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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 16 2011 09:30 GMT
#14801
On May 16 2011 18:01 spinesheath wrote:
Zzzzzz. I play Janna to win my lane. Not to not-lose-too-horribly.

Sure if you are getting owned then E might help you not get owned as much, but it won't win you the lane either.

Also you underestimate the strength of a 600 range 24% slow at level 1. Blow summoners to escape? Success. Just run? 4 seconds of attacks from 2 people, success. Fight back? 2v1, success.

Or the other person stays next to their minions and you can't do anything without taking far more damage in return
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 16 2011 09:39 GMT
#14802
Protip: engage when there are less than 20 enemy minions.
Not to mention that spells don't pull minion aggro.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Nafaltar
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany302 Posts
May 16 2011 10:44 GMT
#14803
Like I said 2v1 W is superior and if you are facing a super weak 2v2 lane its solid, but most currently common 2v2 lane combos are stronger than a janna+x lane (especially if you take W instead of E). Making the way to win your lane not losing it early.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 16 2011 11:06 GMT
#14804
To be honest it depends what's going on in the game. If they're coming into your jungle and you lose the fight take q to get people out, if they're coming in and you win it take w to ensure a kill, if nothing is going on take w or e for the lane dominance/shield effect depending on what you need. If I'm with a ranged dps like ashe or trist I basically always take shield first.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 16 2011 11:14 GMT
#14805
On May 16 2011 20:06 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
To be honest it depends what's going on in the game. If they're coming into your jungle and you lose the fight take q to get people out, if they're coming in and you win it take w to ensure a kill, if nothing is going on take w or e for the lane dominance/shield effect depending on what you need. If I'm with a ranged dps like ashe or trist I basically always take shield first.


Gratz on 3k posts btw.

I think imma start putting out LoL videos from the perspective of a baddie. And by start I mean continue and by baddie I mean me.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 16 2011 11:30 GMT
#14806
tried ap morde:

don't like it, takes too long to do anything

also slow huehuehue
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 11:39:07
May 16 2011 11:38 GMT
#14807
It makes no sense really. You have shittier AP ratios and shorter range spells with no gap closer, the only reason to do it is to charge your shield faster, and its better to just get some resists so the shield itself is sturdier since it's pretty easy to charge it up to full at the start of a fight anyway.
Hotshotgg massing hextechs on morde and feeding makes me cry. He may be a slightly troll champ but if you build him with some sense he's not that bad.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 16 2011 11:53 GMT
#14808
On May 16 2011 20:14 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 20:06 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
To be honest it depends what's going on in the game. If they're coming into your jungle and you lose the fight take q to get people out, if they're coming in and you win it take w to ensure a kill, if nothing is going on take w or e for the lane dominance/shield effect depending on what you need. If I'm with a ranged dps like ashe or trist I basically always take shield first.


Gratz on 3k posts btw.

I think imma start putting out LoL videos from the perspective of a baddie. And by start I mean continue and by baddie I mean me.

Add that to my old account and bam, 5.5k easy.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 12:04:34
May 16 2011 12:04 GMT
#14809
you were saying about post count?
:D
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Iskusstvo
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom323 Posts
May 16 2011 12:19 GMT
#14810
Had the most satisfying win last night - first time playing Rumble and had to go solo mid against Ashe (who thankfully sucked), with malz/yi top lane, cait solo bottom and udyr jungling. Needless to say, my team fed like the opponents were newborn babies suckling on the teets of their delicious deaths and Udyr never even tried to gank once. Literally, the enemy fiddle had 15 kills by the twenty minute mark and was counting down to the surrender, so of course we didn't feel like giving him the courtesy. Then of course we completely failed at team fights since they had an Eve so any time a squishy got out of position, INSTAGIBBED. Somehow, when we were down all lane turrets and the mid inhib, we miraculously managed to focus right in a fight, won and pushed their inhib, won another team fight and baroned for the win. 56 minutes into the game we took down their nexus, with no-one on either side having less than ten deaths. I was actually shaking afterwards.
If your life had a face, I'd punch it. I'd punch your life in the face.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
May 16 2011 12:21 GMT
#14811
Wow jiji is playing on Neo's account o.O
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 16 2011 12:23 GMT
#14812
Shameless advertising of my own video in the spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +


Anyways, yesterday I thought it would be fun to play Amumu in 3v3, and it turns out I can play him as well as I play Galio, if not better. Pulled off some great bandage tosses across walls to catch opponents as they run, using it over a wall into top lane's bushes and catching an opponent trying to recall.
Plus he jungles well.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 16 2011 12:39 GMT
#14813
Well, Amumu and Galio are pretty similiar. The main problem Galio has is that Amumu is better at everything
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 16 2011 12:43 GMT
#14814
On May 16 2011 21:39 Shikyo wrote:
Well, Amumu and Galio are pretty similiar. The main problem Galio has is that Amumu is better at everything


Yeah, well thats why I don't play tank Galio anymore. I play him as an Tanky Caster with a large amount of AP (Wohoo deathcap!), then I have Shen if I want to play True tank, Amumu if I want to jungle and tank, and Kayle...

I don't really know what Kayle is supposed to do ._.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
May 16 2011 12:51 GMT
#14815
On May 16 2011 21:43 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 21:39 Shikyo wrote:
Well, Amumu and Galio are pretty similiar. The main problem Galio has is that Amumu is better at everything


Yeah, well thats why I don't play tank Galio anymore. I play him as an Tanky Caster with a large amount of AP (Wohoo deathcap!), then I have Shen if I want to play True tank, Amumu if I want to jungle and tank, and Kayle...

I don't really know what Kayle is supposed to do ._.


Ranged dps/support.


I still think galio is pretty boss. He does a lot more damage than amumu to squishies so he can chase down and kill ranged dps and mages fairly easily.

Amumu is kind of a 1 trick pony as he just blows his ult and runs in circles aimlessly after that
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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 16 2011 12:55 GMT
#14816
On May 16 2011 21:51 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 21:43 57 Corvette wrote:
On May 16 2011 21:39 Shikyo wrote:
Well, Amumu and Galio are pretty similiar. The main problem Galio has is that Amumu is better at everything


Yeah, well thats why I don't play tank Galio anymore. I play him as an Tanky Caster with a large amount of AP (Wohoo deathcap!), then I have Shen if I want to play True tank, Amumu if I want to jungle and tank, and Kayle...

I don't really know what Kayle is supposed to do ._.


Ranged dps/support.


I still think galio is pretty boss. He does a lot more damage than amumu to squishies so he can chase down and kill ranged dps and mages fairly easily.

Amumu is kind of a 1 trick pony as he just blows his ult and runs in circles aimlessly after that


Yeah, I noticed I was putting a lot less damage compared to when I played Galio, and I couldn't burst down a mage that was under 1/2 health, but he is just so easy to play. Thats why people may like him better. Galio requires more skill to play, but can dish out the pain if you are good with skillshots and flash.

Really? I didn't think Kayle would be a dps. Hmm, should look up a guide for her and try it out.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
May 16 2011 13:16 GMT
#14817
On May 16 2011 21:55 57 Corvette wrote:
(...)
Really? I didn't think Kayle would be a dps. Hmm, should look up a guide for her and try it out.

I wouldn't recommend it. Not only she's kind of UP now but also Shurelia is working on her remake. I don't know what else can you screw with Kayle but believe me, Shurelia will make her worse
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
May 16 2011 13:25 GMT
#14818
Yea but Amumu jungles like a boss, while Galio cant.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 16 2011 13:30 GMT
#14819
On May 16 2011 22:25 -Kato- wrote:
Yea but Amumu jungles like a boss, while Galio cant.


I know. Galio even died in his spotlight video vs the lizard. So then the question becomes Tanky Mage or Tanky Jungle..

I say both.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 16 2011 13:32 GMT
#14820
Amumu doesn't need flash to initiate, Amumu does much more damage to tanky champs, Amumu can jungle (very well), Amumu ganks much better.
Galio can invincify an ally, Galio farms/clears waves better (Amumu can push pretty fast but not as fast), Galio can defend towers much better, Galio is arguably a better solo.
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