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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 25 2011 15:30 GMT
#601
I think Id rather have support sion now instead of support taric. Better ult, the ability to actually mess around a bit aggressively, and equal heals.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 25 2011 15:32 GMT
#602
FORTIFY RALLY EVELYNN ON MY TEAM, GOOD GAME INCOMING
aww, she switched
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 25 2011 15:33 GMT
#603
I just want to see stunbot/Urgot bot lane.
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 15:45:43
August 25 2011 15:44 GMT
#604
This new UI gives me a massive headache.. so many akward gradients, strong colors and glow effects surround everything.. WTF is this.

And the kill announcement is just so fucking redudant when you already have one in the middle. I dont care who gets the assists..

Worst change in the history of LoL
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 15:58:26
August 25 2011 15:56 GMT
#605
Kayle is really strong this patch.

don't think she should be built towards ap or hybrid. She does really crazy splash dmg, and q scales off ad. Something like ad, but not squishy ad because of her low range.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 25 2011 15:59 GMT
#606
Soraka Zilean lane real strong. How many duos can actually deal with being double-bombed repeatedly by a speed-boosted zilean who doesn't need to conserve mana. Pushing the lane is okay because it's such a pain in the ass to gank them ?_?
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 25 2011 16:01 GMT
#607
On August 26 2011 00:59 Juicyfruit wrote:
Soraka Zilean lane real strong. How many duos can actually deal with being double-bombed repeatedly by a speed-boosted zilean who doesn't need to conserve mana. Pushing the lane is okay because it's such a pain in the ass to gank them ?_?


Why? Neither of them can really resist ganks all that well.

Speed boosts are poor gank escapes imo because when you get a stun on you it's mostly wasted. A flash-esque skill doesn't get wasted even if you get stunned.
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
August 25 2011 16:09 GMT
#608
Why would you want to run Soraka solo over anyone else? Everyone is saying that it's viable but why would you want to put the character who does absolutely no damage on your highest farm lane?

Sure, for troll comps/games, but people (not just on tl) are talking about it like it's actually going to be high-level viable...
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 25 2011 16:10 GMT
#609
On August 26 2011 00:28 0123456789 wrote:
Soraka is still really strong. Extra 120 armor in a fight means a lot if you're someone like jax who is forced to tank and that pretty much means pressing r and jumping on some1, stunning as many as possible with a squishy, and then taking 5 man ff. It helps A LOT. Crazy survivability. Except people player her as solo now, and she's pretty strong there but she doesn't really deal dmg, just a support solo.

She does deal a lot of damage actually if you build her tanky enough to be able to just stand in the middle of everything and spam Starcall. The increased MRes reduction amplifies the damage your allies deal by a ton.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 25 2011 16:13 GMT
#610
On August 26 2011 00:56 0123456789 wrote:
Kayle is really strong this patch.

don't think she should be built towards ap or hybrid. She does really crazy splash dmg, and q scales off ad. Something like ad, but not squishy ad because of her low range.


Shoes > Gunblade > Triforce

Works on everything
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
August 25 2011 16:13 GMT
#611
On August 26 2011 01:10 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 00:28 0123456789 wrote:
Soraka is still really strong. Extra 120 armor in a fight means a lot if you're someone like jax who is forced to tank and that pretty much means pressing r and jumping on some1, stunning as many as possible with a squishy, and then taking 5 man ff. It helps A LOT. Crazy survivability. Except people player her as solo now, and she's pretty strong there but she doesn't really deal dmg, just a support solo.

She does deal a lot of damage actually if you build her tanky enough to be able to just stand in the middle of everything and spam Starcall. The increased MRes reduction amplifies the damage your allies deal by a ton.

Tanky soraka? My world just exploded....

Also, regardless of whether it's technically viable or not, it seems to me like there are 10-20 better picks for that same role.
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 16:16:33
August 25 2011 16:16 GMT
#612
On August 26 2011 01:13 HyperionDreamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 01:10 spinesheath wrote:
On August 26 2011 00:28 0123456789 wrote:
Soraka is still really strong. Extra 120 armor in a fight means a lot if you're someone like jax who is forced to tank and that pretty much means pressing r and jumping on some1, stunning as many as possible with a squishy, and then taking 5 man ff. It helps A LOT. Crazy survivability. Except people player her as solo now, and she's pretty strong there but she doesn't really deal dmg, just a support solo.

She does deal a lot of damage actually if you build her tanky enough to be able to just stand in the middle of everything and spam Starcall. The increased MRes reduction amplifies the damage your allies deal by a ton.

Tanky soraka? My world just exploded....

Also, regardless of whether it's technically viable or not, it seems to me like there are 10-20 better picks for that same role.

Tanky as in: Rylais, RoA, Abyssal, maybe even WotA. Her passive and W provide you with mitigation.
Makes perfect sense if you consider that she took quite hit on her AP ratios and that you need to be in the middle of the fight if you want to deal damage.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
August 25 2011 16:34 GMT
#613
why do i always get the horrible 1st time test talons on my team and the other team's carry?
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 25 2011 16:38 GMT
#614
On August 26 2011 01:34 snow2.0 wrote:
why do i always get the horrible 1st time test talons on my team and the other team's carry?

Ban talon this week. every game.

also anyone else HATE the new scoreboard? the last one was smaller and had abit of transparency so I could bring it up and glance without obscuring my view too much. the new one is just so distracting. maybe im just not used to it yet. but man is it hard to parse. also i didnt realize how jarring these UI changes would be. even in the game finish screen, its so much harder for me to see anything.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 25 2011 16:39 GMT
#615
On August 26 2011 01:38 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 01:34 snow2.0 wrote:
why do i always get the horrible 1st time test talons on my team and the other team's carry?

Ban talon this week. every game.

also anyone else HATE the new scoreboard? the last one was smaller and had abit of transparency so I could bring it up and glance without obscuring my view too much. the new one is just so distracting. maybe im just not used to it yet. but man is it hard to parse. also i didnt realize how jarring these UI changes would be. even in the game finish screen, its so much harder for me to see anything.

Idk why theyd change it

Just looks annoying
In the woods, there lurks..
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 16:48:57
August 25 2011 16:41 GMT
#616
On August 26 2011 01:01 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 00:59 Juicyfruit wrote:
Soraka Zilean lane real strong. How many duos can actually deal with being double-bombed repeatedly by a speed-boosted zilean who doesn't need to conserve mana. Pushing the lane is okay because it's such a pain in the ass to gank them ?_?


Why? Neither of them can really resist ganks all that well.

Speed boosts are poor gank escapes imo because when you get a stun on you it's mostly wasted. A flash-esque skill doesn't get wasted even if you get stunned.


Soraka silence outranges common gap closers from the jungler and stops their flash as well so it's VERY hard to get them if you have ward to let you know in advance.

You just have to not play like a total moron. Ideally get your jungler to pressure bot lane super early to get them away from the creeps so that zilean can put a double bomb without pushing the lane, and then after that it's like hello.

It won't work out perfectly everytime but when it does work, it's basically a total shutdown.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 25 2011 16:43 GMT
#617
On August 26 2011 01:13 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 00:56 0123456789 wrote:
Kayle is really strong this patch.

don't think she should be built towards ap or hybrid. She does really crazy splash dmg, and q scales off ad. Something like ad, but not squishy ad because of her low range.


Shoes > Gunblade > Triforce

Works on everything


Gunblade on kayle is crap. But kayle is really strong, especially ad.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 25 2011 16:46 GMT
#618
Kinda thinking of trying out boots, a pair of dblades and then a BC on kayle.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
August 25 2011 16:46 GMT
#619
On August 26 2011 01:38 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 01:34 snow2.0 wrote:
why do i always get the horrible 1st time test talons on my team and the other team's carry?

Ban talon this week. every game.


Hotshot did that Talon test on stream yesterday, 2500 ranked games and he didn't even know what Talon abilities were and still didn't fully understand the nuances after the 2nd game. Worst part is that Saint was telling him what to do but he wasn't listening.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22575 Posts
August 25 2011 16:48 GMT
#620
Second the crap new UI. the scorebord is actualy to big and makes it take longer to check everything by having to move your eyes a lot more and the end score screen just looks really disorganised compared to the old one.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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