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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 11 2011 12:35 GMT
#461
When I played vs teemo as Nasus, the blind would stop my hitting my Q but it wouldn't use it up, that is, I have to wait 2 seconds before my Q hits and my hits just woosh on him but my Q will work as soon as blind is gone. I assume the way it works is that if you get dodged you next hit will be siphon strike so it's still not terrible against Nasus.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
August 11 2011 12:40 GMT
#462
Nope, Blind and dodge are different mechanics. Attack enhancers cannot be dodged, things like nasus Q, tf PaC, poppy Q.

Akali needs something like that for her q nothing is more annoying than getting a killing mark proc dodged.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
August 11 2011 12:44 GMT
#463
sigh
i wish they'd make a new support or caster
or nerf soraka
i guess there are lots of casters for me to pick from but i didn't really enjoy playing orianna and brand is too expensive, not fun enough to be worth the price
:)
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
August 11 2011 12:47 GMT
#464
On August 11 2011 21:13 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 16:53 Owned Noob wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:50 zalz wrote:
Would it not be somewhat of a luckfest? The dodge rate would end up deciding wether Jax stands a chance or not.

If Jax doesn't score any dodges i don't see a way that he can beat Nasus.

except for the fact you cant dodge nasus q

I find this very hard to believe, as when I was 1v1ing a Jax lategame with +580 Q damage, it sometimes still seemed to deal no dmg, and it's pretty difficult to miss as when it did deal dmg it dealt 1/3 of Jax's health.


Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 19:58 L wrote:
On August 11 2011 04:01 Cixah wrote:
Uhhh... what? The only scorpion champ in HoN is a skin, and his ult is an aoe nuke....

Hence why I'm talking about the hero with the same ult, and not the appearance of either hero.

HoN copied the ulti from batrider anyway, so if anything it's a homage to Batrider, not Rampage. Old Rampage design was much better and more fun, anyway.

Have you looked at Skarner's kit compared to the new rampage? Its basically the exact same thing with a few disabling skills traded for long term damage and sustain, which is pretty much what most hero archetypes have as Dota->Hon changes.

Comparing batrider to any hero without a firefly equivalent is a joke. The skill defines the hero.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 13:02:55
August 11 2011 12:59 GMT
#465
On August 11 2011 21:47 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 21:13 Shikyo wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:53 Owned Noob wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:50 zalz wrote:
Would it not be somewhat of a luckfest? The dodge rate would end up deciding wether Jax stands a chance or not.

If Jax doesn't score any dodges i don't see a way that he can beat Nasus.

except for the fact you cant dodge nasus q

I find this very hard to believe, as when I was 1v1ing a Jax lategame with +580 Q damage, it sometimes still seemed to deal no dmg, and it's pretty difficult to miss as when it did deal dmg it dealt 1/3 of Jax's health.


On August 11 2011 19:58 L wrote:
On August 11 2011 04:01 Cixah wrote:
Uhhh... what? The only scorpion champ in HoN is a skin, and his ult is an aoe nuke....

Hence why I'm talking about the hero with the same ult, and not the appearance of either hero.

HoN copied the ulti from batrider anyway, so if anything it's a homage to Batrider, not Rampage. Old Rampage design was much better and more fun, anyway.

Have you looked at Skarner's kit compared to the new rampage? Its basically the exact same thing with a few disabling skills traded for long term damage and sustain, which is pretty much what most hero archetypes have as Dota->Hon changes.

Comparing batrider to any hero without a firefly equivalent is a joke. The skill defines the hero.

"Snags a target with a constricting lasso, allowing the Batrider to drag them behind him as he moves. Does not drag units onto impassable terrain. Teleporting or blinking will break the lasso."



"Binds the target to Rampage for 2.5 / 3 / 3.5 seconds and the target will be dragged behind him as he moves.

The dragged target will take 25 / 35 / 45% of the distance they are dragged in Physical Damage.

If Rampage and the target he is dragging get seperated by more than 500 units the chains are broken. "




I'm not sure what effect Firefly has on his ulti as he can't drag them into the air.

I guess Rampages deals damage so Skarner's is more of a Rampage copy, but honestly that's just a copy of Batrider's so.



And about the kit, Ramage has a long-distance advance skill with an inbuilt gapcloser, gains dmg from movespeed which also is an AoE slow, and a bash. I don't think they're that similiar, he's a lot more movespeed-based and that's a pretty far-fetched comparison. Skarner is clearly more teamfighty whereas Rampage is 1v1 ganker.

On August 11 2011 21:40 GranDim wrote:
Nope, Blind and dodge are different mechanics. Attack enhancers cannot be dodged, things like nasus Q, tf PaC, poppy Q.

Akali needs something like that for her q nothing is more annoying than getting a killing mark proc dodged.

And mordekaiZer -.-
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
August 11 2011 13:11 GMT
#466
RAMAGE
cool beans
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
August 11 2011 13:35 GMT
#467
should put tf2 medic into lol imo

q-heals target for x health per second, as long as you stay within 300 range. Any extra healing goes to a shield that drains over time LIKE MORDEKAISER HUEHUEHUE also it increases charge meter
w-es quickfix, boosts movement speed of you and ally being healed to 500, speed es #1
e-gives your melee attack to charge your charge meter, ubersaw #1 saw
r-es kritzkrieg, only use when fully charge, give 100% crit to target being healed for 5 second, kk
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 11 2011 14:42 GMT
#468
Haha dyrus hating on yiruru in his sivir guide.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
August 11 2011 15:11 GMT
#469
On August 11 2011 23:42 0123456789 wrote:
Haha dyrus hating on yiruru in his sivir guide.

Wasn't this just referring to this though?
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 11 2011 15:36 GMT
#470
Rape shaco's boxes so now he can't jungle at all
wtf
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 11 2011 15:45 GMT
#471
On August 11 2011 23:42 0123456789 wrote:
Haha dyrus hating on yiruru in his sivir guide.

dyrus also advocates no last whisper.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
August 11 2011 16:29 GMT
#472
man, leveling up to 20 is soooo mindnumbing. I finally wanna go buy some champs instead of saving my IP for my runes. Meh.

Sorry for the OT. <3 to all of you.
currently rooting for myself.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17241 Posts
August 11 2011 17:05 GMT
#473
On August 12 2011 00:36 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Rape shaco's boxes so now he can't jungle at all
wtf

They said long ago they might remove his ability to jungle to make him less gimmicky + able to lane
twitch.tv/cratonz
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 11 2011 17:08 GMT
#474
Yea, I remember that. But atm he has no role at all.


Must practice lane shaco.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 11 2011 17:16 GMT
#475
On August 12 2011 02:08 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Yea, I remember that. But atm he has no role at all.


Must practice lane shaco.

Remember when I said solotop shaco is okay and everyone laughed at me? !

The problem with that though is that even though you're ungankable and help your jungler gank easily, he has no lanesustain and his lategame is so poop he can't carry properly -.- Maybe you should rush Gunblade?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 11 2011 17:27 GMT
#476
On August 12 2011 02:16 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 02:08 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Yea, I remember that. But atm he has no role at all.


Must practice lane shaco.

Remember when I said solotop shaco is okay and everyone laughed at me? !

The problem with that though is that even though you're ungankable and help your jungler gank easily, he has no lanesustain and his lategame is so poop he can't carry properly -.- Maybe you should rush Gunblade?


Shaco late game is always shit.

I thought that was the whole reason you just dedicated all your time to split pushing and hoping the enemy team sends a strong guy to fight you off, thus balancing the game back to 4v4 as you and whatever unlucky bastard end up dancing on the side lanes.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 11 2011 17:34 GMT
#477
Just in case anyone was thinking of playing Karma this patch, do so with this in mind: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1081112

It really sucks, I was raging about it on stream yesterday cause it's really detrimental to her play.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 11 2011 17:43 GMT
#478
yeah, i really hate that karma bug, was playing her earlier, and was about to kill kat in lane, i go mantra, flash selfcast e........wtf no dmg??????

then remember bug. fml
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
August 11 2011 17:54 GMT
#479
On August 12 2011 02:34 Mogwai wrote:
Just in case anyone was thinking of playing Karma this patch, do so with this in mind: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1081112

It really sucks, I was raging about it on stream yesterday cause it's really detrimental to her play.


It's okay smash, we all felt your rage deep in our hearts <3
hi
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 11 2011 17:56 GMT
#480
On August 11 2011 21:35 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 21:29 Niton wrote:
On August 11 2011 21:13 Shikyo wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:53 Owned Noob wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:50 zalz wrote:
Would it not be somewhat of a luckfest? The dodge rate would end up deciding wether Jax stands a chance or not.

If Jax doesn't score any dodges i don't see a way that he can beat Nasus.

except for the fact you cant dodge nasus q

I find this very hard to believe, as when I was 1v1ing a Jax lategame with +580 Q damage, it sometimes still seemed to deal no dmg, and it's pretty difficult to miss as when it did deal dmg it dealt 1/3 of Jax's health.


v1.0.0.99 - 2010-08-24

Siphoning Strike now cannot be dodged



That's really interesting! I wonder why it dealt 0 dmg when Jax had his ulti activated. Or maybe the ulti bugs out so that it can be dodged while Jax's ulti is active? o.O As I'm pretty sure I don't just dream / imagine this

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