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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
January 16 2011 08:26 GMT
#4061
On January 16 2011 17:17 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
[image loading]

EVERYONE FUCKING BOW DOWN

THE KING IS HERE

all i see is a bunch of people trying really hard in a normals
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
January 16 2011 08:49 GMT
#4062
On January 16 2011 17:17 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
[image loading]

EVERYONE FUCKING BOW DOWN

THE KING IS HERE


How many games did it take you guys to get that fwotd?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 16 2011 08:49 GMT
#4063
Games like that are what we live for lol.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
January 16 2011 08:52 GMT
#4064
On January 16 2011 17:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Gamesphotoshops like that are what we live for lol.

Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 16 2011 08:55 GMT
#4065
On January 16 2011 17:49 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 17:17 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
[image loading]

EVERYONE FUCKING BOW DOWN

THE KING IS HERE


How many games did it take you guys to get that fwotd?

We won the first one? idk this is a couple games in, not sure, I've had mine for a couple hours.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 16 2011 09:18 GMT
#4066
Hmm looks fun. Though I'll stick to 3v3'ing with my irl friends. Free Nid week too funny.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 16 2011 09:33 GMT
#4067
On January 16 2011 17:05 yazu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 02:02 gtrsrs wrote:
On January 16 2011 00:55 Phrost wrote:
So I was forced to lane against a kennen. Is there anyway for it to not suck? Even with my super irelia regen build i was getting harassed to the point of just wanting to altf4 out of the game and take the leave.


tl;dr

what should you aim for when laning against a solo kennen?


the only person I can beat kennen with is malphite, your best bet is to play aggressive early and hope he blows his summoner trying to kill you, then back and come to lane with a bunch of hp pots and one of two things will happen. 1 he'll harass you and you'll shrug it off and farm, or 2 he'll see that you have 63 health pots and not bother harassig you and you'll both just farm. I also like to push the lane against kennen and back frequently to buy MR. At level 10 irelia can beat kennen if kennen doesn't have his giants belt


Malphite dominates kennen in lane. All you have to do is not waste mana and play passive until level 5. After that you start hitting with q and denying him so you reach lvl 6 before him. Then you either go for the finisher or he backs, which in turn you push the lane, tp back yourself, and get your items, making sure to get some mana pots. After you are in lane again immediately do your ult combo on him. The point is not to kill him but to make it possible that he can no longer lane against you. From there you deny him and you win the lane pretty fucking hard. However you need to run the runepage I do or else this might not work, it might but not as well.



Sorry shiroi the first part of that was just saying I can beat Ken with malph, the second was how to play against Ken as irelia
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
yazu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States255 Posts
January 16 2011 10:10 GMT
#4068
On January 16 2011 18:33 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 17:05 yazu wrote:
On January 16 2011 02:02 gtrsrs wrote:
On January 16 2011 00:55 Phrost wrote:
So I was forced to lane against a kennen. Is there anyway for it to not suck? Even with my super irelia regen build i was getting harassed to the point of just wanting to altf4 out of the game and take the leave.


tl;dr

what should you aim for when laning against a solo kennen?


the only person I can beat kennen with is malphite, your best bet is to play aggressive early and hope he blows his summoner trying to kill you, then back and come to lane with a bunch of hp pots and one of two things will happen. 1 he'll harass you and you'll shrug it off and farm, or 2 he'll see that you have 63 health pots and not bother harassig you and you'll both just farm. I also like to push the lane against kennen and back frequently to buy MR. At level 10 irelia can beat kennen if kennen doesn't have his giants belt


Malphite dominates kennen in lane. All you have to do is not waste mana and play passive until level 5. After that you start hitting with q and denying him so you reach lvl 6 before him. Then you either go for the finisher or he backs, which in turn you push the lane, tp back yourself, and get your items, making sure to get some mana pots. After you are in lane again immediately do your ult combo on him. The point is not to kill him but to make it possible that he can no longer lane against you. From there you deny him and you win the lane pretty fucking hard. However you need to run the runepage I do or else this might not work, it might but not as well.



Sorry shiroi the first part of that was just saying I can beat Ken with malph, the second was how to play against Ken as irelia


Its like someone is trying to tell me something.... I just can't seem to put my head around what they are trying to say though.
g.cuisine
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
January 16 2011 11:25 GMT
#4069
Fuck this game. Seriously.

Elo hell doesn't exist? My ass... just played TF and:

Our Nunu disconnects, then he comes back 10 min later or so, just in time to dodge the leaver mark. When he came back in he said "lag" and he stayed at the fountain. Did I mention, that he'd only cast his ult after I stunned someone? What's the fucking point, this guy is dead anyway.

Our Xin. NEVER. NEVER. Never fought with us. But he'd regularly charge 1v5 and die. Then die again, cause he had Guardian Angel.

Our Vlad did exactly the same, except that it's vlad and he had Hourglass, so he died a bit less... No, actually, looking at the score screen, he somehow managed to die even more. Fuck me sideways.

Kassadin was 4/16 at the end.

No amount of typing or anything would get Xin and Vlad to cooperate. Nothing. We warded, etc, blabla, but eventually the other team became too fed for me to kill them and they just walked us over. Fuck this game, it is not worth my time dealing with this shit.

Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
January 16 2011 11:49 GMT
#4070
On January 16 2011 20:25 Nikon wrote:
Our Vlad did exactly the same, except that it's vlad and he had Hourglass, so he died a bit less... No, actually, looking at the score screen, he somehow managed to die even more. Fuck me sideways.

This rustled my jimmies.
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 16 2011 12:31 GMT
#4071
On January 16 2011 20:25 Nikon wrote:
Fuck this game. Seriously.

Elo hell doesn't exist? My ass... just played TF and:

Our Nunu disconnects, then he comes back 10 min later or so, just in time to dodge the leaver mark. When he came back in he said "lag" and he stayed at the fountain. Did I mention, that he'd only cast his ult after I stunned someone? What's the fucking point, this guy is dead anyway.

Our Xin. NEVER. NEVER. Never fought with us. But he'd regularly charge 1v5 and die. Then die again, cause he had Guardian Angel.

Our Vlad did exactly the same, except that it's vlad and he had Hourglass, so he died a bit less... No, actually, looking at the score screen, he somehow managed to die even more. Fuck me sideways.

Kassadin was 4/16 at the end.

No amount of typing or anything would get Xin and Vlad to cooperate. Nothing. We warded, etc, blabla, but eventually the other team became too fed for me to kill them and they just walked us over. Fuck this game, it is not worth my time dealing with this shit.



Everyone has games like that at some point. Everyone.
Zero fighting.
Truez
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia147 Posts
January 16 2011 12:50 GMT
#4072
Rofl I got around the retards in soloq by just completely shying away from it- afk till some mates get on for some premade action.
Asdkmoga
Profile Joined May 2010
United States496 Posts
January 16 2011 12:57 GMT
#4073
On January 16 2011 20:25 Nikon wrote:
No amount of typing or anything would get Xin and Vlad to cooperate. Nothing. We warded, etc, blabla, but eventually the other team became too fed for me to kill them and they just walked us over. Fuck this game, it is not worth my time dealing with this shit.

i just go into every game fully expecting a loss and nothing more anytime we have a pick up

games still decent when played with friends >.O
"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action and over 600 is clearly the work of an ancient Sumerian demon or some shit."
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 13:48:04
January 16 2011 13:45 GMT
#4074
Nikon:

Elo hell is defined by who your teammates are and quite simply if you belong at a higher Elo or not. It's a yes or no question so there will be 2 answers.

10 random people are put together in a game in 2 random teams. Lets say that 8 of these people suck, that means 2 of them will determine the game. If you think you are one of these 2 people then your team is guaranteed to at least be even as far as # of feeders go. Furthermore, there is a 45% chance that you'll also get the other good player on your team and completely own the other guys.

If this is what happens to you, then you belong in higher Elo. You will win 45% of the games no problem and will have to carry the other 65% winning about 50% of them or 32%. Total win percentage of 77%.

If this DOESN'T happen to you then you do not belong in a higher Elo.

Notice that there is no room between these two for Elo hell to exist, because IT DOES NOT.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 16 2011 14:06 GMT
#4075
On January 16 2011 22:45 ghen wrote:
Nikon:

Elo hell is defined by who your teammates are and quite simply if you belong at a higher Elo or not. It's a yes or no question so there will be 2 answers.

10 random people are put together in a game in 2 random teams. Lets say that 8 of these people suck, that means 2 of them will determine the game. If you think you are one of these 2 people then your team is guaranteed to at least be even as far as # of feeders go. Furthermore, there is a 45% chance that you'll also get the other good player on your team and completely own the other guys.

If this is what happens to you, then you belong in higher Elo. You will win 45% of the games no problem and will have to carry the other 65% winning about 50% of them or 32%. Total win percentage of 77%.

If this DOESN'T happen to you then you do not belong in a higher Elo.

Notice that there is no room between these two for Elo hell to exist, because IT DOES NOT.


Simple math > ELO hell.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
January 16 2011 14:09 GMT
#4076
Let's say that I'm secretly a super-god es #1 2700 ELO in BR and I just have to grind it out. That's understandable, but it's also not the point. The point is that I don't want to play these shit games. I mean, there are ranking games so that this wouldn't happen, right? Wrong, apparently. It's a wild crapshoot whether or not you'd get decent teammates, more often you don't... I don't know if most of you guys find carrying 4 retards fun - if you do, good for you. But I absolutely do not want to play games where I'm in that position. Regardless of whether I win or lose them. It puts me on a sick tilt, and generally ruins the enjoyability of the game.

Don't know if I managed to convey my feelings on the matter clearly, but for what it's worth, here it is.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 16 2011 14:21 GMT
#4077
On January 16 2011 23:09 Nikon wrote:
Let's say that I'm secretly a super-god es #1 2700 ELO in BR and I just have to grind it out. That's understandable, but it's also not the point. The point is that I don't want to play these shit games. I mean, there are ranking games so that this wouldn't happen, right? Wrong, apparently. It's a wild crapshoot whether or not you'd get decent teammates, more often you don't... I don't know if most of you guys find carrying 4 retards fun - if you do, good for you. But I absolutely do not want to play games where I'm in that position. Regardless of whether I win or lose them. It puts me on a sick tilt, and generally ruins the enjoyability of the game.

Don't know if I managed to convey my feelings on the matter clearly, but for what it's worth, here it is.


So add the few people you feel are good to your friendslist and start playing arranged with them, then you will atleast not have your team to blame.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 16 2011 14:21 GMT
#4078
What's the math for the people that feed?
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
January 16 2011 14:27 GMT
#4079
On January 16 2011 23:09 Nikon wrote:
Let's say that I'm secretly a super-god es #1 2700 ELO in BR and I just have to grind it out. That's understandable, but it's also not the point. The point is that I don't want to play these shit games. I mean, there are ranking games so that this wouldn't happen, right? Wrong, apparently. It's a wild crapshoot whether or not you'd get decent teammates, more often you don't... I don't know if most of you guys find carrying 4 retards fun - if you do, good for you. But I absolutely do not want to play games where I'm in that position. Regardless of whether I win or lose them. It puts me on a sick tilt, and generally ruins the enjoyability of the game.

Don't know if I managed to convey my feelings on the matter clearly, but for what it's worth, here it is.


You have to realize that's what solo queue does to you. If you don't enjoy it, then don't play it. For me, even winning in solo queue puts a bad taste in my mouth, so I avoid it. Don't play it if you don't enjoy it. Go troll more normals with TL.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
January 16 2011 16:24 GMT
#4080
On January 16 2011 06:09 Caller wrote:
the fact that the only ones that can do well against kennen are
kass
corki
malph
anivia
vlad

says something about the state of this game


There are others. Nidalee is a draw if she's careful. Cho is a draw if he's even half competent (though he can pretty much never, ever win vs. Kennen). Panth is like a hard counter to Kennen.

He's a strong laner, yes. Some champs he'll just wreck. But he's not unstoppable.
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