General Discussion October 6th Patch - Page 19

On October 30 2015 10:04 Cephiro wrote:
Can I ask where you're pulling off the 30-45% figures from? As far as I know, static charge is an additional 28.5+4.5 damage on top of the basic attack which is 32+6. The growth stays at 75%, and the initial damage (which becomes less and less of a factor) is almost 90% extra. So if anything, it improves your damage more early in the game than late in the game? (%-wise, of course not fixed numberwise)

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120 extra dmg per shot out of a 5000 is also 2.4%, not 0.02%... (Just getting confused as your values seem right but your percentages seem extremely off?)

I also still don't really understand why you value the archon/static charge combination so much. As mentioned before, at level 10 the only synergy between static charge and archon is the splash damage activating multiple charges at once (and to utilize that, you will need CC from your team to stack the enemies up, or to keep them in storm to refresh charges).

Wall on the other hand limits you to one target per auto attack, but it gives you additional CC to keep an enemy in storms with. I guess what I'm trying to say is that while it's often preferable to fully commit into a specific type of build, it's not always the case nor is there always a single best choice for a certain type of build.

As in, I personally see it's more like... Pick static charge -> Possibility of picking archon for a small extra synergy
But it seems you view it as Pick static charge only if going archon for the small extra synergy

While I agree that 560 point shield is a nice bit, you're never, ever going to get that off on everyone on your team. You'd require 25 seconds just for setting that up, and also for every member in your team avoiding damage for that duration of time. (Less for those who get shielded last.)

In high level games, some situations come down to seconds if not fractions of seconds. You can't rely on being able to having that extra shield to stack up on that often. Realistically even if you have good knowledge / vision of the enemy movements, you aren't going to be able to prepare for a teamfight that long. And while you talk about using the downtime, you naturally take damage as you do lesser objectives and push before the inevitable teamfight. As I mentioned before, I can realistically see having maybe 2 high-priority targets constantly shielded before teamfights happen if they don't get caught out.

You also have to think that khala's embrace in a sense can be outplayed. If the enemy team considers the extra 560p of shield too much of a threat, they can delay the engagement / diving in to your team, and just chip the damage off. Arguably due to the nature of damage/healing in the game, they will be able to chip the shields off faster than you can replenish them. In lower level games on the other hand even if you won't get focused as hard and the damage is more spread out, people won't be as good about keeping that extra shield up and running. But static charge isn't something you can really avoid. You try to avoid storms as is, but if you get hit you also take the stack. Which may force extra healing/shielding to be used and cause it to be on cooldown earlier than otherwise.

I do think both talents are very viable and have their place, but I don't think there's a clear cut superiority for one or the other except for specific situations. (For example in a dive-heavy composition, pre-stacking your diver with extra shields is very useful). I think it comes down to how you want to play your tassadar both as yourself, and as for what the team needs.

For me personally, I find static charge more useful in general, as I prefer the extra damage + the window of faster waveclear earlygame over the extra shielding lategame (also earlygame, but to an lesser extent due to the different nature of laning vs teamfighting as mentioned before). Also affected by the way I play tassadar (optimization-heavy, trying to focus on dealing damage / CCing or zoning the enemy team as much as possible until support is really needed), not to mention baiting players at low hp or with lower hp teammates is fun and then turning it around with shields + forcewall.

It has been an enjoyable discussion, though!

Czk/Sk Heroes of the Storm said...
"We would like to take this opportunity to invite the planned live broadcast, which will be held already next weekend, and under which, hopefully, will introduce two new maps, at least four new heroes, and many other improvements that you, the players, will be surely enjoy."

On October 31 2015 03:43 MotherFox wrote:
It's been announced there will be a reveal of two new maps and four new characters.



source https://www.facebook.com/heroesofthestormCZ/posts/663662963775047

On October 31 2015 04:52 MotherFox wrote:
I guess technically it would be the first warcraft map, as the current ones are meant to be generic maps.

On October 31 2015 04:45 KrytosSR wrote:
I'm hoping for some starcraft themed maps. The siege mercs could be a squad of marines and the bruiser could be a bunch of zealots with charge and the boss could be a giant ultralisk. There are lots of options for them really, but I really liked the themed merc camps from the diablo maps and hope to see more

On October 31 2015 04:12 Hier wrote:

Incoming that girl with the orange glasses from Overwatch. She seems to be one of the representative faces of the game, so why not.

Also hoping the new maps won't be stuffed with forced auto-triggered PvE fights. Those are so fun.

On October 30 2015 11:23 SC2John wrote:


My math is off. I think I'm still tired from yesterday.

In any case, I'm still not sure of the build, but I'm going to be playing a lot of Tass tonight to find out!

On October 31 2015 05:36 Fanatic-Templar wrote:


The problem with StarCraft maps is that there are three races and only two sides, so you can't as easily go Heaven/Hell and Alliance/Horde. Unless Legacy of the Void goes the direction I don't want it to, of course.