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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 13 2011 13:36 GMT
#4421
guys I'am starting to play janna atm. here is my build, give me some criticism:

runes: arpen reds, mreg/lvl yellows, cdr/lvl blues, gold/10 quints
masteries: 3,6,21 with 3 in crit/lvl
build: core - philo, hog, boots, wards oracle. extensions - wriggles, aegis, zerkers, elixiers of fort and agi. luxuries - starks, cleaver

I think you get the idea. I play sona with a more ap-support stile so far cuz it fits her kit very well. I thought it would be fitting to have a ad- support when my team likes to have things like aegis and starks more than wota and abyssmal. the wriggles+zerkers is the strange part of it but if you consider that it helps to secure dragons, barons, turret kills and gives free wards then it actually makes sense.

thoughts?
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
September 13 2011 13:44 GMT
#4422
Free Gankplank week. Time to try out some Tiamat builds hue. Something like 2 Tiamats and 4 IEdge would be good, right?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
September 13 2011 13:45 GMT
#4423
AD Janna is a complete troll build.

Runes: mres reds, dodge/armor/mp5 yellows, mres per lvl/flat cdr blues, flat ap/mres/gp5 quints

Philo>hog/boots>kindlegem/boots 2 (usually cdr)>kage's>shruelia's>aegis
Oracle's as game requires (I prefer boots 2 before getting it).

Can get some aura item last like starks/wota/abyssal. Always have room for a stack of wards. Sell off gold per 5 toward end of game for more useful items. Morello's is also good, but wasted CDR depending on earlier build.
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 13 2011 14:10 GMT
#4424
On September 13 2011 22:44 Nikon wrote:
Free Gankplank week. Time to try out some Tiamat builds hue. Something like 2 Tiamats and 4 IEdge would be good, right?


Needs 1 Triforce. Just to be safe. Wriggles too. Proc'd q's with tiamats splash the bonus damage too.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 13 2011 14:13 GMT
#4425
On September 13 2011 22:45 Craton wrote:
AD Janna is a complete troll build.

Runes: mres reds, dodge/armor/mp5 yellows, mres per lvl/flat cdr blues, flat ap/mres/gp5 quints

Philo>hog/boots>kindlegem/boots 2 (usually cdr)>kage's>shruelia's>aegis
Oracle's as game requires (I prefer boots 2 before getting it).

Can get some aura item last like starks/wota/abyssal. Always have room for a stack of wards. Sell off gold per 5 toward end of game for more useful items. Morello's is also good, but wasted CDR depending on earlier build.


why.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 13 2011 14:17 GMT
#4426
You should run BF Sword into Infinity Edge into Phantom Dancer into Bloodthirster into Quicksilver Sash on Janna. She's a really good AD carry.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 14:26:44
September 13 2011 14:19 GMT
#4427
On September 13 2011 22:36 clickrush wrote:
guys I'am starting to play janna atm. here is my build, give me some criticism:

runes: arpen reds, mreg/lvl yellows, cdr/lvl blues, gold/10 quints
masteries: 3,6,21 with 3 in crit/lvl
build: core - philo, hog, boots, wards oracle. extensions - wriggles, aegis, zerkers, elixiers of fort and agi. luxuries - starks, cleaver

I think you get the idea. I play sona with a more ap-support stile so far cuz it fits her kit very well. I thought it would be fitting to have a ad- support when my team likes to have things like aegis and starks more than wota and abyssmal. the wriggles+zerkers is the strange part of it but if you consider that it helps to secure dragons, barons, turret kills and gives free wards then it actually makes sense.

thoughts?

marks: MPen
seals: flat armor
glyphs: flat MR
quints: flat armor, flat MR, flat HP, Movespeed depending on the game

FLAT stuff. EARLYGAME. FLAT. Janna doesn't need any runes to do her job lategame.

0/9/21
Wtf is crit/lvl lol, there is a flat crit mastery and a scaling AP mastery.
If you wanna be cheeky and randomly crit every 100 games, go 1/8/21.

W>E>Q, R at 6 and possibly at 11 and 16, if you can actually channel it during/between fights. Otherwise keep it at rank 1.
rank 1 Q somewhere from 1 to 4.

Boots + ward + pot
DRing + Philo
CDR Boots
Kindlegem
Reverie
Aegis, Starks, Defense

And don't get the wrong idea: I don't get Philo for the gold/10. I get it because Reverie is awesome.


On September 13 2011 23:17 Southlight wrote:
You should run BF Sword into Infinity Edge into Phantom Dancer into Bloodthirster into Quicksilver Sash on Janna. She's a really good AD carry.

It was you who raged about Vayne's "low range", right? Janna has 75 range less.
That being said, Janna DOES do somewhat decently as a ranged AD, assuming you actually give her plenty of farm and don't run into a very nuke heavy team. Annie can ruin your AD Janna adventures pretty easily.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 14:29:17
September 13 2011 14:28 GMT
#4428
Janna's attack animation is better.

Wait, are you responding seriously, or are you just going along?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
September 13 2011 14:29 GMT
#4429
Random stats of IP costs:
450 - 9
1350 - 22
3150 - 20
4800 - 4
6300 - 27

More champs cost 6300 than any other amount.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 13 2011 14:33 GMT
#4430
I always thought the amount of IP was directly proportional to the amount of OP the character brought with it.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
September 13 2011 14:38 GMT
#4431
On September 13 2011 23:29 Craton wrote:
Random stats of IP costs:
450 - 9
1350 - 22
3150 - 20
4800 - 4
6300 - 27

More champs cost 6300 than any other amount.


Yeah, I took a break from LoL the week before Brand was released. Last week a friend convinced me to play again. Thought I'd take a look at the new champs... opened the shop window and all I saw was... "6300... 6300... 6300... 6300". With the exception of Rumble and Orianna... and those are 4800. Nice one Riot. Not that I am mad, I understand that they want to earn some money. With those prices more ppl are going to buy champs via RP, I guess. But a few less 6,3k ip Champs would be kind of nice.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 14:49:33
September 13 2011 14:48 GMT
#4432
Personally I don't mind the new champs being expensive so long as they keep reducing costs on older champions. There are 31 champions that cost less than 3150 IP, and 31 champions that cost more. As long as they roughly keep the current 3-2-3 ratio with 3150 IP as the middle point it seems fine to me.

Edit: But no 12600 IP price point, ever.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 13 2011 14:50 GMT
#4433
On September 13 2011 23:28 Southlight wrote:
Janna's attack animation is better.

Wait, are you responding seriously, or are you just going along?

I would actually call it viable under the right circumstances. And assuming your team never falls behind significantly.
Not that you could ever hope to run into one of these circumstances in a solo Q match.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 13 2011 14:52 GMT
#4434
Well I mean most things running IE PD BT QSS LW are viable as AD carries >_>; You can do it with Fiddle too, with his hilarious CC.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 13 2011 14:53 GMT
#4435
imagine you spend 3 months designing a champ and then marketing makes it 450 ip
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
September 13 2011 14:54 GMT
#4436
On September 13 2011 23:53 LaNague wrote:
imagine you spend 3 months designing a champ and then marketing makes it 450 ip


And everyone buys it and you are happy. =)
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
September 13 2011 14:56 GMT
#4437
On September 13 2011 23:10 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 22:44 Nikon wrote:
Free Gankplank week. Time to try out some Tiamat builds hue. Something like 2 Tiamats and 4 IEdge would be good, right?


Needs 1 Triforce. Just to be safe. Wriggles too. Proc'd q's with tiamats splash the bonus damage too.


Hmm, didn't think about that. If you use crit chance reds, you should still be able to maintain 100% crit chance with a triforce. Sounds good to me.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 13 2011 15:00 GMT
#4438
They get paid hourly so the people who actually design them really don't care.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 13 2011 15:10 GMT
#4439
I'm pretty shure a large percentage of RP sales are people that buy RP to get a new champ instantly because they can't bother waiting till they grind up like 6k IP. No one is going to buy RP for a 1350 champ and a lot less people for a 3150 champ so I kind of can understand why Riot is mostly releasing 6300s/4800s. I mean, when they keep reducing old champs I don't really care.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
September 13 2011 15:23 GMT
#4440
It should be a 30$ flat payment for 100% of the nonaesthetic content.

Right now it is a 20$/month korean cash shop mmorpg
or more if you didnt start when LoL was first released.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
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