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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 23:06:21
January 08 2011 22:43 GMT
#3621
On January 09 2011 06:40 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Hello 0123456789
In response to:
Hey shen why don't you use your only escape ability to harass when eve is top

why dont you harass them if you knew eve was top?

Because you're doing nothing , and eating.

And also because garen was always in my face so i had to Q+ ki strike him.... why taunt someone who is already in front of you

Hey shen YOU should taunt first, THEN i tornado.
It's not like my taunt only lasts for a second, and u cant tornado right away.

YOU tornado, then i taunt.
IF i taunt, they will just walk away/dodge by the time your tornado casts and u can release it.

It's just common sense.

The backstory:
in most recent news i tell 0123456789 "this janna is doing nothing"
note his response is "im eating"

after the game he decides to shit talk me saying "janna is supposed to do nothing "


also note that he says it isn't talking shit, he was only "minorly cares" about it
then i say" why bother with it at all"
his response" becuase i wanna call you out on it"

hmm c=

tune in next time for answers from numbers.




Hey shen why don't you use your only escape ability to harass when eve is top

why dont you harass them if you knew eve was top?


I did not want to harass an eve and garen who were higher level than me due to being fed.

Hey shen YOU should taunt first, THEN i tornado.
It's not like my taunt only lasts for a second, and u cant tornado right away.

YOU tornado, then i taunt.
IF i taunt, they will just walk away/dodge by the time your tornado casts and u can release it.

It's just common sense.



Janna can release tornado fast by pressing q twice. One second of silence really helps with the taunt. Prevents lux and garen from casting spells. I have to get into lux root range which is pretty long to try and w or q. If I use tornado at a long range, neither you or I can catch up to effectively make use of knockup.



The backstory:
in most recent news i tell 0123456789 "this janna is doing nothing"
note his response is "im eating"

after the game he decides to shit talk me saying "janna is supposed to do nothing "




We go to lanes, I clair above bot brush, and see eve walking by. That signals either just a walk towards golems or gank. Either way, I'm playing defensive because eve is so close by. I'm not going to play aggressive due to the chance of a gank.

Around lvl 2 or 3, you tell me I'm doing nothing. You were near solo cs at the time. This means I was letting you cs and not taking any myself. At that time, I was also eating, so I just told you I was eating. Then I get to hear from you that I am doing "nothing". I like to let my lane partner farm up a lot. I guess this is interpreted as doing nothing. A little while later, garen and lux push up close to our tower. Lux hits you with a binding from our brush. I missed my shield to tank the binding dmg, but I get you a shield as garen walks out of the brush and e's you. Then I get the comment "you miss all your shields".They only harassed you once. I missed the tanking dmg on lux binding, so I proceed to tell you that I missed my shield which is true. I even give you shields to cs after this, because you tell me I'm doing nothing. After this wave pushes back, they maintain a position around bot brush closes to our tower. You go up to last hit, but you're last hitting in the sense that you are vulnerable to a lux binding. You weren't last hitting and backing up, you were maintaining a position near melee creeps. Lux hits you with a binding, and garen comes up to attack you. I throw my tornado and shield. Then eve comes in stealth, stuns, and you die. Then I get the you should have waited to tornado for eve. I was just throwing tornado early so that garen wouldn't be able to silence and e you, allowing you to take more dmg.


Second part of this. It's around lvl 5, Eve is near top. Both lux and garen turn 6. You proceed to not taunt out of garen who runs up to you but instead, fight them, and take garen silence and lux bind. They got to lvl 6 before us because of the death. I do not do the impossible. I can't save you from lux ult and garen ult. Sorry. That's not janna or any champion in the game.




Third part of this arguement. Shen asks me to q and w so that he can land a taunt. I already explained this. If you taunt lux, we can get off a ki strike, your passive, a slow, and tornado coupled with a silence so she takes more dmg before the bind. All that damage, don't think they're going to turn around and fight that. They can't fight because they also have to fight through an ignite, and janna shield.

And also because garen was always in my face so i had to Q+ ki strike him.... why taunt someone who is already in front of you



I believe taunting a lux that has lower hp leads to better results than taunting the garen.

lol its funny when people get mad and flame you then realize their point is wrong, and pretend they don't care. I don't expect him to even post a reply in this thread, and i've PM'd my post to him ;D




EzPz, please grow up. You know that I never raged at all, I talked to you in an adult like manner, and even apologized for calling you out. You proceeded to post this on the forums, lie about the details in your previous post, and in private chat proceeded to make comments that were childish, and obviously meant to belittle me. I know this is what you want EzPz, and you're successful. You got the drama out of me that you wanted, and you wanted me to respond. I guess this is what they call successful trolling.

If you want to continue this, idc. I'm not responding to any of this anymore, it's really pointless and stupid. Go ahead and send me all the pm's telling me how you won at I don't know what, go continue telling me why what I did was wrong etc. If what you want is another apology, a public one, then I'll give it to you. I'm sorry for calling you out, I'm sorry you misinterpreted a discussion I wanted to have with you at rage, and I forgive you even though you try to make me look bad publicly.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 08 2011 22:45 GMT
#3622
Oh man if I cared I'd totally read that and troll one of you.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 08 2011 22:47 GMT
#3623
It's called shitty riot servers. I get it all the time. I suppose it could be a lapse in my internet, but I don't randomly disconnect when I'm raiding or playing Starcraft so I'm just gonna blame Riot ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
January 08 2011 23:14 GMT
#3624
On January 09 2011 06:44 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 06:38 oberon wrote:
Has anyone tried using shaco to box lizard, but giving the red buff to an AD champ mid? I could even see going totally trashy and giving it to an ez or trist and have them go bot paired with a Janna. Can Shaco still jungle if he drops boxes then backs to regen mana like 15s before minions spawn?


Not specifically with Shaco boxes, but giving level 1 Lizard to a ranged DPS in mid or bot has been a strategy since beta. It leads to heavy early lane dominance and zoning. But that's to be expected, no?

I used to do that (drop 3 boxes, pill to come back with full mana) but it really doesn't make much of a difference, especially if you do end up starting at golem first. Shaco's jungling speed is limited more by the number of camps available or sometimes by JitB CD if you're waiting to do buffs without losing too much health.


So if it doesn't slow you down, it'd seem pretty strong...no? I've just never seen it done, and I was wondering why.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 23:28:32
January 08 2011 23:14 GMT
#3625
write long post then post
"

If you want to continue this, idc. I'm not responding to any of this anymore, it's really pointless and stupid."
lol.

You didn't even answer my statements lol
- u knew eve was top, you didn't harass.
- you picked janna so you could eat, even said so yourself, and you got upset because i said u were doing nothing. if anything i should be the one getting upset my lanemates eating, lool. *logic*
-you want me to taunt into a lux , so i can eat garen q+e and creep aggro.
-my taunt lasts .8 sec, your tornado isnt going to hit.
-this leads to you tornado first

Ah but wait you're not gonna read any of this anyways.
It's fun when you explain the best way to play, and people won't accept it because they're mad

==Read this==
OH i get why you want me to taunt first.
It's becuase you fail to realize lux will just bind both of us once my taunt runs out

you specifically say,

a slow, THEN tornado coupled with a silence
Well, i gotta tell you , sure u might land the slow that sets up the tornado but shes gonna
1) bind
2) realize shes not in danger of dying
3) help garen rape you, since you have relatively low hp.

You really don't see this playing out in your head?
This whole time i thought u were talking about taunt-> tornado, which is impossible, because taunt lasts .8sec , whereas you need more time to tornado

Also are you still on the whole trolling thing again. If it isn't obvious by now i just want to figure out the best way to play LoL, then i don't know how else to convince you.

And Durrr obviously im annoyed, because YOU came up to me after the game and started shittalking. I didn't say a word.
It may be in your "adult manner" but if you want to call me out on something that is standard flame, and is annoying because the game is over.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 23:31:51
January 08 2011 23:28 GMT
#3626
On January 09 2011 08:14 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 06:44 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 09 2011 06:38 oberon wrote:
Has anyone tried using shaco to box lizard, but giving the red buff to an AD champ mid? I could even see going totally trashy and giving it to an ez or trist and have them go bot paired with a Janna. Can Shaco still jungle if he drops boxes then backs to regen mana like 15s before minions spawn?


Not specifically with Shaco boxes, but giving level 1 Lizard to a ranged DPS in mid or bot has been a strategy since beta. It leads to heavy early lane dominance and zoning. But that's to be expected, no?

I used to do that (drop 3 boxes, pill to come back with full mana) but it really doesn't make much of a difference, especially if you do end up starting at golem first. Shaco's jungling speed is limited more by the number of camps available or sometimes by JitB CD if you're waiting to do buffs without losing too much health.


So if it doesn't slow you down, it'd seem pretty strong...no? I've just never seen it done, and I was wondering why.


Doesn't slow you down but doesn't speed you up by much either. Mana itself is not a limiting factor to fast jungling.

@Ez: just chill. Bad game with numbers, ok. No need to call him out here and drag it out further. Doesn't seem like he has anything more to say about it either. You guys can try playing together in a few weeks.

@Phrost: that's cause you're supposed to be dead. You mean "amagad, rage not involving 5hit?!?"
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
January 08 2011 23:28 GMT
#3627
woa, rage/drama not involving me?

/popcorning it up.


on a side note you should all go read Guinsoo's alistar testing, it sounds pretty cool
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Fishcakes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States149 Posts
January 08 2011 23:31 GMT
#3628
I'm reading the Alistar testing and depending how hard his passive hits he could become a good jungle with these changes.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
January 08 2011 23:33 GMT
#3629
This is why I only lane with Caller. At least I can expect him to consistently suck, so there's no surprise, = no feeding = win = inflated win%
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 20:25:42
January 08 2011 23:35 GMT
#3630
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 08 2011 23:53 GMT
#3631
On January 09 2011 07:30 HazMat wrote:
So theres this bug I've been getting since new patch. Pretty much I randomly stop moving and can't control my champ for 5-10 seconds. I've been getting this every other game .


This has happened to me as well, though not nearly as often as every other game. Does your champ still auto attack when you can't control it? Mine does when that happens.
Zero fighting.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 23:58:42
January 08 2011 23:55 GMT
#3632
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
January 08 2011 23:59 GMT
#3633
Blafargh, I'm so damn close to just throw this stupid game away and never look back. Why are you always on the side of the drooling morons that can't even spell their own names right. Solo mid Karthus going 0-6 in less than 5 minutes spending most of his time either dying to creeps in the jungle or running straight into towers. At least in DotA i knew what channels would bring a decent player. I don't even mind bad players, but I have hard time believing these guys actually manage to put on their pants in the morning.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 00:12:04
January 09 2011 00:11 GMT
#3634
Man I'm surprised riot hasnt patched the infinite gold exploit yet
caller is the biggest abuser of it in liquidparty
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last hit minions
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 00:37:04
January 09 2011 00:16 GMT
#3635
wow ezpz cry more plz
numbers is one of the most manner high level players in TL, i highly doubt that he's the one that started shit talking you. why don't you stop the QQ and go back to telling me how bad my advice in every thread is and keep pretending you're the best player on TL

edit: hook line and sinker, it took less than 10 minutes for ezpz to unfriend and ignore me in LoL client

y u so ez 2 troll bruh?

User was temp banned for this post.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 09 2011 00:22 GMT
#3636
On January 09 2011 08:59 Hynda wrote:
Blafargh, I'm so damn close to just throw this stupid game away and never look back. Why are you always on the side of the drooling morons that can't even spell their own names right. Solo mid Karthus going 0-6 in less than 5 minutes spending most of his time either dying to creeps in the jungle or running straight into towers. At least in DotA i knew what channels would bring a decent player. I don't even mind bad players, but I have hard time believing these guys actually manage to put on their pants in the morning.


This is why you play teleport revive TF and just BD all day.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
January 09 2011 00:26 GMT
#3637
On January 09 2011 09:22 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 08:59 Hynda wrote:
Blafargh, I'm so damn close to just throw this stupid game away and never look back. Why are you always on the side of the drooling morons that can't even spell their own names right. Solo mid Karthus going 0-6 in less than 5 minutes spending most of his time either dying to creeps in the jungle or running straight into towers. At least in DotA i knew what channels would bring a decent player. I don't even mind bad players, but I have hard time believing these guys actually manage to put on their pants in the morning.


This is why you play teleport revive TF and just BD all day.
we all try to live with ourself knowing that we just tried to save a AD gragas.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
January 09 2011 00:35 GMT
#3638
On January 08 2011 23:21 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2011 10:27 BraveGhost wrote:
does anyone play Udyr? I've been playing a few games here and there, but since I don't play enough/have enough time to figure out the optimal build for him, I was wondering if anyone has been playing him at all.. I haven't touched him for awhile, despite him being one of my favorite champs.

Is jungle udyr still the way to go? Is pheonix completely obsolete, thanks in advance

Hmm i thought we had udyr thread.
Udyr is still good in jungle, i don't think he's a bad pick and that choosing him will instantly lose you the game, it all depends on player. Just nowadays you see jungle given to more aggressive junglers, like shaco and eve. This is also one of the reasons why i think Shen became so loved, he's great duo laning tank so you don't have to get jungling tank.


i couldn't find a udyr thread =/

thanks for the response though, I messed around with udyr in practice games last night, and I couldn't jungle very well at all using my old build with cloth armor + pheonix, idk. i think my runes might be way off, but I always liked using my move speed quints, it made ganks etc very easy. I think I might just need to stay away from Udyr for now.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
January 09 2011 00:38 GMT
#3639
On January 09 2011 09:16 gtrsrs wrote:
wow ezpz cry more plz
numbers is one of the most manner high level players in TL, i highly doubt that he's the one that started shit talking you. why don't you stop the QQ and go back to telling me how bad my advice in every thread is and keep pretending you're the best player on TL

edit: hook line and sinker, it took less than 10 minutes for ezpz to unfriend and ignore me in LoL client

y u so ez 2 troll bruh?

you're talking shit to me, so i unfriended you. if this is trolling you're pretty bad at it.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 09 2011 00:38 GMT
#3640
On January 09 2011 09:38 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 09:16 gtrsrs wrote:
wow ezpz cry more plz
numbers is one of the most manner high level players in TL, i highly doubt that he's the one that started shit talking you. why don't you stop the QQ and go back to telling me how bad my advice in every thread is and keep pretending you're the best player on TL

edit: hook line and sinker, it took less than 10 minutes for ezpz to unfriend and ignore me in LoL client

y u so ez 2 troll bruh?

you're talking shit to me, so i unfriended you. if this is trolling you're pretty bad at it.


clearly i'm not
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