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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On February 22 2011 02:27 DEN1ED wrote: Anyone have a quick irelia guide? Just got her and don't see any guides on here. I don't trust any other site with my LoL info. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168472 there is a search box in the top right | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On February 22 2011 02:27 DEN1ED wrote: Anyone have a quick irelia guide? Just got her and don't see any guides on here. I don't trust any other site with my LoL info. While I am both european and not high level, I will tell you how I play her: Take solo top, no exceptions. You can be even with or beat basically anyone. I level skills R>W>Q>E though many people disagree with me ;p. For runes I use Atkspeed Reds, Mspeed Quints, Armor seals and MRes Blues, masteries 0/9/21 with ghost and tele/flash. I start Doran's Blade against almost anyone ('cept Urgot, Cho and Cait.), then build another Blade, Recurve Bow, Boots (basically always Mercs) and depending on how I do either survivability, finish one of the Bow items etc. In laning you are mostly passive till 6, then you basically burst anytime your ultimate isn't on cooldown. In teamfights you want to be focusing squishies, oftentimes you might need to go from the back/side. Almost nobody here agrees with my item build and skilling order. Possibly because they think Atlanta can make better builds than me. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:18 Phrost wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168472 there is a search box in the top right To be fair, there really should be a guide in the OP, or at least a link to one later in the thread, for easy access. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:38 Scipaeus121212 wrote: While I am both european and not high level, I will tell you how I play her: Take solo top, no exceptions. You can be even with or beat basically anyone. I level skills R>W>Q>E though many people disagree with me ;p. For runes I use Atkspeed Reds, Mspeed Quints, Armor seals and MRes Blues, masteries 0/9/21 with ghost and tele/flash. I start Doran's Blade against almost anyone ('cept Urgot, Cho and Cait.), then build another Blade, Recurve Bow, Boots (basically always Mercs) and depending on how I do either survivability, finish one of the Bow items etc. In laning you are mostly passive till 6, then you basically burst anytime your ultimate isn't on cooldown. In teamfights you want to be focusing squishies, oftentimes you might need to go from the back/side. Almost nobody here agrees with my item build and skilling order. Possibly because they think Atlanta can make better builds than me. Yeah. Count me in the people who disagree. Dshield, Boots+3, or cloth+5 are all better choices. Skill order imo is q>e>W, with a point in w at 2 or 3 depending on how badly you need the regen. Boots+sheen, boots2+Phage, zeal&infinity, then pure tank is the way to go. You are literally unkillable if you build trinity+tank, why waste that? | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:51 Two_DoWn wrote: Yeah. Count me in the people who disagree. Dshield, Boots+3, or cloth+5 are all better choices. Skill order imo is q>e>W, with a point in w at 2 or 3 depending on how badly you need the regen. Boots+sheen, boots2+Phage, zeal&infinity, then pure tank is the way to go. You are literally unkillable if you build trinity+tank, why waste that? Same exact thing except I do r>e>q>w. E points give the most bonus damage and utility. | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:06 cascades wrote: GG numbers removing me from flist cos he now high elo. GG i remove every1 I don't talk to, is inactive, or don't know in my list. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:09 0123456789 wrote: GG i remove every1 I don't talk to, is inactive, or don't know in my list. Mental note: say hi to numbers every day. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
removing people like that | ||
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rigwarl
United States540 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
if you are truly at a higher skill level than your elo answer represents, duo queueing will put you with players at a higher level, where you belong, and also eliminate one retard from your team. but if you duo queue and aren't really ~100 elo better than your elo you'll just get crushed | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:59 gtrsrs wrote: easy answer: yes if you are truly at a higher skill level than your elo answer represents, duo queueing will put you with players at a higher level, where you belong, and also eliminate one retard from your team. but if you duo queue and aren't really ~100 elo better than your elo you'll just get crushed Or in my case, I get worse retards when I duo q than when I solo q. It really is quite funny that way. Edit: actually, caller sums up my experience pretty damn well. I just never bothered thinking that deeply about it. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:59 gtrsrs wrote: easy answer: yes if you are truly at a higher skill level than your elo answer represents, duo queueing will put you with players at a higher level, where you belong, and also eliminate one retard from your team. but if you duo queue and aren't really ~100 elo better than your elo you'll just get crushed alternatively, you should keep in mind that by duo qing and playing with better players you will almost assuredly be last pick, which means that your trash teammates will pick vlad and corki solos without listening to you and then proceed to feed. At least with solo q, i have a decent chance of being 2nd or first pick, which pretty much means that you get your solo to promptly rape and win. Not to mention people will tend to listen to you more. The higher the elo the bigger the ego but the skill level is more or less the same (i.e. trash) | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
 if you can't play at least 2 ap carries, 1 ad carry, 2 junglers, and a handful of bottom lane support/tanks then you should really learn those before you become that "I DON'T JUNGLE" or "I DON'T PLY TANKER PLZ" guy in a ranked guy | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On February 22 2011 05:27 gtrsrs wrote: alternatively, you could just get good at a champ in every position, like you SHOULD be before you start playing ranked, so you can fit any position your teams needs if you're the last pick if you can't play at least 2 ap carries, 1 ad carry, 2 junglers, and a handful of bottom lane support/tanks then you should really learn those before you become that "I DON'T JUNGLE" or "I DON'T PLY TANKER PLZ" guy in a ranked guy nahhhh look at westrice he 2k elo and terrible with anything thats not akali i do agree that you should learn all roles, but that usually is contingent on ur team not totally failing. If there is a high chance that your team will fail, get a solo and carry-tanky dps is easiest to achieve this with. Once you get to 1700ish you can feel reasonably comfortable (read: more than 50%) that the game won't be over by laning phase, learning different roles is a must to get any further. A good tank is a must though: knowing how to play tank is far more important, although it isnt very rewarding. Shen is an easy tank to learn, as is Rammus (when hes not banned) and Malphite. Tanky DPS is not tanking, although you may find your roles overlapping, espeically with the lack of a dedicated tank. Also learn how to play Janna. When she's not banned she's generally a free win (assuming both solos dont fail) | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:59 gtrsrs wrote: easy answer: yes if you are truly at a higher skill level than your elo answer represents, duo queueing will put you with players at a higher level, where you belong, and also eliminate one retard from your team. but if you duo queue and aren't really ~100 elo better than your elo you'll just get crushed better answer: vman7 | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On February 22 2011 05:36 Caller wrote: nahhhh look at westrice he 2k elo and terrible with anything thats not akali i do agree that you should learn all roles, but that usually is contingent on ur team not totally failing. If there is a high chance that your team will fail, get a solo and carry-tanky dps is easiest to achieve this with. Once you get to 1700ish you can feel reasonably comfortable (read: more than 50%) that the game won't be over by laning phase, learning different roles is a must to get any further. A good tank is a must though: knowing how to play tank is far more important, although it isnt very rewarding. Shen is an easy tank to learn, as is Rammus (when hes not banned) and Malphite. Tanky DPS is not tanking, although you may find your roles overlapping, espeically with the lack of a dedicated tank. Also learn how to play Janna. When she's not banned she's generally a free win (assuming both solos dont fail) Honestly I've seen more games decided by which team has Janna and/or Zilean and if they can take advantage of the support. I played Janna for like MAYBE the 3rd time ever in ranked and absolutely destroyed any cohesion the enemy team would have otherwise had. | ||
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