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Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
October 01 2016 18:21 GMT
#121
New hero should be Starcraft, theres still some really good iconic characters that they can put in.

I mean who doesn't want to play dragoon Phoenix? Or Duran?

I do
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
October 01 2016 20:06 GMT
#122
On October 02 2016 02:34 karazax wrote:
Most popular pro build is multishot:
1) Hot Pursuit
4) Punishment
7) Arsenal
10) either depending on matchup
13) Gloom unless there is minimal ability damage threats
16) Frost Shot
20) Farflight Quiver

Actually I've seen Seething hatred being chosen a lot more often than Frost Shot. It allows you to use Gloom more often, you have more consistent damage even if you didn't attack for some time and also allows you to get Rancor stacks fast when you pick that level 20 talent(today Sake chose Rancor in one of their games against L5).

And yes, when there isn't much ability damage you are going tempered by discipline, in which case Seething Hatred is also better choice as you start healing in team fights much faster and can easily solo camps.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
October 01 2016 20:28 GMT
#123
For pro games frost shot has been the only pick since the Alarak Patch:
Alarak patch builds
Zarya patch builds

Overall in hero league Manticore is the most popular pick, but also the lowest win rate. Frost Shot is the highest popularity and win rate in Diamond and Master.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
October 01 2016 21:11 GMT
#124
On October 02 2016 05:28 karazax wrote:
For pro games frost shot has been the only pick since the Alarak Patch:
Alarak patch builds
Zarya patch builds

That just can't be true because I've seen Seething Hatred a lot of times, I've been even arguing with my friend about that. In those statistics you can see in how many matches we see those builds and we've seen way more matches with Valla than what those numbers indicate.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-01 21:27:10
October 01 2016 21:21 GMT
#125
Maybe, can you find some examples?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 01 2016 21:24 GMT
#126
Sake played Seething Hatred in his both Valla games tonight.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-01 21:32:38
October 01 2016 21:28 GMT
#127
Yeah today's games aren't entered in for stats yet. Maybe their builds summary is incomplete, I don't know of anywhere else to check.
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
October 01 2016 22:48 GMT
#128
On October 02 2016 03:21 Beelzebub1 wrote:
New hero should be Starcraft, theres still some really good iconic characters that they can put in.

I mean who doesn't want to play dragoon Phoenix? Or Duran?

I do

When I imagine Fenix, I think of him in his Zealot form. All Dragoons look the same, so I feel like it'd be a shame to put Fenix in that shell. That being said, the Zealot archetype already exists in HotS, so I almost feel like there's no room for Fenix, if not in his Dragoon form. And honestly, playing a Dragoon in HotS doesn't sound that fun to me.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44254 Posts
October 01 2016 22:54 GMT
#129
On October 02 2016 07:48 wongfeihung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2016 03:21 Beelzebub1 wrote:
New hero should be Starcraft, theres still some really good iconic characters that they can put in.

I mean who doesn't want to play dragoon Phoenix? Or Duran?

I do

When I imagine Fenix, I think of him in his Zealot form. All Dragoons look the same, so I feel like it'd be a shame to put Fenix in that shell. That being said, the Zealot archetype already exists in HotS, so I almost feel like there's no room for Fenix, if not in his Dragoon form. And honestly, playing a Dragoon in HotS doesn't sound that fun to me.


Could you imagine his pathing if he was a dragoon? XD
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-02 00:18:11
October 02 2016 00:16 GMT
#130
On October 02 2016 07:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2016 07:48 wongfeihung wrote:
On October 02 2016 03:21 Beelzebub1 wrote:
New hero should be Starcraft, theres still some really good iconic characters that they can put in.

I mean who doesn't want to play dragoon Phoenix? Or Duran?

I do

When I imagine Fenix, I think of him in his Zealot form. All Dragoons look the same, so I feel like it'd be a shame to put Fenix in that shell. That being said, the Zealot archetype already exists in HotS, so I almost feel like there's no room for Fenix, if not in his Dragoon form. And honestly, playing a Dragoon in HotS doesn't sound that fun to me.


Could you imagine his pathing if he was a dragoon? XD

Ultimate, "Shitty Pathing" Dragoon ignores map terrain dealing 250 damage per shot for 10 seconds if they are in range of a target.

Also I look forward to a day where I don't face a Zarya in every QM, but she is pretty fantastic. I think that the Graviton Surge CD is a bit too long, 90 seconds, or 80 would be more appropriate considering it isn't a stun.

I've been using Expulsion Zone more often than not today to some effect.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
October 02 2016 01:39 GMT
#131
On October 02 2016 07:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2016 07:48 wongfeihung wrote:
On October 02 2016 03:21 Beelzebub1 wrote:
New hero should be Starcraft, theres still some really good iconic characters that they can put in.

I mean who doesn't want to play dragoon Phoenix? Or Duran?

I do

When I imagine Fenix, I think of him in his Zealot form. All Dragoons look the same, so I feel like it'd be a shame to put Fenix in that shell. That being said, the Zealot archetype already exists in HotS, so I almost feel like there's no room for Fenix, if not in his Dragoon form. And honestly, playing a Dragoon in HotS doesn't sound that fun to me.


Could you imagine his pathing if he was a dragoon? XD


I've literally seen Dragoons miss when shooting over open terrain. I have no explanation.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44254 Posts
October 02 2016 02:41 GMT
#132
On October 02 2016 10:39 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2016 07:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 02 2016 07:48 wongfeihung wrote:
On October 02 2016 03:21 Beelzebub1 wrote:
New hero should be Starcraft, theres still some really good iconic characters that they can put in.

I mean who doesn't want to play dragoon Phoenix? Or Duran?

I do

When I imagine Fenix, I think of him in his Zealot form. All Dragoons look the same, so I feel like it'd be a shame to put Fenix in that shell. That being said, the Zealot archetype already exists in HotS, so I almost feel like there's no room for Fenix, if not in his Dragoon form. And honestly, playing a Dragoon in HotS doesn't sound that fun to me.


Could you imagine his pathing if he was a dragoon? XD


I've literally seen Dragoons miss when shooting over open terrain. I have no explanation.


Phase Derpruptor?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 02 2016 06:56 GMT
#133
On October 02 2016 10:39 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2016 07:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 02 2016 07:48 wongfeihung wrote:
On October 02 2016 03:21 Beelzebub1 wrote:
New hero should be Starcraft, theres still some really good iconic characters that they can put in.

I mean who doesn't want to play dragoon Phoenix? Or Duran?

I do

When I imagine Fenix, I think of him in his Zealot form. All Dragoons look the same, so I feel like it'd be a shame to put Fenix in that shell. That being said, the Zealot archetype already exists in HotS, so I almost feel like there's no room for Fenix, if not in his Dragoon form. And honestly, playing a Dragoon in HotS doesn't sound that fun to me.


Could you imagine his pathing if he was a dragoon? XD


I've literally seen Dragoons miss when shooting over open terrain. I have no explanation.

trees
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
October 02 2016 22:33 GMT
#134
On October 02 2016 15:56 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2016 10:39 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On October 02 2016 07:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 02 2016 07:48 wongfeihung wrote:
On October 02 2016 03:21 Beelzebub1 wrote:
New hero should be Starcraft, theres still some really good iconic characters that they can put in.

I mean who doesn't want to play dragoon Phoenix? Or Duran?

I do

When I imagine Fenix, I think of him in his Zealot form. All Dragoons look the same, so I feel like it'd be a shame to put Fenix in that shell. That being said, the Zealot archetype already exists in HotS, so I almost feel like there's no room for Fenix, if not in his Dragoon form. And honestly, playing a Dragoon in HotS doesn't sound that fun to me.


Could you imagine his pathing if he was a dragoon? XD


I've literally seen Dragoons miss when shooting over open terrain. I have no explanation.

trees


I wish.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
October 03 2016 09:45 GMT
#135
On October 02 2016 10:39 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2016 07:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 02 2016 07:48 wongfeihung wrote:
On October 02 2016 03:21 Beelzebub1 wrote:
New hero should be Starcraft, theres still some really good iconic characters that they can put in.

I mean who doesn't want to play dragoon Phoenix? Or Duran?

I do

When I imagine Fenix, I think of him in his Zealot form. All Dragoons look the same, so I feel like it'd be a shame to put Fenix in that shell. That being said, the Zealot archetype already exists in HotS, so I almost feel like there's no room for Fenix, if not in his Dragoon form. And honestly, playing a Dragoon in HotS doesn't sound that fun to me.


Could you imagine his pathing if he was a dragoon? XD


I've literally seen Dragoons miss when shooting over open terrain. I have no explanation.


At least there are no stairs in hots for the dragoon to get stuck on.
Some times you just gotta wish...
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 03 2016 11:05 GMT
#136
Fenix will evolve after each death Templar->Dragoon->Immortal-> whatever these lotv fake templar where-> out of the match. Because you are feeding past 4 death in this game anyway.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 03 2016 12:45 GMT
#137
On October 03 2016 20:05 FeyFey wrote:
Fenix will evolve after each death Templar->Dragoon->Immortal-> whatever these lotv fake templar where-> out of the match. Because you are feeding past 4 death in this game anyway.

I actually kind of like the idea of deaths changing a character's kit in some way.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
October 03 2016 13:09 GMT
#138
Interesting idea, but I don't know how talents would work with multiple forms.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
October 03 2016 13:50 GMT
#139
Maybe this time around, this hero gets no talents at all.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 03 2016 14:32 GMT
#140
I imagine you'd have to tweak how their death counts as xp a la murky or vikings.
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