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On February 01 2011 23:38 phyvo wrote:
I think Doran's shield might still be useful but the other items were hardly changed and I think +1 mana/5 or damage hardly makes up for losing 200 health.
I think the idea is that they wanted to retain cost-effectiveness, so that in the case of boots or rejuv bead starts, you can still DRing/DBlade stack on champs that did so before.
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On February 02 2011 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Wai they nerf my hat ;;
Who didn't see that coming though?
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On February 01 2011 21:33 Phrost wrote:
Honestly all they need to do to make early game less passive is drop the cost of long sword so you can get 2 potions with it imo
Imo reduce tower damage so earlier tower dives can happen.
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On February 02 2011 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Wai they nerf my hat ;;
It's still 2 NLRs and a Blasting Wand for the cost of 2 NLRs and an Amp Tome, without considering the passive applied to outside AP.
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Cassiopeia
* Twin Fang range increased to 700 from 675
She's going to crack one day and become OP with all the continuous buffs.
Soraka
* Astral Blessing
o Base heal changed to 60/120/180/240/300 from 80/130/180/230/280
o Ability power ratio reduced to 0.9 from 1
o Buff duration reduced to 4 from 9
o Armor buff increased to 20/35/50/65/80 from 15/20/25/30/35
Buff to soraka. Not a nerf, a buff. 80+ armor messes with timings a lot. For a tank to have +80 armor at a stage when soraka is lvl 9 is huge. It makes them immune to any physical dmg especially if they've gotten something like sunfires, and lets them tank tons of dmg. Screw Magic damage, because just one sunfires lets you tank a lot of magic damage hits before ap hits higher scales. So now, you have an invincible tank with soraka just wrecking 1v2/3/4 and shutting them out in fights. Even worse, if they've gotten faster scaling with kills. Yes, even 4 seconds of that shit is huge. Etc, etc, tanks just got a free armor item in a spell. This is bigger than you think around the mid game stage before late game.
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omfg, soraka = counter to urgot,
my precious armor reduction wont mean shit when my target gets a free +80 armor for most of the duration of my grenades T.T
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On February 01 2011 18:16 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 16:36 gtrsrs wrote:
yay just the buffs that i wanted on renekton, i bet he's actually playable now
also lmfao at the completely unwarranted and unnecessary soraka nerfs. is she really that powerful at low levels that she garnered a nerf when she's clearly the worst champion in the game (after nunu mb)??
galio's skillshot was already pretty easy to hit anywhere that wasn't the laning phase, now he's going to be a perma-lock-you-down-while-you're-trying-to-run chaser
i really like the rammus nerf but it's not enough imo. but a step in the right direction
^same with vlad
i'm banning teemo from now on i don't even want to deal with that shit in lane
:bowdown: rally buff, have someone take rally and farm all day, get to 18 when everyone else is 11, then rally during battle IT'S LIKE BARON BUFF
Q_Q akali no hurt towers no more
I know this is offtopic but Nunu worst champ? Are you trolling bro?
i just h8 nunu because i feel like he brings nothing to a team past like 25 minutes
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On February 02 2011 02:34 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 18:16 HazMat wrote:On February 01 2011 16:36 gtrsrs wrote:
yay just the buffs that i wanted on renekton, i bet he's actually playable now
also lmfao at the completely unwarranted and unnecessary soraka nerfs. is she really that powerful at low levels that she garnered a nerf when she's clearly the worst champion in the game (after nunu mb)??
galio's skillshot was already pretty easy to hit anywhere that wasn't the laning phase, now he's going to be a perma-lock-you-down-while-you're-trying-to-run chaser
i really like the rammus nerf but it's not enough imo. but a step in the right direction
^same with vlad
i'm banning teemo from now on i don't even want to deal with that shit in lane
:bowdown: rally buff, have someone take rally and farm all day, get to 18 when everyone else is 11, then rally during battle IT'S LIKE BARON BUFF
Q_Q akali no hurt towers no more
I know this is offtopic but Nunu worst champ? Are you trolling bro? i just h8 nunu because i feel like he brings nothing to a team past like 25 minutes
wat....
nunu has incredible ap ratios (aka, you can only have deathcap and do amazing damage for the whole fucking game) and an amazing asp steroid that he can offer to augment his dps. When i'm playing with a nunu that i know, i skip zeal and go lw before pdancer just because i know i have that massive aspeed buff. And thats not even to mention his stupid good chasing power and his innate ability (his ult) to protect his ranged dps (if you ult right next to your squishy, who the fuck is going to go for them, regardless of how much damage you do)
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So what are peoples' thoughts on Wriggles vs. Doran stacking after the patch?
Cost-effectiveness numbers have always been close, but slightly in favor of Doran's, plus you were always gonna start with a Doran's anyway. But with Cloth+5pot possibly being a better start now, does that 300g sunk cost push things in favor of getting Wriggles over Doran stacking?
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my honest opinion is that 75% of the characters are going to open d-shield or boots after this patch.
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my honest opinion is that 100% of the characters caller plays (that have mana) are going to open rejuv + faerie charm after this patch.
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On February 02 2011 02:40 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 02:34 gtrsrs wrote:On February 01 2011 18:16 HazMat wrote:On February 01 2011 16:36 gtrsrs wrote:
yay just the buffs that i wanted on renekton, i bet he's actually playable now
also lmfao at the completely unwarranted and unnecessary soraka nerfs. is she really that powerful at low levels that she garnered a nerf when she's clearly the worst champion in the game (after nunu mb)??
galio's skillshot was already pretty easy to hit anywhere that wasn't the laning phase, now he's going to be a perma-lock-you-down-while-you're-trying-to-run chaser
i really like the rammus nerf but it's not enough imo. but a step in the right direction
^same with vlad
i'm banning teemo from now on i don't even want to deal with that shit in lane
:bowdown: rally buff, have someone take rally and farm all day, get to 18 when everyone else is 11, then rally during battle IT'S LIKE BARON BUFF
Q_Q akali no hurt towers no more
I know this is offtopic but Nunu worst champ? Are you trolling bro? i just h8 nunu because i feel like he brings nothing to a team past like 25 minutes wat.... nunu has incredible ap ratios (aka, you can only have deathcap and do amazing damage for the whole fucking game) and an amazing asp steroid that he can offer to augment his dps. When i'm playing with a nunu that i know, i skip zeal and go lw before pdancer just because i know i have that massive aspeed buff. And thats not even to mention his stupid good chasing power and his innate ability (his ult) to protect his ranged dps (if you ult right next to your squishy, who the fuck is going to go for them, regardless of how much damage you do)
nunu shouldn't get enough farm to get a deathcap + any survivability so either he's a glass cannon support hero with a pretty good steroid that actually looks less good when you see that a lot of ranged carries have their own AS steroid, or he's a tanky champ that does no damage that has a pretty good steroid that looks less good when you see that a lot of ranged carries have their own AS steroid
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On February 02 2011 03:02 Mogwai wrote:
my honest opinion is that 75% of the characters are going to open d-shield or boots after this patch.
i agree 100%
i think doran's shield gives you soooo much of "what you need" in lane that in any matchup of doran's shield v any other opening, d-shield champ is going to be able to boss around the other one so hard
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I've never used mp5 runes, so it's like all my champions just got buffed! Also, I haven't seen that many kat players, but she seemed really powerful after her last buff. She's more likely to be the secret OP than cassiopeia
I love the cloth+5pot on melee champs. the 300g isn't sunk unless you plan on selling it again (for some reason). Ranged champ openings got a little more complicated, but I'm thinking boots+3pots is gonna be an ideal mix of survivability/harass
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Its a shame you won't see snowballed Kats with instagib DL anymore, ill miss the "Death Lotus deal 60 (+120 AD +180 AP) damage per blade"
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On February 02 2011 03:02 Mogwai wrote:
my honest opinion is that 75% of the characters are going to open d-shield or boots after this patch.
+1
Excluding champs with decent heals of course.
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Holy guacamole Renekton buffs. I only played him once but I'll play him some more now since he's gonna be so gud. And yeah Soraka gives so much armour now lol. And passive magic resist. Really interested to see what the standard openings evolve into over the next week.
And morde's got like 3 slight buffs the last patchs I think he'll be pretty good.
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On February 02 2011 04:46 Chrispy wrote:
Holy guacamole Renekton buffs. I only played him once but I'll play him some more now since he's gonna be so gud. And yeah Soraka gives so much armour now lol. And passive magic resist. Really interested to see what the standard openings evolve into over the next week.
And morde's got like 3 slight buffs the last patchs I think he'll be pretty good.
teemo massive buff is the #1 news this patch IMO.
the captain is back on duty.
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Teemo buffs make me angry. Did I mention I hate teemo?
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