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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 13:52:14
April 22 2016 13:51 GMT
#1921
On April 21 2016 18:45 SC2Toastie wrote:
I can only play QM for now, but she is horror if your comp doesnt have long ranged CC or damage.


Story of every ranged autoattacker that there is. I would say Raynor, Valla and Falstad are even better, because they melt tanks instead of tickling them and they actually have good ults. I mean without CC or ranged damage, All those 3 heroes dance around you with their boosted movement speed.
In Tracers case its just that she does less, but is almost impossible to catch her. Helps that they release her into a Meta where she is pretty strong.

Got nothing to qq about heroes is awesome atm ~.~, just to hyped about the changes
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 22 2016 17:02 GMT
#1922
I need to just start playing Zeratul in every game. Every one of my games is stacked with precisely the type of retarded player that he annihilates.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 22 2016 17:59 GMT
#1923
I've started jotting down notes on whether my games turn into toxic unfun freak shows. Last night I played 9 games:

  • Two of the winning games featured no toxicity at all.
  • One of the winning games featured toxicity, which was dispelled when someone said "we're winning, so it's ok"
  • One of the winning games featured a toxic and trollish draft with someone hovering over nova/abba until the last moment. This is more important with bans, since our bans were made with these low-lane presence picks in mind. Then he switched to greymane last second. This game also featured lots of feeding in the early game, and we eked out a win due to a late-game enemy mistake.
  • A full FOUR of the five losing games featured a complete breakdown of the team and toxicity.
  • One losing game we just lost and no one said anything the entire game except for a "gg" at the end. This wasn't exactly a fun experience, but it was far preferable to my other losses.


Overall I think that if this rate holds true it confirms a lot of what we all know about maturity on the internet. =\ [and maybe highlights how impossible it is to have a fun night of heroes unless you just win every single game.]
Don't Panic
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 22 2016 21:01 GMT
#1924
12 deaths Kael blames our Rehgar/Tass comp for no dmg instead of rflecting upon how he was only 3rd highest dmg in the team. Depressing game where 1 potato dragged everyoen else down.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 21:22:02
April 22 2016 21:20 GMT
#1925
Matchmaking since last patch is fucking retarded. Every match I keep getting paired with people that are WAY lower in terms of skill, and best of all, most of them don't listen at all even when I try to be nice from the get go. But no, it's the usual "I'm the best no-one can know this game better" - attitude.

Idk if these people are that oblivious but if you make your own decisions and die every single time, and the one time they follow my call we get a teamwipe, maybe they should listen a bit more often.

If I know / notice someone is a clearly better shotcaller / player than I am, I shut up and let them lead. How hard is it when the skill difference couldn't be more obvious.

If I was really high MMR I'd understand not finding players of my level to match up with, but I'm not that high so it's extremely infuriating.

Example 1
Example 2

And I am NOT stacking with anyone, this is solo.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
April 22 2016 23:30 GMT
#1926
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS SHIT MM????????????
I get none-rank 1's like EVERY FUCKING GAME
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 23 2016 00:41 GMT
#1927
On April 23 2016 08:30 Foxxan wrote:
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS SHIT MM????????????
I get none-rank 1's like EVERY FUCKING GAME

I think like one of my past 10 games was all rank 1s. I've had a ton of platinum newbs in my games.
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
April 23 2016 09:41 GMT
#1928
Enemy tracer with abbatur hat on all game went 27-0. Good fun.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 12:34:48
April 23 2016 12:34 GMT
#1929
I think iam done with MM this time around, getting solo warriors(artanis) that goes dps talents and cant play properly just ruins the gameplay experience for me 100%.
Dunno wtf game i should play now, maybe some salty shit community counter strike... Damn the internet is just rubbish.

Or maybe some poor QM.. Hm i dont know.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
April 23 2016 14:23 GMT
#1930
Yup my Tracer is still cursed. Not a single victory with her since I got her.
Every single time same story where the enemy team has CC and damage and we have neither.
Got a horrible Vikings and Rehgar and an Illidan and Tassadar versus a team with a brain.
Sigh. Maybe Tracer is just horrible solo QM?
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Khalum
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria831 Posts
April 23 2016 14:42 GMT
#1931
She's really niche imo. With cc you can completely shut her down. I also win more vs her than I lose in QM, playing mostly Brightwing. So it's probably a bit of a gamble to pick her in QM.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 23 2016 21:34 GMT
#1932
On April 23 2016 02:59 MotherFox wrote:
I've started jotting down notes on whether my games turn into toxic unfun freak shows. Last night I played 9 games:

  • Two of the winning games featured no toxicity at all.
  • One of the winning games featured toxicity, which was dispelled when someone said "we're winning, so it's ok"
  • One of the winning games featured a toxic and trollish draft with someone hovering over nova/abba until the last moment. This is more important with bans, since our bans were made with these low-lane presence picks in mind. Then he switched to greymane last second. This game also featured lots of feeding in the early game, and we eked out a win due to a late-game enemy mistake.
  • A full FOUR of the five losing games featured a complete breakdown of the team and toxicity.
  • One losing game we just lost and no one said anything the entire game except for a "gg" at the end. This wasn't exactly a fun experience, but it was far preferable to my other losses.


Overall I think that if this rate holds true it confirms a lot of what we all know about maturity on the internet. =\ [and maybe highlights how impossible it is to have a fun night of heroes unless you just win every single game.]

Weekend + Holiday.

This community has two extremely different sets of players.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 23 2016 21:39 GMT
#1933
Also Reddit is giving me cancer. Is there no nice, active Heroes community outside of that pathetic shithole?
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 23 2016 23:42 GMT
#1934
On April 23 2016 23:42 Khalum wrote:
She's really niche imo. With cc you can completely shut her down. I also win more vs her than I lose in QM, playing mostly Brightwing. So it's probably a bit of a gamble to pick her in QM.

QM is full of players that are quite clueless. Tracer is way too good right now, nowhere niche if player knows how to play her, but most of them sucks on the most straight-forward heroes, let alone on high skill cap hero such as Tracer.

I mean not a week has passed since her release and she is #1 on hotslogs. Yeah CC like Polymorph shuts her down, but how many targeted CCs like that are there in Hots? Not so many, mostly are skill shots and it is really easy to evade any kind of skill shot with her.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 17:11:53
April 24 2016 16:35 GMT
#1935
first pick Zagara on BoE, come back to Tychus/Malfurion/Arthas/Valla vs an Illidan team

jesus mother fucking piece of christ

edit: next game all thrown by a retard tyrande who prefers getting seeds at lv 25 instead of "chasing" (kekek guaranteed kill) Muradin
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-24 17:36:23
April 24 2016 17:27 GMT
#1936
On April 24 2016 08:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 23:42 Khalum wrote:
She's really niche imo. With cc you can completely shut her down. I also win more vs her than I lose in QM, playing mostly Brightwing. So it's probably a bit of a gamble to pick her in QM.

I mean not a week has passed since her release and she is #1 on hotslogs. Yeah CC like Polymorph shuts her down, but how many targeted CCs like that are there in Hots? Not so many, mostly are skill shots and it is really easy to evade any kind of skill shot with her.

Yeah at first I thought she's not especially strong but it's hard to argue in the face of the hotslogs stats. One thing to consider is that she's easier to learn to play than to learn to play against. Or maybe she just happens to be good against the team comps and play styles that people like to play in HL atm. I kinda think of her like a better form of Zeratul. Longer cooldown on Recall than Blink and worse wave clear and no team fight ult, but she's not limited by mana and has a form of safe light harass when melee range is too dangerous, and has better mobility when E is on cooldown.

On April 25 2016 01:35 Ej_ wrote:
edit: next game all thrown by a retard tyrande who prefers getting seeds at lv 25 instead of "chasing" (kekek guaranteed kill) Muradin

It blew my mind when I realized people actually have a policy of "never chase." I like to chase when I'm uncertain of the result because I don't know the game perfectly and I don't know if something is possible until I try. Too many times I've watched someone else go for something thinking they're making a mistake, and then they succeed (and not due to opponent error), and I'm just like "Wow, I know nothing." So I like seeing what's possible. And some people are actually the opposite. They habitually do not chase and do not go for kills and do not do anything that seems risky at all, even though it's plausible, and so they're actually completely ignorant when it comes to making judgment calls, having gathered no experience themselves about the options, and yet they then speak the loudest about what the right call is. Really frustrating. I don't want notes on my play from someone who has settled for being mediocre.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 24 2016 18:11 GMT
#1937
[20:10:39] <Ej> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
[20:10:45] <Ej> 23 to 3 on ToD
[20:10:48] <Ej> ofc retard illidan
[20:10:52] <Ej> loses us the game :DDDDDDD
[20:10:58] <Ej> 1v5 dives every gfwDGfgw cwvDFXCKKCING MOMENT

IM FUCKING DONE FUCKING HOLY SHIT, ALL OF YOU ILLIDAN PLAYUERS ARE FUCKING WORHTLESS PIECES OF SHIT UN FUCKIGN INSTALL THE GAME
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 24 2016 18:12 GMT
#1938
I'm looking forward to playing Overwatch because I know that I'll be far less aware of the dumb things that my teammates do there than in HotS. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 24 2016 19:20 GMT
#1939
yeah thats what I like about Overwatch. But you still see kill feeds ~.~. See your team pushing over a bridge, while enemy has phara + dbl lucio. See 4 have fallen to their death in kill feed...
Roadhog ult back capping is OP though, so you don't need a team. But you are reliant on your team at higher level in Overwatch, the solo heroes can only bring you so far.... Well right now they bring you to legend since its just a stupid grind.

The never chase policy is not as bad as the never hit the tank policy -.- . Especially if that person is playing a Tychus.

And wow Tracer really on top of Hotslog, people really have no idea how to pick in HL then, just go blindly by the meta and play like you are used to...
Well in QM she is just a old Nova with the best escape in the game instead of cloak. So every game without a Tracer mirror will be a tracer win, while the supports end up in support + tank games.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 24 2016 19:33 GMT
#1940
On April 25 2016 04:20 FeyFey wrote:
yeah thats what I like about Overwatch. But you still see kill feeds ~.~. See your team pushing over a bridge, while enemy has phara + dbl lucio. See 4 have fallen to their death in kill feed...
Roadhog ult back capping is OP though, so you don't need a team. But you are reliant on your team at higher level in Overwatch, the solo heroes can only bring you so far.... Well right now they bring you to legend since its just a stupid grind.

The never chase policy is not as bad as the never hit the tank policy -.- . Especially if that person is playing a Tychus.

And wow Tracer really on top of Hotslog, people really have no idea how to pick in HL then, just go blindly by the meta and play like you are used to...
Well in QM she is just a old Nova with the best escape in the game instead of cloak. So every game without a Tracer mirror will be a tracer win, while the supports end up in support + tank games.

Well, part of it is that I know that I'm going to suck at Overwatch for a while, so I really won't know what's going wrong.
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