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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 19 2011 02:17 GMT
#17661
On June 19 2011 11:01 Boundless wrote:
HazMat: So lets say the builds are 100% terrible, which I don't believe for a minute. It would be much better off on the part of people on this forum to say "well, that's not good because of XYZ" rather than what people are currently responding with, which is mostly "lol you suck get out". I remember browsing the BW strategy section before the release of Sc2 and there were many, many posts to this effect. What makes the LoL section an exception to this?

The TL LoL community is small. All posters know each other, pretty much. When a new poster comes up proposing seemingly terrible builds, while claiming to be a 2k ELO player but without backing it up with an actual LoL profile we can check, it smells of trollbait.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 02:22:32
June 19 2011 02:18 GMT
#17662
Lol Singed with tears is just... just...

No. I'd rather buy 3 sapphire crystals.

But wait, I read some philosophical post on these forums yesterday that 100% applied to LoL.

"A good idea can exist in silence for a long time and it's not until it proves successful that people take notice."

Maybe... just maybe... tears on everyone. NEW META!?!?

Also we gettin' trolled.

Retvrn to Forvms
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 02:50:16
June 19 2011 02:18 GMT
#17663
On June 19 2011 11:10 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 11:07 HazMat wrote:
On June 19 2011 11:01 Boundless wrote:
Clearly I don't expect people to come along and say "holy crap this guy has the whole game figured out, please add me lets play!" but I would expect much more than what's been shown so far.


The guy above me (0123456789) seems like he's attempting to incite trolling.

edit

HazMat: So lets say the builds are 100% terrible, which I don't believe for a minute. It would be much better off on the part of people on this forum to say "well, that's not good because of XYZ" rather than what people are currently responding with, which is mostly "lol you suck get out". I remember browsing the BW strategy section before the release of Sc2 and there were many, many posts to this effect. What makes the LoL section an exception to this?

What is your id, or were you lying when you said you were 2k?


People don't like tears singed because you can't charge up the tears to full. People don't like rageblade Irelia because it leaves you squishy and a weaker laning phase.

I can see how people could make the point about not charging the tear, but I can manage to charge it fully if I build it first after boots and the game goes over 35 minutes... It's 250 procs maximum to charge it up fully, which isn't really that hard to do in an extended game, especially if you spam non stop, which is possible due to the mp5 from the item....

Excuse me for not understanding, but I don't see how rageblade irelia has a weaker laning phase than an irelia that goes straight for trinity force. The extra damage output and attack speed from rageblade seems viable to me since I tend to build irelia as a hybrid, and take more defensive masteries to compensate...

The TL LoL community is small. All posters know each other, pretty much. When a new poster comes up proposing seemingly terrible builds, while claiming to be a 2k ELO player but without backing it up with an actual LoL profile we can check, it smells of trollbait.]

OK, fair enough. I will refrain from posting builds until I feel I'm more experienced as a player.
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 19 2011 02:21 GMT
#17664
Please post your ID. You really dont even deserve to be getting honest responses after making a claim like that while posting troll builds and continuing to refuse to back it up.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 19 2011 02:21 GMT
#17665
On June 19 2011 11:18 Boundless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 11:10 0123456789 wrote:
On June 19 2011 11:07 HazMat wrote:
On June 19 2011 11:01 Boundless wrote:
Clearly I don't expect people to come along and say "holy crap this guy has the whole game figured out, please add me lets play!" but I would expect much more than what's been shown so far.


The guy above me (0123456789) seems like he's attempting to incite trolling.

edit

HazMat: So lets say the builds are 100% terrible, which I don't believe for a minute. It would be much better off on the part of people on this forum to say "well, that's not good because of XYZ" rather than what people are currently responding with, which is mostly "lol you suck get out". I remember browsing the BW strategy section before the release of Sc2 and there were many, many posts to this effect. What makes the LoL section an exception to this?

What is your id, or were you lying when you said you were 2k?


People don't like tears singed because you can't charge up the tears to full. People don't like rageblade Irelia because it leaves you squishy and a weaker laning phase.

I can see how people could make the point about not charging the tear, but I can manage to charge it fully if I build it first after boots and the game goes over 35 minutes... It's 250 procs maximum to charge it up fully, which isn't really that hard to do in an extended game, especially if you spam non stop, which is possible due to the mp5 from the item....

Excuse me for not understanding, but I don't see how rageblade irelia has a weaker laning phase than an irelia that goes straight for trinity force. The extra damage output and attack speed from rageblade seems viable to me since I tend to build irelia as a hybrid, and take more defensive masteries to compensate...

Did you completely ignore my post. Hybrid builds do not work. And please, stop talking about tear on Singed man.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 19 2011 02:22 GMT
#17666
Why would you build her hybrid when you can just buy trinity and build tanky? You only need trinity to do good damage with Irelia and you can just build straight tank afterwards.

I don't play Singed.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
June 19 2011 02:25 GMT
#17667
On June 19 2011 11:18 Boundless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 11:10 0123456789 wrote:
On June 19 2011 11:07 HazMat wrote:
On June 19 2011 11:01 Boundless wrote:
Clearly I don't expect people to come along and say "holy crap this guy has the whole game figured out, please add me lets play!" but I would expect much more than what's been shown so far.


The guy above me (0123456789) seems like he's attempting to incite trolling.

edit

HazMat: So lets say the builds are 100% terrible, which I don't believe for a minute. It would be much better off on the part of people on this forum to say "well, that's not good because of XYZ" rather than what people are currently responding with, which is mostly "lol you suck get out". I remember browsing the BW strategy section before the release of Sc2 and there were many, many posts to this effect. What makes the LoL section an exception to this?

What is your id, or were you lying when you said you were 2k?


People don't like tears singed because you can't charge up the tears to full. People don't like rageblade Irelia because it leaves you squishy and a weaker laning phase.

I can see how people could make the point about not charging the tear, but I can manage to charge it fully if I build it first after boots and the game goes over 35 minutes... It's 250 procs maximum to charge it up fully, which isn't really that hard to do in an extended game, especially if you spam non stop, which is possible due to the mp5 from the item....

Excuse me for not understanding, but I don't see how rageblade irelia has a weaker laning phase than an irelia that goes straight for trinity force. The extra damage output and attack speed from rageblade seems viable to me since I tend to build irelia as a hybrid, and take more defensive masteries to compensate...


Despite the fact that you dodge the ID question and other questions, there is no way you can survive in any lane with just tears in the beginning as singed, no matter what, and irelia getting blasting wand or pickaxe makes you really vulnerable in lane and you have 2 items that aren't really cheap or help much in lane, while trinity force you get sheen which gives you more dmg output than both blasting wand or pickaxe. In any lane where you're not superior in matchup, this won't do.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
June 19 2011 02:31 GMT
#17668
On June 19 2011 11:18 Boundless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 11:10 0123456789 wrote:
On June 19 2011 11:07 HazMat wrote:
On June 19 2011 11:01 Boundless wrote:
Clearly I don't expect people to come along and say "holy crap this guy has the whole game figured out, please add me lets play!" but I would expect much more than what's been shown so far.


The guy above me (0123456789) seems like he's attempting to incite trolling.

edit

HazMat: So lets say the builds are 100% terrible, which I don't believe for a minute. It would be much better off on the part of people on this forum to say "well, that's not good because of XYZ" rather than what people are currently responding with, which is mostly "lol you suck get out". I remember browsing the BW strategy section before the release of Sc2 and there were many, many posts to this effect. What makes the LoL section an exception to this?

What is your id, or were you lying when you said you were 2k?


People don't like tears singed because you can't charge up the tears to full. People don't like rageblade Irelia because it leaves you squishy and a weaker laning phase.

I can see how people could make the point about not charging the tear, but I can manage to charge it fully if I build it first after boots and the game goes over 35 minutes... It's 250 procs maximum to charge it up fully, which isn't really that hard to do in an extended game, especially if you spam non stop, which is possible due to the mp5 from the item....

Excuse me for not understanding, but I don't see how rageblade irelia has a weaker laning phase than an irelia that goes straight for trinity force. The extra damage output and attack speed from rageblade seems viable to me since I tend to build irelia as a hybrid, and take more defensive masteries to compensate...


What server do you play on, and what is your summoner name? There is no 2000 elo player I can think of that would suggest builds as bad as yours.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 02:32 GMT
#17669
guys maybe Boundless thinks that k = 100, so he's 2k = 200 elo, where i'm sure tear singed would wreck

no but in all seriousness, A Purple Cow is right - giant's belt not only builds into items that are GREAT on singed (funfire, rylai's) but it's also more cost effective. singed has no need for that much mana beyond catalyst either. it's not like poison is mana intensive.

rageblade on irelia is just silly. where is the AP going? the AP ratios on E and R are bad and R does phys damage now anyways. if you need AS build a true AS item or better yet just get your AS from zeal in the triforce.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 02:35:24
June 19 2011 02:34 GMT
#17670
Boundless, part of the reason I'm skeptical of your sincerity is because we've brought up how tear is mathematically impractical(even fully charged!) and you seem to ignore it completely.

Also, stop dodging the ID question. You've been asked multiple times. Prove your identity, admit the truth, or stop posting.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
June 19 2011 02:34 GMT
#17671
On June 19 2011 11:18 Boundless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 11:10 0123456789 wrote:
On June 19 2011 11:07 HazMat wrote:
On June 19 2011 11:01 Boundless wrote:
Clearly I don't expect people to come along and say "holy crap this guy has the whole game figured out, please add me lets play!" but I would expect much more than what's been shown so far.


The guy above me (0123456789) seems like he's attempting to incite trolling.

edit

HazMat: So lets say the builds are 100% terrible, which I don't believe for a minute. It would be much better off on the part of people on this forum to say "well, that's not good because of XYZ" rather than what people are currently responding with, which is mostly "lol you suck get out". I remember browsing the BW strategy section before the release of Sc2 and there were many, many posts to this effect. What makes the LoL section an exception to this?

What is your id, or were you lying when you said you were 2k?


People don't like tears singed because you can't charge up the tears to full. People don't like rageblade Irelia because it leaves you squishy and a weaker laning phase.

I can see how people could make the point about not charging the tear, but I can manage to charge it fully if I build it first after boots and the game goes over 35 minutes... It's 250 procs maximum to charge it up fully, which isn't really that hard to do in an extended game, especially if you spam non stop, which is possible due to the mp5 from the item....

Excuse me for not understanding, but I don't see how rageblade irelia has a weaker laning phase than an irelia that goes straight for trinity force. The extra damage output and attack speed from rageblade seems viable to me since I tend to build irelia as a hybrid, and take more defensive masteries to compensate...


But isn't it pretty hard to charge up tear on singed since the toggle doesn't count as a proc? so you're essentially saying that you are able to get close to/over 250 procs with just glue/fling/ulti in just a 35 min game? I'm not lvl 30 yet, but this seems pretty hard.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 02:39:02
June 19 2011 02:35 GMT
#17672
Stop it guys, he disappeared. Now we can never know his summoner name.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 19 2011 02:40 GMT
#17673
Guys, he's obviously Dyrus trolling us from dreamhack.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 19 2011 02:41 GMT
#17674
Now if only we could chase off all the other trolls in here....
*shifty eyes*
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
June 19 2011 02:41 GMT
#17675
Awwww, we just drove dyrus away.
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 02:45:02
June 19 2011 02:44 GMT
#17676
I'm playing games at the moment, I'm sorry if I don't post immediately.... I'm editing previous posts in between sc2 ladder.

I'll clearly refrain from posting builds until I feel I'm a better player, and understand the science of this game more - I edited a previous post regarding tear procs, it's not the mana I'm going for, but the health because of singed's passive... People make good points wrt the irelia rageblade.
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 03:35:20
June 19 2011 02:46 GMT
#17677
On June 19 2011 11:44 Boundless wrote:
I'm playing games at the moment, I'm sorry if I don't post immediately.... I'm editing previous posts in between sc2 ladder.

I'll clearly refrain from posting builds until I feel I'm a better player, and understand the science of this game more - I edited a previous post regarding tear procs, it's not the mana I'm going for, but the health because of singed's passive... People make good points wrt the irelia rageblade.



why not JUST BUY HEALTH
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
June 19 2011 02:49 GMT
#17678
I mentioned it a little earlier - assuming you have a good main tank on your team other than singed, you can build it into an archangels which provides a good late game damage boost....
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 19 2011 02:51 GMT
#17679
On June 19 2011 11:44 Boundless wrote:
I'm playing games at the moment, I'm sorry if I don't post immediately.... I'm editing previous posts in between sc2 ladder.

I'll clearly refrain from posting builds until I feel I'm a better player, and understand the science of this game more - I edited a previous post regarding tear procs, it's not the mana I'm going for, but the health because of singed's passive... People make good points wrt the irelia rageblade.

Yeah, sorry. This won't fly after you've already claimed to play LoL at the 2k ELO level- you don't get much better than that. Reported for trolling.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
June 19 2011 03:03 GMT
#17680
On June 19 2011 11:51 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 11:44 Boundless wrote:
I'm playing games at the moment, I'm sorry if I don't post immediately.... I'm editing previous posts in between sc2 ladder.

I'll clearly refrain from posting builds until I feel I'm a better player, and understand the science of this game more - I edited a previous post regarding tear procs, it's not the mana I'm going for, but the health because of singed's passive... People make good points wrt the irelia rageblade.

Yeah, sorry. This won't fly after you've already claimed to play LoL at the 2k ELO level- you don't get much better than that. Reported for trolling.


If only he came into here sounding like this. It's a good thing to ask questions and discuss possibilities of good builds, but people are going to question a new person who sounds authoritative but won't give out a summoner name.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
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