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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
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ptbl
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Slydie
1937 Posts
Maybe falcon, blackcorps and grandpkt wasn't the problem. Lucifron was caught out so many times. Vortix multi tasking with the vikings was pretty slow. His apm was not up to par. They just got 1st and 2nd in two pretty stacked tournaments with the new squad, which is an improvement from what the old one did in the end. Also, they went from being behind the meta, struggeling hard with multiple warrior comps, to defining it with introducing Thrall as a Morales counter and bruiser Karazim. The Duran brothers were pretty much 1 and 2 in Europe in SC2 for a while, so they know what it takes. TL is based around them. They did get to the finals by beating Dignitas, remember... | ||
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lestye
United States4208 Posts
On November 28 2015 09:20 ptbl wrote: 2nd is OK. It's not a championship, but it's not incredibly disappointing. So, Liquid failed to win a championship in csgo, heroes, and starcraft at winter. Man, what a disappointing showing. Liquid needs to pick up squads that are winners. We need to see some results. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On November 28 2015 09:25 ptbl wrote: Dreamhack use to be Liquid's turf. We had so many championships with Taeja and HerO. We had the Heroes squad win multiple titles. Lately, Liquid have been struggling at Dreamhacks to win titles. What happened to the winning tradition? I feel like Liquid as an organization is in a slump. You're even less funny than swag_bro | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Lucifron was not up to par that last series but that can happen, doesn't mean the player is crap instantly or something. Arguably falstad is also one of the best counters to abathur/vikings soaking capability. You can't just rely on checking the minimap to be safe, falstad can fly right on you and chase you with his higher movement, it's really one of the counters to those heroes. ETC being so popular is interesting to see, in a sense he is basically a kerrigan with better hitpoints. I found it curious though there wasn't a single stage dive. Mosh pit is obviously the better ult but there were games where every hero had a counter to moshpit and moshpit did absolutely nothing, it got only attempted once or twice and instantly interrupted. I see that there is value in purely the threat of it but not that much i'd say. Stage dive isn't great per se but is actually quite useful when it comes to those later situations where it's splitting up a lot of times. And from level 16 ETC can still do his old splitpush style that is actually even more effective then. Falstad being so popular was also a bit curious to me. The autoattack build on him is better now and basically the only choice as you can finally get the better hammer range AND seasoned marksman. A really curious case where by putting a talent from level 1 to level 4 he got better as the second best level 1 talent is better than his level 4 choices. I still don't see him being all that good to pick him so much, he's nice for gust of wind combo's and as a counter to aba/vikings but I found it a bit weird he was picked so early so much. 31 out of 36 games saw him contested while jaina only 20 games, I think it's mostly an europe thing i guess. Melee assassins are in sad state though. Warriors just do their role but better it seems. Looking at a brawler like illidan/butcher? just take sonya instead. A ganking hero like kerrigan? ETC (or mura) does that for you. Thrall was responsible for 7 out of the 9 melee assassin picks, he at least brings something unique to the table with his ranged poke. This class of heroes seems to similar I guess, where one of them sits on top (sonya this case) that pushes most others out. Some of the counters are also a bit too harsh, that 50% on reverberation from Mura is tough to deal with. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Wrong decision to play Vikings that late in the day Imo. That being said. It is nice to see that many games now at live events ... but they cramp them so much in one goes that you really notice extreme fatigue late in the day. | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On November 28 2015 09:25 ptbl wrote: Dreamhack use to be Liquid's turf. We had so many championships with Taeja and HerO. We had the Heroes squad win multiple titles. Lately, Liquid have been struggling at Dreamhacks to win titles. What happened to the winning tradition? I feel like Liquid as an organization is in a slump. We won Smash at least ^^. | ||
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