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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 02:34:52
August 02 2011 02:33 GMT
#761
On August 02 2011 10:37 Sponkz wrote:
Didn't he, along with kennen, become less viable because of the zhonyas ring split?

No, he became less viable after his rework because the drastic increase in turret CD plus moving of double turret to rank 3 severely made his laning significantly worse. The recent buff helped that, because while you still can't get total creep control until level 6, at least the turrets don't cut as deep into your mana.
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
August 02 2011 02:49 GMT
#762
On August 02 2011 06:46 Shikyo wrote:
http://www.justin.tv/shayuki

So in my team I got a cleanse tryndamere solo top, Jax jungle, bottom lane is morgana/ashe and morgana didn't pick cv because "i said im not support" although he's last pick, I'm mid as Akali.

<_< I tend to get this kinda games alot !

morgana is shitty played as support
:)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 02 2011 02:54 GMT
#763
[image loading]

Lee sin too good. Also build too good( At the end 240 dmg, 6420 hp and 150/170 resistances
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
August 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#764
On August 02 2011 11:54 Shikyo wrote:
[image]

Lee sin too good. Also build too good( At the end 240 dmg, 6420 hp and 150/170 resistances


What happened to MF?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 02 2011 03:16 GMT
#765
They were so bad their name got removed obviously ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 02 2011 03:18 GMT
#766
On August 02 2011 12:11 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 11:54 Shikyo wrote:
[image]

Lee sin too good. Also build too good( At the end 240 dmg, 6420 hp and 150/170 resistances


What happened to MF?

Russian name, its not visible
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
August 02 2011 03:35 GMT
#767
[image loading] is the original picture i believe
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 02 2011 04:24 GMT
#768
On August 02 2011 12:35 Caller wrote:
[image loading] is the original picture i believe

O___O Nice spot. We cannot see the full image so there is the possibility of censorship!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 05:23:16
August 02 2011 05:08 GMT
#769
Fiddlesticks is just so ridiculous at my elo -.-
no one bans him; most dont play him optimally. but holy hell does he stomp. most teams at 1400-1500 dont ward drag early so getting lvl 5 dragon is easy. add to that a tendency to have no map awareness. trolololo

EDIT: Stolen from DotA2 tourney thread
On August 02 2011 12:55 GazeRocker wrote:
[image loading]

Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 02 2011 05:58 GMT
#770
How did Kayle go from having the best attack animation in the game to one of, if not, the worst?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 02 2011 06:00 GMT
#771
On August 02 2011 14:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
How did Kayle go from having the best attack animation in the game to one of, if not, the worst?


new and improved animations!
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
August 02 2011 06:08 GMT
#772
Are games fucked up for anyone else? I was in a ranked game and froze up in the middle of a team fight like I lagged out. After a minute or so of this, I alt-f4'd out. When I logged back in I had no game to reconnect to (the standalone tool didn't work either).

After like 20 mins, I tried queuing for another game. In the ban phase, we got through 2 bans, then it froze for like 20 seconds and then put us in picks. At this point someone who had never connected DC'd (or dodged, I'm not 100% sure) and I left queue.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 02 2011 06:27 GMT
#773
Short question about Dans Heimer, I wanna play around with him while he's free.

Masteries? 9 0 21 or 0 9 21?
Runes? Standard full AP caster page or something else?
Skill Order? I guess QWWE, W > Q > E. Am I wrong?

Items? Dring -> Deathcap or RoA builds?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 07:25:21
August 02 2011 06:55 GMT
#774
On August 02 2011 15:27 r.Evo wrote:
Short question about Dans Heimer, I wanna play around with him while he's free.

Masteries? 9 0 21 or 0 9 21?
Runes? Standard full AP caster page or something else?
Skill Order? I guess QWWE, W > Q > E. Am I wrong?

Items? Dring -> Deathcap or RoA builds?

He has a guide on Solomid, http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=2602

The gist of it:

Masteries -- 9/0/21. Heimer is a decent laner with natural hp5 from his passive. He doesn't need the defensive masteries.

Runes -- Mpen or AP/lvl reds (I've seen Dan use both, the fact that turrets don't benefit from your Mpen means there's an argument for using AP on reds rather than MPen), AP/lvl yellows/blues, AP quints.

Skill order -- WQWQWQRWWE, W>Q>R>E. W is your big poke skill so you max it first, getting double turret with rank 3 Q is superior to getting R or E in lane. You get Q level 1 only if it's someone you don't think you can beat with W/autoattack harass and need to get fast creep control against (Dan did this way back vs pre-nerf Malphite), and you get E earlier only if you need to deal with strong gankers.

Items -- DRings->DCap. Catalyst isn't a strong item to get on Heimer for laning, so likewise you don't really want Rod (natural hp5 so the healing isn't necessary, plus he gets a lot of mileage from the early AP).
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WhiteNights
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States252 Posts
August 02 2011 07:08 GMT
#775
I've utterly lost my will to grind ranked games now that DotA 2 is coming out.

Oh well, I was shit at this game anyway.
May your sky be always clear, may your smile be always bright, and may you be forever blessed for that moment of happiness which you gave to another lonely and grateful heart!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 02 2011 07:14 GMT
#776
I lost my will to play Ranked games when I heard that Season 2 would be out soon, but it seems like it's just another Magma Chamber or in game replays. League and DotA play differently enough that they can't really replace each other.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 02 2011 08:11 GMT
#777
On August 02 2011 15:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 15:27 r.Evo wrote:
Short question about Dans Heimer, I wanna play around with him while he's free.

Masteries? 9 0 21 or 0 9 21?
Runes? Standard full AP caster page or something else?
Skill Order? I guess QWWE, W > Q > E. Am I wrong?

Items? Dring -> Deathcap or RoA builds?

He has a guide on Solomid, http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=2602

The gist of it:

Masteries -- 9/0/21. Heimer is a decent laner with natural hp5 from his passive. He doesn't need the defensive masteries.

Runes -- Mpen or AP/lvl reds (I've seen Dan use both, the fact that turrets don't benefit from your Mpen means there's an argument for using AP on reds rather than MPen), AP/lvl yellows/blues, AP quints.

Skill order -- WQWQWQRWWE, W>Q>R>E. W is your big poke skill so you max it first, getting double turret with rank 3 Q is superior to getting R or E in lane. You get Q level 1 only if it's someone you don't think you can beat with W/autoattack harass and need to get fast creep control against (Dan did this way back vs pre-nerf Malphite), and you get E earlier only if you need to deal with strong gankers.

Items -- DRings->DCap. Catalyst isn't a strong item to get on Heimer for laning, so likewise you don't really want Rod (natural hp5 so the healing isn't necessary, plus he gets a lot of mileage from the early AP).


Oh, didn't know about the guide. Imanewb, cheers for summarizing it anyway. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
August 02 2011 10:00 GMT
#778
On August 02 2011 15:08 arnath wrote:
Are games fucked up for anyone else? I was in a ranked game and froze up in the middle of a team fight like I lagged out. After a minute or so of this, I alt-f4'd out. When I logged back in I had no game to reconnect to (the standalone tool didn't work either).

After like 20 mins, I tried queuing for another game. In the ban phase, we got through 2 bans, then it froze for like 20 seconds and then put us in picks. At this point someone who had never connected DC'd (or dodged, I'm not 100% sure) and I left queue.

So, it was working as normal?
twitch.tv/cratonz
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 10:09:09
August 02 2011 10:07 GMT
#779
Sometimes I really feel LoL attracts low IQ people..

Enemy jungle Lee after I answered his "omg report mid" with "and omg report lee!!!!11":

"LOL IRELIA WITS END WARMOGS NINJA TABI ROFL NO TRIFORCE OMG NEWB."
"Uh, Triforce is for midgame burst, didn't need that."
"LOL TRIFORCE IS CORE ALWAYS LOL NEWB."
"Okay."

Go like 10-3-10, carry game, np.

Should have played Cho. With the same items. :/


Sidenote: I fucking love the synergy between Wits End / Ninja Tabi / Eleisas when the enemy solo top does some kind of hybrid damage (ww/udyr e.g.) - Top or flop? All dirt cheap and just pure sex.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
August 02 2011 10:23 GMT
#780
On August 02 2011 09:06 Shiv. wrote:
This week will kill me. My game freezes whenever Ryze uses Q and shuts down itself a couple of seconds later. FML.

use the repair function from launcher, my game used to crash everytime kass or trundle appeared on the minimap, repair fixed this
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