• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:38
CET 16:38
KST 00:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
What are former legends up to these days? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1328 users

General Discussion/Off-topic - Page 202

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 200 201 202 203 204 1152 Next
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
January 15 2011 15:55 GMT
#4021
So I was forced to lane against a kennen. Is there anyway for it to not suck? Even with my super irelia regen build i was getting harassed to the point of just wanting to altf4 out of the game and take the leave.


tl;dr

what should you aim for when laning against a solo kennen?
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 16:46:56
January 15 2011 16:46 GMT
#4022
not getting rolled

hate that guy in lane, can't kill him, can't gank him, just farm as best you can
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
January 15 2011 16:52 GMT
#4023
against kennen I try to be better at skill shots, not be near my creeps to force him to choose who to lightning, and hope that he lightning's creeps so that the lane pushes.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 15 2011 17:02 GMT
#4024
On January 16 2011 00:55 Phrost wrote:
So I was forced to lane against a kennen. Is there anyway for it to not suck? Even with my super irelia regen build i was getting harassed to the point of just wanting to altf4 out of the game and take the leave.


tl;dr

what should you aim for when laning against a solo kennen?


the only person I can beat kennen with is malphite, your best bet is to play aggressive early and hope he blows his summoner trying to kill you, then back and come to lane with a bunch of hp pots and one of two things will happen. 1 he'll harass you and you'll shrug it off and farm, or 2 he'll see that you have 63 health pots and not bother harassig you and you'll both just farm. I also like to push the lane against kennen and back frequently to buy MR. At level 10 irelia can beat kennen if kennen doesn't have his giants belt
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 17:12:33
January 15 2011 17:06 GMT
#4025
Don't forget LoL customizing software!

http://liquidlol.wikispaces.com/Software

The two best of course are the mastery saver (new addition!) and recommended item changer
iaeuy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 18:30:32
January 15 2011 18:29 GMT
#4026
Edit: spoke too soon
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
January 15 2011 20:05 GMT
#4027
You can actually fight kennen with Irelia I think, not sure never really laned against Irelia.

But as long as you keep your farm at a decent lvl and get your mercury threads as first item you should be relatively "fine".
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
January 15 2011 20:59 GMT
#4028
Kennen's my main. The best champs against him are those that can sit in creeps and hit him. Kass is OK, but only once he hits level 5 or so and his Q is mana efficient. Same with Malph. Corki's Q is another good skill against Kennen, and gatling gun let's Corki win the toe-to-toe fights. Anivia is sorta a draw. Vlad is good, but only at level 7 or 9, earlier on he has to be really careful (this matchup is usually a draw in my experience). You can even do ok with someone like Ashe if you're really, really good, by sitting in creeps to block shurikens and using autoattacks. But the best you're getting in that case is probably, again, a draw (and depending on items/summoners, Ashe/Trist/Sivir may just autolose to Ken).
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
January 15 2011 21:09 GMT
#4029
the fact that the only ones that can do well against kennen are
kass
corki
malph
anivia
vlad

says something about the state of this game
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 15 2011 21:15 GMT
#4030
revive/clarity trundle carry

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7871/trundled.jpg
Brees on in
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 15 2011 21:20 GMT
#4031
On January 16 2011 06:09 Caller wrote:
the fact that the only ones that can do well against kennen are
kass
corki
malph
anivia
vlad

says something about the state of this game

Wasn't the conclusion from the discussion in the old thread that Nidalee also wins lane against Kennen?
Moderator
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 15 2011 21:23 GMT
#4032
Chogath
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 15 2011 21:23 GMT
#4033
It's a close matchup~
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
January 15 2011 21:45 GMT
#4034
After the new zhonyas fix, kennen isn't as strong anymore.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 15 2011 21:47 GMT
#4035
On January 16 2011 06:45 0123456789 wrote:
After the new zhonyas fix, kennen isn't as strong anymore.


wat? I don't think so. Might take longer to farm up Rylai's => Deathcap => Zhonya's instead of just Rylai's => Zhonya's but he's still strong as fuck. If anything, if Kennen gets enough farm to hit his trifecta, he's even more ghey than before.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 21:51:59
January 15 2011 21:51 GMT
#4036
On January 16 2011 06:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 06:45 0123456789 wrote:
After the new zhonyas fix, kennen isn't as strong anymore.


wat? I don't think so. Might take longer to farm up Rylai's => Deathcap => Zhonya's instead of just Rylai's => Zhonya's but he's still strong as fuck. If anything, if Kennen gets enough farm to hit his trifecta, he's even more ghey than before.


Without zhonyas, he's really vulnerable in fights. That's huge. Kennen needs to get into psuedo melee range to really do dmg. Zhonyas allowed him to get there and stay there for the duration of his ult. Now, he's super vulnerable.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 15 2011 22:08 GMT
#4037
On January 16 2011 06:51 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 06:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 16 2011 06:45 0123456789 wrote:
After the new zhonyas fix, kennen isn't as strong anymore.


wat? I don't think so. Might take longer to farm up Rylai's => Deathcap => Zhonya's instead of just Rylai's => Zhonya's but he's still strong as fuck. If anything, if Kennen gets enough farm to hit his trifecta, he's even more ghey than before.


Without zhonyas, he's really vulnerable in fights. That's huge. Kennen needs to get into psuedo melee range to really do dmg. Zhonyas allowed him to get there and stay there for the duration of his ult. Now, he's super vulnerable.


If you feel that the invul active is that necessary for Kennen, go Rylai's => Zhonya's => Deathcap. But I still think Kennen's ulti is so ridiculous that you can stun, if not kill, most of your enemies before they can redirect their focus on you. Don't initiate with Kennen too aggressively. Run in first maybe, but make sure your tank is closely behind to CC the enemy off you after your ulti is more or less done. But for the most part, I think E + Ghost in, Ulti, Flash out and you're good as gold.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 22:18:41
January 15 2011 22:16 GMT
#4038
On January 16 2011 06:51 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 06:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 16 2011 06:45 0123456789 wrote:
After the new zhonyas fix, kennen isn't as strong anymore.


wat? I don't think so. Might take longer to farm up Rylai's => Deathcap => Zhonya's instead of just Rylai's => Zhonya's but he's still strong as fuck. If anything, if Kennen gets enough farm to hit his trifecta, he's even more ghey than before.


Without zhonyas, he's really vulnerable in fights. That's huge. Kennen needs to get into psuedo melee range to really do dmg. Zhonyas allowed him to get there and stay there for the duration of his ult. Now, he's super vulnerable.

To be fair, I think he's weaker relative to other AP casters than he was before. Old Zhonya was better for Kennen because of the fact that he got more utility out of the Zhonya active than lots of other casters did. Deathcap is good for him but that's because Deathcap is just plain ridiculous--it's not better for him than other casters in the way Zhonya's was.
Moderator
Lunek
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland164 Posts
January 15 2011 22:40 GMT
#4039


a bit luxury tool, but really impressive implementation
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 22:46:02
January 15 2011 22:43 GMT
#4040
That new judging thing should be interesting. As someone pointed out (Mogwai I think?) could be a great way to kill time in Q. Dunno y but doing a couple of these while waiting for a Q to pop just seems like a great idea.

That LoL plugin looks cool, dunno that it'd change much. But it's a neat idea.
Prev 1 200 201 202 203 204 1152 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 53m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko462
IndyStarCraft 225
Livibee 207
Rex 123
SC2Nice 25
RushiSC 22
DivinesiaTV 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 2132
Mini 827
Hyuk 812
Larva 789
Soma 776
Stork 648
Snow 275
ZerO 263
Rush 173
Sharp 156
[ Show more ]
Aegong 154
BeSt 133
Hyun 97
EffOrt 71
910 71
Barracks 69
sorry 68
HiyA 57
Shuttle 55
Yoon 53
NotJumperer 52
Sea.KH 52
JYJ 35
ToSsGirL 35
Mind 30
soO 27
Sexy 19
Terrorterran 18
Shine 15
Movie 14
Bale 7
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
qojqva2886
Dendi841
syndereN400
420jenkins332
League of Legends
C9.Mang0443
Counter-Strike
allub212
Other Games
Grubby4580
singsing1923
hiko765
B2W.Neo523
Hui .360
Fuzer 342
QueenE109
ArmadaUGS88
Mew2King75
RotterdaM59
ZerO(Twitch)18
Organizations
Other Games
WardiTV1462
gamesdonequick785
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 10
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 38
• naamasc235
• poizon28 12
• Adnapsc2 7
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV374
• lizZardDota255
• Noizen47
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
1h 53m
OSC
20h 23m
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.