
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					although i guess kayle cant either and people still get it on her.  | ||
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					No one else can global teleport besides him anymore and global teleport is still imba. On August 30 2011 04:01 clickrush wrote: I just carried a ranked game with MF and this build: zerkers, gunblade, rageblade, pd and LW in progress. the ap ratio on impure shots (W) is 0.25 when stacked which is a better ratio than jax has on his R. With gunblade and rageblade thats about 70+(28to42) damage per shot depending on rageblade stacks. so every 4th shot it adds up to a generic caster single target nuke just from the impure shots. E scales with 0.8 and is AoE which is a nice addition imo. the spellvamp+lifesteal is sick along with the additional slow. could easily solo a farmed tryndamere with her because i kited him with my two slows long enough to get my health back everytime he hit me. iam thinking about getting rabadons+lichbane instead of pd now lol. her R scales with 0.2*8 on AP, and her Q adds on hit. It's a shame that her ult only scales with either AD or AP, not both, or else this is a build I'd really go for. Bloodthister is very much superior in my opinion to gunblade on her.  | ||
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					On August 30 2011 04:04 Orpheos wrote: not sure how efficient rageblade is on someone who cant keep it charged easily. although i guess kayle cant either and people still get it on her. you actually keep them up all the times since she spams alot of autos and abilities -.-  | ||
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					On August 30 2011 03:58 Juicyfruit wrote: Shen has no place in the game because bot lane is support + ranged AD now. That's his biggest problem to me. A freefarming shen is a joke when up against a free-farming AD. Keep in mind that at my level things aren't that developed, a team only has a jungler about 25% of the time.  | ||
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					His global tele is pretty good still though, but yeah. He's getting worked on.  | ||
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					On August 30 2011 03:19 Southlight wrote: At sub1400 you just sit there tanking their team 1v5 and two-shotting everyone lol, after the 30 minute laning phase that let you build up to +300 with 300cs because everyone sucks too much to stop you from farming and Nasus is obnoxious to gank (and people are too stupid to re-gank after ult goes down). i always get a 5 min laning phase in low elo and then 1st tower dies and everybody gathers at midlane oO  | ||
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					The end.  | ||
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					On August 30 2011 04:08 UniversalSnip wrote: true tales from my brief time in sub 1400: every game, somebody on your team will say "I carry so hard." or "never forget this skill" or something similarly hilarious. Every game, winning or losing, the worst player on your team (the one getting caught the most) will say "we have no tank". IF one team invades the enemy jungle their jungler will always smite the big wraith and proceed to fail his route because everything but wolves will kill him. LOL i totally did this trying to learn jungle nocturne. i tell team i'm smiting my big wraith then going wolves so smite is off cd once i get to double golems, they say why not smite theirs? so i figure why the hell not...end up having to back twice before getting red and was underleveled the whole game. lesson learned.  | ||
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					On August 30 2011 04:40 NSANE.hydra wrote: LOL i totally did this trying to learn jungle nocturne. i tell team i'm smiting my big wraith then going wolves so smite is off cd once i get to double golems, they say why not smite theirs? so i figure why the hell not...end up having to back twice before getting red and was underleveled the whole game. lesson learned. You can Smite their big wraith, kills the little ones, kill wolves, wait like 5 seconds at your wraith for smite to come back up, wraiths, double golems. Thats with a 1/8/21 - armor pen reds quints - vamp scepter build.  | ||
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					On August 30 2011 04:43 GranDim wrote: You can Smite their big wraith, kills the little ones, kill wolves, wait like 5 seconds at your wraith for smite to come back up, wraiths, double golems. Thats with a 1/8/21 - armor pen reds quints - vamp scepter build. yeahh that's the build i was using. thanks for the tip haha, i'm pretty lost when it comes to jungling. i know a few routes on a handful of junglers so that i can jungle in a pinch, but i don't know the ins and outs of it at all   just the bare minimum, i generally don't try stealing anything or counterjungling or anything overly risky. | ||
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					On August 30 2011 04:16 Craton wrote: People are still banning rammus? I'm tickled by this. People also ban malphite and shen. Be glad you're not in my elo. ^_^  | ||
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					On August 30 2011 04:50 NSANE.hydra wrote: yeahh that's the build i was using. thanks for the tip haha, i'm pretty lost when it comes to jungling. i know a few routes on a handful of junglers so that i can jungle in a pinch, but i don't know the ins and outs of it at all   just the bare minimum, i generally don't try stealing anything or counterjungling or anything overly risky.basically, if you see their jungler somewhere, you can take the other half of his jungle. also, i need new champ rotation for my new account soon, getting bored :D  | ||
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 just the bare minimum, i generally don't try stealing anything or counterjungling or anything overly risky.