all i see is a bunch of people trying really hard in a normals
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
all i see is a bunch of people trying really hard in a normals | ||
dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
How many games did it take you guys to get that fwotd? | ||
ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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Odds
Canada1188 Posts
On January 16 2011 17:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: | ||
ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On January 16 2011 17:49 dnastyx wrote: How many games did it take you guys to get that fwotd? We won the first one? idk this is a couple games in, not sure, I've had mine for a couple hours. | ||
HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On January 16 2011 17:05 yazu wrote: Malphite dominates kennen in lane. All you have to do is not waste mana and play passive until level 5. After that you start hitting with q and denying him so you reach lvl 6 before him. Then you either go for the finisher or he backs, which in turn you push the lane, tp back yourself, and get your items, making sure to get some mana pots. After you are in lane again immediately do your ult combo on him. The point is not to kill him but to make it possible that he can no longer lane against you. From there you deny him and you win the lane pretty fucking hard. However you need to run the runepage I do or else this might not work, it might but not as well. Sorry shiroi the first part of that was just saying I can beat Ken with malph, the second was how to play against Ken as irelia ![]() | ||
yazu
United States255 Posts
On January 16 2011 18:33 gtrsrs wrote: Sorry shiroi the first part of that was just saying I can beat Ken with malph, the second was how to play against Ken as irelia ![]() Its like someone is trying to tell me something.... I just can't seem to put my head around what they are trying to say though. | ||
Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Elo hell doesn't exist? My ass... just played TF and: Our Nunu disconnects, then he comes back 10 min later or so, just in time to dodge the leaver mark. When he came back in he said "lag" and he stayed at the fountain. Did I mention, that he'd only cast his ult after I stunned someone? What's the fucking point, this guy is dead anyway. Our Xin. NEVER. NEVER. Never fought with us. But he'd regularly charge 1v5 and die. Then die again, cause he had Guardian Angel. Our Vlad did exactly the same, except that it's vlad and he had Hourglass, so he died a bit less... No, actually, looking at the score screen, he somehow managed to die even more. Fuck me sideways. Kassadin was 4/16 at the end. No amount of typing or anything would get Xin and Vlad to cooperate. Nothing. We warded, etc, blabla, but eventually the other team became too fed for me to kill them and they just walked us over. Fuck this game, it is not worth my time dealing with this shit. | ||
Odds
Canada1188 Posts
On January 16 2011 20:25 Nikon wrote: Our Vlad did exactly the same, except that it's vlad and he had Hourglass, so he died a bit less... No, actually, looking at the score screen, he somehow managed to die even more. Fuck me sideways. This rustled my jimmies. | ||
Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
On January 16 2011 20:25 Nikon wrote: Fuck this game. Seriously. Elo hell doesn't exist? My ass... just played TF and: Our Nunu disconnects, then he comes back 10 min later or so, just in time to dodge the leaver mark. When he came back in he said "lag" and he stayed at the fountain. Did I mention, that he'd only cast his ult after I stunned someone? What's the fucking point, this guy is dead anyway. Our Xin. NEVER. NEVER. Never fought with us. But he'd regularly charge 1v5 and die. Then die again, cause he had Guardian Angel. Our Vlad did exactly the same, except that it's vlad and he had Hourglass, so he died a bit less... No, actually, looking at the score screen, he somehow managed to die even more. Fuck me sideways. Kassadin was 4/16 at the end. No amount of typing or anything would get Xin and Vlad to cooperate. Nothing. We warded, etc, blabla, but eventually the other team became too fed for me to kill them and they just walked us over. Fuck this game, it is not worth my time dealing with this shit. Everyone has games like that at some point. Everyone. | ||
Truez
Australia147 Posts
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Asdkmoga
United States496 Posts
On January 16 2011 20:25 Nikon wrote: No amount of typing or anything would get Xin and Vlad to cooperate. Nothing. We warded, etc, blabla, but eventually the other team became too fed for me to kill them and they just walked us over. Fuck this game, it is not worth my time dealing with this shit. i just go into every game fully expecting a loss and nothing more anytime we have a pick up games still decent when played with friends >.O | ||
ghen
United States1356 Posts
Elo hell is defined by who your teammates are and quite simply if you belong at a higher Elo or not. It's a yes or no question so there will be 2 answers. 10 random people are put together in a game in 2 random teams. Lets say that 8 of these people suck, that means 2 of them will determine the game. If you think you are one of these 2 people then your team is guaranteed to at least be even as far as # of feeders go. Furthermore, there is a 45% chance that you'll also get the other good player on your team and completely own the other guys. If this is what happens to you, then you belong in higher Elo. You will win 45% of the games no problem and will have to carry the other 65% winning about 50% of them or 32%. Total win percentage of 77%. If this DOESN'T happen to you then you do not belong in a higher Elo. Notice that there is no room between these two for Elo hell to exist, because IT DOES NOT. | ||
Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
On January 16 2011 22:45 ghen wrote: Nikon: Elo hell is defined by who your teammates are and quite simply if you belong at a higher Elo or not. It's a yes or no question so there will be 2 answers. 10 random people are put together in a game in 2 random teams. Lets say that 8 of these people suck, that means 2 of them will determine the game. If you think you are one of these 2 people then your team is guaranteed to at least be even as far as # of feeders go. Furthermore, there is a 45% chance that you'll also get the other good player on your team and completely own the other guys. If this is what happens to you, then you belong in higher Elo. You will win 45% of the games no problem and will have to carry the other 65% winning about 50% of them or 32%. Total win percentage of 77%. If this DOESN'T happen to you then you do not belong in a higher Elo. Notice that there is no room between these two for Elo hell to exist, because IT DOES NOT. Simple math > ELO hell. | ||
Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Don't know if I managed to convey my feelings on the matter clearly, but for what it's worth, here it is. | ||
Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
On January 16 2011 23:09 Nikon wrote: Let's say that I'm secretly a super-god es #1 2700 ELO in BR and I just have to grind it out. That's understandable, but it's also not the point. The point is that I don't want to play these shit games. I mean, there are ranking games so that this wouldn't happen, right? Wrong, apparently. It's a wild crapshoot whether or not you'd get decent teammates, more often you don't... I don't know if most of you guys find carrying 4 retards fun - if you do, good for you. But I absolutely do not want to play games where I'm in that position. Regardless of whether I win or lose them. It puts me on a sick tilt, and generally ruins the enjoyability of the game. Don't know if I managed to convey my feelings on the matter clearly, but for what it's worth, here it is. So add the few people you feel are good to your friendslist and start playing arranged with them, then you will atleast not have your team to blame. | ||
Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On January 16 2011 23:09 Nikon wrote: Let's say that I'm secretly a super-god es #1 2700 ELO in BR and I just have to grind it out. That's understandable, but it's also not the point. The point is that I don't want to play these shit games. I mean, there are ranking games so that this wouldn't happen, right? Wrong, apparently. It's a wild crapshoot whether or not you'd get decent teammates, more often you don't... I don't know if most of you guys find carrying 4 retards fun - if you do, good for you. But I absolutely do not want to play games where I'm in that position. Regardless of whether I win or lose them. It puts me on a sick tilt, and generally ruins the enjoyability of the game. Don't know if I managed to convey my feelings on the matter clearly, but for what it's worth, here it is. You have to realize that's what solo queue does to you. If you don't enjoy it, then don't play it. For me, even winning in solo queue puts a bad taste in my mouth, so I avoid it. Don't play it if you don't enjoy it. Go troll more normals with TL. | ||
oberon
United States1320 Posts
On January 16 2011 06:09 Caller wrote: the fact that the only ones that can do well against kennen are kass corki malph anivia vlad says something about the state of this game There are others. Nidalee is a draw if she's careful. Cho is a draw if he's even half competent (though he can pretty much never, ever win vs. Kennen). Panth is like a hard counter to Kennen. He's a strong laner, yes. Some champs he'll just wreck. But he's not unstoppable. | ||
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