EPTSamuro Blade Master - Page 7
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Samuro shat all over me in ways I didn't think possible. Slow? Root? Ring of Frost? Ha! Here's my Unstoppable Bladestorm aaaaaaaaaaaaand you're dead. Oh you actually landed your combo on me? Ah ha, but I have a constant spell shield from my Q, so it doesn't hurt that much. And if it does, let me just E away and come back to kill you later. Assuming I didn't kill you already. I might also solo the boss later on for fun. Because you know...I can. Imagine Butcher or Kerrigan with this kind of mobility and escape. Eep. Atleast Illidan has to deal with Blind and actually risks something diving in. | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On November 01 2016 04:30 Immersion_ wrote: I took a break for a few days following samuro release (coincidence). I have played say 20-30 games in the last few days at master level and he has been banned every time. If I'm first ban I try to get my guy to pick malf so I can ban bw and then auriel on second ban phase as few people want to take support in first phase except malf who is known as op. Either way I have no idea if samuro is op, I've never played against him. Not saying he isn't but the herd mentality over certain heroes is always amusing. He's ridiculous. I almost had a comeback yesterday from 18% core and only top keep vs 3 forts up on Dragon Shire and our support being starfall Tyrande just because Samuro at 20 can move at mount speed with permament cloaking while also being able to bop every non-warrior in the game. | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
I've seen how monstrous he can be in Quickmatch, but that's Quickmatch, a place where Nova is actually good, so it's not the same. I just haven't seen him in enough real matches to understand how he's supposed to work. I've been expecting him to function like a Greymane or Kerrigan and he's massively underperformed those expectations. With the tiny amount of actual games I've played, I don't know if I just happened upon some terrible Samuro players or if I'm just assuming the wrong role for Samuro. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On November 01 2016 22:41 karazax wrote: He is more Zeratul than Greymane or Kerrigan I think. Single target get in and burst and get out again. In general reveal talents and AoE are strong against him to reveal and eliminate the clones. He can almost always escape, but if he isn't auto attacking he isn't doing anything at all. I think Tracer and Illidan are good against Samuro, but both are heroes that the average player isn't good with. Likewise Gul'dan, Kael'thas and Medivh if you can keep them alive can stack quest talents quickly against him. Still, at this point he is much more difficult for unorganized teams to deal with relative to the skill needed to be effective with him. I suppose that makes sense. Also, I completely shot our draft in the foot in that game then. Whoops. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
Dont understand whats so OP about him and i even felt this before his nerf kicked in. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Will be scary when the long term Samuro lovers will take these opportunities in a draft. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16056 Posts
On November 03 2016 00:47 karazax wrote: It's hard to say picking him first is screaming for a loss when his win rate is so high and his ban rate is insane. Part of the problem is many players pre-lock in their choices and refuse to change regardless of what their team or the other team is drafting. Yea but that's a problem with the playerbase not the hero pool. Blizzard can't be balancing the game around the stupidity of the community. | ||
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
With his Immortal Coil talent on 7 for additional self heal, the attack speed slow on 13 and the root on 16, Samuro has a hard time engaging Arthas without getting slowed/rooted and having his damage neutered. He probably could still solo Arthas but in a teamfight it makes a huge difference. Went for Ghouls for additional self heal and didn't regret it. He can still Bladestorm out of it but that is unlikely to kill Arthas and if he blows that on Arthas just to escape, that's a good thing for the team. | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6860 Posts
Impressions are the same as stated above, he plays very similar to Zeratul: You go in, blow all CDs and get out while hopefully killing a target/ making a difference. Main difference beeing: Zera has better selfsustain, Samuro can jungle Wombo-Combo potential is quite huge when someone sets you up (ETC, Zarya, Jaina, ...) and you can bladestorm 3+ targets | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On November 03 2016 00:47 karazax wrote: It's hard to say picking him first is screaming for a loss when his win rate is so high and his ban rate is insane. Part of the problem is many players pre-lock in their choices and refuse to change regardless of what their team or the other team is drafting. he is a stealth hero, of course his winrate is high with people not being used to play against invisible heroes and his counters being non common picks. Also explains his ban rate. "Don't wanna learn to play against a situational pick." But do you really want to put your game on the line hopeing the enemy has no idea how to deal with him ? Usually first pick games feel easy vs him. While last picks can end up a huge struggle. But I found out its incredible fun to play Morales vs him. Fun not easy ! I expect Heroes team to make him standard at some point, so enjoying unique games while I can. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
Thanks for the feedback, we agree that Leoric could use a couple of adjustments. We're exploring some options and should be able to look towards getting something out our focus on BlizzCon concludes. | ||
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