EPThttp://www.cstarleague.com/news/949/csl-lol-tournament
edit: oh nvm just saw the thread for it. whoooooopsies :/
Also, yay for ez Elo badges lol. Jarvan is within reach now!
[Patch 1.0.0.124: Talon] General Discussion - Page 30
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NSANE.hydra
United States644 Posts
http://www.cstarleague.com/news/949/csl-lol-tournament edit: oh nvm just saw the thread for it. whoooooopsies :/ Also, yay for ez Elo badges lol. Jarvan is within reach now! | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On August 25 2011 20:58 phyvo wrote: Jungle Soraka. It works now ezpz, you can even do blue first as long as you spec some flat HP. Everyone can do blue first. The trick is called "help". Blue start definitely seems mandatory on Soraka since her main damage is Starcall. But what's the point? | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
always kill never die huehuehue also talon is fun to play but i feel like no items are really core on him. I swear his scaling is terribad and with low base damage he's really niche. Fun, but niche. by all that i mean that he dont scale with phantom dancer so i am not amused. but again, his w does less damage than his q. But he has really high base mana regen and low costs, so i feel like gb/bruta es way to go brb experimenting with builds | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
6 ELO in solo queue and 2 ELO in ranked 5s... sigh I want that jarvan skin :< | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
Flash on enemy trist, Q-hit no spread + ulti, welcome to my side ghosty. Lee Sin + Leona, y u no rape my armor? Triple kill. Problem? | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
@vlan: Me too, gotta gogogo carry every night. =D | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
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TheBJ
Bulgaria906 Posts
On August 25 2011 22:36 -Zoda- wrote: Saintvicious ganking with Soraka Jungle now. :D HAHAHAHA cait from his team " Never thought i would get zoned by a soraka" | ||
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GranDim
Canada1214 Posts
On August 25 2011 22:36 -Zoda- wrote: Saintvicious ganking with Soraka Jungle now. :D I went up against his pre patch jungle Soraka, he was very easy to counter jungle, not sure if that still apply after the patch. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23462 Posts
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
So I started playing Tristana (who's fun) and Corki (also pretty fun). Here's what I got out of it: - They're both ranged AD carries, from what I can see. AP Corki doesn't seem to do as well. - Both have a nice escape/engage mechanism (jump/valk). - Both have good range, Trist just with AA and Corki with Missiles. - Trist has much better auto damage and range, making pushing/tower killing easier. - Corki has much better burst, but you need to be in range for Gatling Gun and land your Missiles for it to work. Am I about right in these assessments? Which do you think is stronger in team fights? 1v1? | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On August 25 2011 21:16 spinesheath wrote: Everyone can do blue first. The trick is called "help". Blue start definitely seems mandatory on Soraka since her main damage is Starcall. But what's the point? You don't need help to do blue first. The point is that you can support from the jungle. Jungles are support anyways. When a lane needs help you can run in, harass, and heal, or you can easily pass off red to your AD or solo top which admittedly might be more effective than a soraka gank (lol). But really, even if you don't accept *that* point, the other point is that zalz is bored and needs more trolling in his life. On August 25 2011 21:45 Caller wrote: soraka is too broken atm that armor heal is ridic always kill never die huehuehue also talon is fun to play but i feel like no items are really core on him. I swear his scaling is terribad and with low base damage he's really niche. Fun, but niche. by all that i mean that he dont scale with phantom dancer so i am not amused. but again, his w does less damage than his q. But he has really high base mana regen and low costs, so i feel like gb/bruta es way to go brb experimenting with builds I don't understand why people keep on saying Talon's ratios are bad. 1) they only look bad if you're a baddie and don't doublehit your rakes and ult 2) your shunpo increases all your damage by 15% at max level, including bonus damage from AD. 3) his basic attacks deal 10% more damage vs cced targets targets 4) Most of his abilities are AoE Q is 0.5 ratio and resets your auto -> good, its cd also can get really low W is a 1.2 ratio if you hit both blades which is ezpz, oh yeah it's AoE too R is a 1.8 ratio in an AoE E is a 1.15x multiplier to everything. Total is 4.0 AD ratio not counting the extra auto from Q. It's 3.5 vs non-Eed targets. Lee Sin's total is 4.0 Pantheon's is 4.6 for two spears and a HSS. Garen is 5.1 for Q -> full spin but he can't auto while spinning at the same time. Talon has more AoE than all of them and his AoE is generally easier to hit with. That's dang good when you realize that Lee Sin and Panth (maybe Garen) are crazy OP already. Maybe Talon isn't of their caliber (after all spears will always be better than rake for zoning in a solo lane) but to say that his AD ratios are *bad*? As for base damage, his level 16 no item burst is ~1400 if you shunpo->ult->rake->auto->q, which isn't bad at all. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Anyways, if you play Soraka, you might as well play her full on AP with mini heals now. Max'ing W first is possibly the worst build now. Can't believe I resorted to max Q first. Bot lane "X/Support" can no longer play passively. There's just no sustainability after the heal nerfs this patch. | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
5 support too good | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On August 25 2011 23:51 NeoIllusions wrote: Healing comps are dead. Nice going Riot. Anyways, if you play Soraka, you might as well play her full on AP with mini heals now. Max'ing W first is possibly the worst build now. Can't believe I resorted to max Q first. Bot lane "X/Support" can no longer play passively. There's just no sustainability after the heal nerfs this patch. That was pretty much their plan. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Taric still works with some champs. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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